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Sports Book I Enjoyed thread (no bodog)
This is NOT the thread you talk about spreads and teasers (no ). This IS the thread you talk about reading (no ). I know there's a similar thread in CYE, but over there they discussin Dickens (yes ). Lets use this thread to talk about books with pages dedicated solely to balls.
I'll go first...
The story of California grassroots basketball. An amazing read. It opens with coach Joe Keller's ill-fated effort to recruit a young Tyson Chandler to his AAU team. In an attempt to fill the void of having a future star ripped away by the head of a bigger program, Keller turns his attention to another up-and-comer named Demetrius Walker. The issue is that Walker is only in about 6th grade at the time that Keller decides to hitch his wagon to him. The author then follows the lives of both for the next decade or so. Keller preys on his personal relationship with the young star to gain clout within the grassroots bball world, while Demetrius struggles with the expectations to become the next LeBron. And as Keller shops himself and his vision of developing adolescent prospect camps to Nike and adidas for big bucks, Walker is left to deal with the trappings of early fame by himself.
It's a really compelling topic, which is enhanced by the way it is told. The author does a good job of offering a pretty candid view of the grassroots bball world, although one could argue he's a bit too cynical. The amount of research that went into this is stunning. It's similar in some ways to an updated version of Hoop Dreams. Especially in how the story teller is able to illustrate the intimate details of the personal lives of his subjects through the lens of basketball. And the story is especially relevant now because many of the players addressed in it are currently in playing at major college basketball programs, or the NBA. Regardless, its a highly recommended read for any basketball porn addict.
Anyone else read this? Any feedback?
Or have another book you would recommend people read? Or something you've read that people should stay away from? Chop it up.
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I'll go first...
The story of California grassroots basketball. An amazing read. It opens with coach Joe Keller's ill-fated effort to recruit a young Tyson Chandler to his AAU team. In an attempt to fill the void of having a future star ripped away by the head of a bigger program, Keller turns his attention to another up-and-comer named Demetrius Walker. The issue is that Walker is only in about 6th grade at the time that Keller decides to hitch his wagon to him. The author then follows the lives of both for the next decade or so. Keller preys on his personal relationship with the young star to gain clout within the grassroots bball world, while Demetrius struggles with the expectations to become the next LeBron. And as Keller shops himself and his vision of developing adolescent prospect camps to Nike and adidas for big bucks, Walker is left to deal with the trappings of early fame by himself.
It's a really compelling topic, which is enhanced by the way it is told. The author does a good job of offering a pretty candid view of the grassroots bball world, although one could argue he's a bit too cynical. The amount of research that went into this is stunning. It's similar in some ways to an updated version of Hoop Dreams. Especially in how the story teller is able to illustrate the intimate details of the personal lives of his subjects through the lens of basketball. And the story is especially relevant now because many of the players addressed in it are currently in playing at major college basketball programs, or the NBA. Regardless, its a highly recommended read for any basketball porn addict.
Anyone else read this? Any feedback?
Or have another book you would recommend people read? Or something you've read that people should stay away from? Chop it up.
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Best sports book I ever read. Opened my eyes to what Don King, and boxing in general, is really about. I knew it was dirty, but not this dirty. Like the book above, the amount of research that was done is crazy.
Best sports book I ever read. Opened my eyes to what Don King, and boxing in general, is really about. I knew it was dirty, but not this dirty. Like the book above, the amount of research that was done is crazy.
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It really is a great book. Halberstam's writing truly captures the ups and downs and the players' mentalities from that Blazer squad.peanut butter wrote:I was looking for Breaks Of The Game when I found PTHO. Gonna read that next.
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That book you posted looks excellent. I shall mos def grab that as well. nh.
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Just bought this as my first book on my iPad. Good looks.naturalborn103 wrote:http://www.philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118572
Best sports book I ever read. Opened my eyes to what Don King, and boxing in general, is really about. I knew it was dirty, but not this dirty. Like the book above, the amount of research that was done is crazy.
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Word.. Let me know what you think of it. Some of it is pretty depressing.peanut butter wrote:Just bought this as my first book on my iPad. Good looks.naturalborn103 wrote:http://www.philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118572
Best sports book I ever read. Opened my eyes to what Don King, and boxing in general, is really about. I knew it was dirty, but not this dirty. Like the book above, the amount of research that was done is crazy.
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Definitely will do.naturalborn103 wrote:Word.. Let me know what you think of it. Some of it is pretty depressing.peanut butter wrote:Just bought this as my first book on my iPad. Good looks.naturalborn103 wrote:http://www.philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118572
Best sports book I ever read. Opened my eyes to what Don King, and boxing in general, is really about. I knew it was dirty, but not this dirty. Like the book above, the amount of research that was done is crazy.
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At the library today, I also picked up this...
Goldman is the author/screenwriter who wrote Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid, Princess Bride and Marathon Man and also converted a bunch of other shit like All The Presidents Men and Maverick from other texts into movie scripts. And Lupica is a known fagg.
Book looks pretty stupid, but I'll give it a shot off the strength of the resumes of those involved.
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i dont read too many books...but this looks like something i would love to read. good call NB.peanut butter wrote:Just bought this as my first book on my iPad. Good looks.naturalborn103 wrote:http://www.philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118572
Best sports book I ever read. Opened my eyes to what Don King, and boxing in general, is really about. I knew it was dirty, but not this dirty. Like the book above, the amount of research that was done is crazy.
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The Sam Smith book is pretty much a behind the scene of the Bulls 1990-1991 season, their first championship run. A really interesting and sometime funny look at how the players and coaches interact with each other, like these little gems:peanut butter wrote:Almost picked this up yesterday. There's also a Jordan book by Halberstam. Can you tell me more about the one with Sam Smith, and why I should get it? And do you know anything about the Halberstam book?Apathwhy wrote:
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"Barkley, who doesn't own an unexpressed thoughts...angered women's groups for saying, after a loss, that it was the kind of game after which you go home and beat your wife."
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"Sometimes the coaches worried that the Bulls were too loose. They were young and liked to joke with one another. They teased about everything from girlfriends and wives to their long noses and funny ears with an often roguish insouciance. Before the New York game earlier in the month, Jordan, Pippen, and Grant, all of whom had boys under three at the time, had debated for a half hour about whose child had the biggest penis. They eventually agreed it was Pippen's"
I haven't read the other book, but reading the Amazon reviews for both will give you a better synopsis than anything I can provide.
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You start reading this yet?peanut butter wrote:Just bought this as my first book on my iPad. Good looks.naturalborn103 wrote:http://www.philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118572
Best sports book I ever read. Opened my eyes to what Don King, and boxing in general, is really about. I knew it was dirty, but not this dirty. Like the book above, the amount of research that was done is crazy.
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Yeah. Just a chapter in. I'm readin a couple other things right now that I want to finish up first before I totally get immersed in this. But I can tell after just the first 20 pages or so that I'm gonna love it. Once I really sink my teeth in, I'll share some thoughts.naturalborn103 wrote:You start reading this yet?peanut butter wrote:Just bought this as my first book on my iPad. Good looks.naturalborn103 wrote:http://www.philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118572