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lakers fans,
what happens more often?
kobe shoots the lakers from a 4 point deficit into a 12 point one because of his god complex forcing shots into double teams and taking tough fadeaways
or
kobe shoots the lakers from a 12 point deficit into a 4 point one because he has a four or five minute stretch where he plays like god and makes shots over double teams in the lane and tough fadeaways on the perimeter
what happens more often?
kobe shoots the lakers from a 4 point deficit into a 12 point one because of his god complex forcing shots into double teams and taking tough fadeaways
or
kobe shoots the lakers from a 12 point deficit into a 4 point one because he has a four or five minute stretch where he plays like god and makes shots over double teams in the lane and tough fadeaways on the perimeter
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NEW ORLEANS -- Frustrated after watching his team bungle a 10-point advantage heading into the fourth quarter and then spit up a seven-point lead with 1:13 to go courtesy of multiple errors, Dallas Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle pulled no punches, and perhaps even dropped one on his club below the belt.
"Soft," Carlisle said of his team after a disappointing 93-92 loss to a slumping New Orleans Hornets team that kept pushing even without its concussed floor leader, Chris Paul.
"Yeah," the coach reiterated, "soft."
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Who said that? I'm not soft, not me. I don't know where that comes from, but we ain't soft. We have to see how he meant soft in that aspect, but I know he wasn't talking to me personally or any of my teammates because I don't think none of these guys are soft.
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-- Mavericks guard Jason Terry
That description touched a nerve in an otherwise quiet Mavs locker room, which was likely Carlisle's intent after a second loss in three games in which Dallas blew double-digit, second-half leads.
The Mavericks have a half-game lead on the Los Angeles Lakers for the No. 2 seed in the Western Conference heading into Thursday's home game against the New York Knicks.
"I wouldn't go that far," said center Tyson Chandler, who returned from a sprained right ankle and recorded his 17th double-double with 16 points and 13 rebounds. His only blemish was clanking two free throws with 17.7 seconds left that kept the Mavericks' margin at two, 92-90.
"Who said that?" Jason Terry said, scoffing at the accusation after he had an off night -- rare for him of late -- with 10 points. "I'm not soft, not me. I don't know where that comes from, but we ain't soft. We have to see how he meant soft in that aspect, but I know he wasn't talking to me personally or any of my teammates because I don't think none of these guys are soft."
What chafed Carlisle was a rebounding total that had the Mavs on the wrong end, 44-31, and a devastating 24-11 deficit in the second half that included no offensive boards, meaning no second possessions, not a single tip-in or tip-out. Although Chandler secured 13 rebounds, the other nine who played totaled 18.
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"I think we've just got to be tougher," Carlisle said quietly. "Got to be tougher."
Carlisle didn't think his team played tough enough in a third highly physical matchup with the Hornets every time it extended the lead -- to 70-60 after three quarters; to 76-65 with 8:22 to play; to 82-73 with 4:35 to go; to 89-81 with 2:26 left; and finally to 92-85 with 1:13 to go.
"When you have a seven-point lead with 1:13 to go, you've got to finish it off by making the plays," Carlisle said. "Credit them for making plays, and we did not."
Chandler missed two free throws in the final minute to set up Jarrett Jack's final three free throws, thanks to an uncharacteristic foul by Jason Kidd behind the arc with 8.4 seconds to play.
Terry took exception to the foul call on Jack, who started in place of Paul and finished with 21 points, seven assists and six rebounds.
"I don't know if Jarrett Jack gets that call," Terry said. "We know Kevin Durant does. You know Kobe may get it. But I don't know about Jarrett Jack. That's just my personal opinion. So we've got to live with it, take it on the chin and go ahead and get ready to get this next one."
Kidd, who struggled for three points on 0-of-7 shooting with seven assists, wasn't as dismayed by the call as Terry.
"I felt that he was going to shoot the 3 ... He did a good job of drawing the foul," Kidd said. "As a defender you don't think you fouled, but they called it and it was a smart foul on his part."
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NEW ORLEANS -- Frustrated after watching his team bungle a 10-point advantage heading into the fourth quarter and then spit up a seven-point lead with 1:13 to go courtesy of multiple errors, Dallas Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle pulled no punches, and perhaps even dropped one on his club below the belt.
"Soft," Carlisle said of his team after a disappointing 93-92 loss to a slumping New Orleans Hornets team that kept pushing even without its concussed floor leader, Chris Paul.
"Yeah," the coach reiterated, "soft."
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Who said that? I'm not soft, not me. I don't know where that comes from, but we ain't soft. We have to see how he meant soft in that aspect, but I know he wasn't talking to me personally or any of my teammates because I don't think none of these guys are soft.
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-- Mavericks guard Jason Terry
That description touched a nerve in an otherwise quiet Mavs locker room, which was likely Carlisle's intent after a second loss in three games in which Dallas blew double-digit, second-half leads.
The Mavericks have a half-game lead on the Los Angeles Lakers for the No. 2 seed in the Western Conference heading into Thursday's home game against the New York Knicks.
"I wouldn't go that far," said center Tyson Chandler, who returned from a sprained right ankle and recorded his 17th double-double with 16 points and 13 rebounds. His only blemish was clanking two free throws with 17.7 seconds left that kept the Mavericks' margin at two, 92-90.
"Who said that?" Jason Terry said, scoffing at the accusation after he had an off night -- rare for him of late -- with 10 points. "I'm not soft, not me. I don't know where that comes from, but we ain't soft. We have to see how he meant soft in that aspect, but I know he wasn't talking to me personally or any of my teammates because I don't think none of these guys are soft."
What chafed Carlisle was a rebounding total that had the Mavs on the wrong end, 44-31, and a devastating 24-11 deficit in the second half that included no offensive boards, meaning no second possessions, not a single tip-in or tip-out. Although Chandler secured 13 rebounds, the other nine who played totaled 18.
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"I think we've just got to be tougher," Carlisle said quietly. "Got to be tougher."
Carlisle didn't think his team played tough enough in a third highly physical matchup with the Hornets every time it extended the lead -- to 70-60 after three quarters; to 76-65 with 8:22 to play; to 82-73 with 4:35 to go; to 89-81 with 2:26 left; and finally to 92-85 with 1:13 to go.
"When you have a seven-point lead with 1:13 to go, you've got to finish it off by making the plays," Carlisle said. "Credit them for making plays, and we did not."
Chandler missed two free throws in the final minute to set up Jarrett Jack's final three free throws, thanks to an uncharacteristic foul by Jason Kidd behind the arc with 8.4 seconds to play.
Terry took exception to the foul call on Jack, who started in place of Paul and finished with 21 points, seven assists and six rebounds.
"I don't know if Jarrett Jack gets that call," Terry said. "We know Kevin Durant does. You know Kobe may get it. But I don't know about Jarrett Jack. That's just my personal opinion. So we've got to live with it, take it on the chin and go ahead and get ready to get this next one."
Kidd, who struggled for three points on 0-of-7 shooting with seven assists, wasn't as dismayed by the call as Terry.
"I felt that he was going to shoot the 3 ... He did a good job of drawing the foul," Kidd said. "As a defender you don't think you fouled, but they called it and it was a smart foul on his part."
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Depends more on the variables, like who they are playing, what motivation Kobe has going into the game (which factors into how much he is going to force the issue), who is guarding Kobe (how big they are being a huge factor, if Kobe feels like he has a smaller player on him he will demand the ball in the post), if it's the second night of a back to back because yeah, he's getting up there in years, Kobe's only averages 33 mins/a g this year, his least in 13 years, but at the end of the day he is still a 46% shooter which is not great, but not that bad either. it evens out.Reason wrote:lakers fans,
what happens more often?
kobe shoots the lakers from a 4 point deficit into a 12 point one because of his god complex forcing shots into double teams and taking tough fadeaways
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kobe shoots the lakers from a 12 point deficit into a 4 point one because he has a four or five minute stretch where he plays like god and makes shots over double teams in the lane and tough fadeaways on the perimeter
In a dream world Gasol would have Kobe's heart/determination because a lot of times he has the bigger mismatch, and Kobe would have Gasol's unselfishness, because he really is a gifted passer.
Take tonight for example, a smart Kobe should see the match up and feed the post all night instead of getting caught up in any personal duels with Wade/Bron, but will that actually happen....
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It's gotta be the latter.Reason wrote:lakers fans,
what happens more often?
kobe shoots the lakers from a 4 point deficit into a 12 point one because of his god complex forcing shots into double teams and taking tough fadeaways
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kobe shoots the lakers from a 12 point deficit into a 4 point one because he has a four or five minute stretch where he plays like god and makes shots over double teams in the lane and tough fadeaways on the perimeter
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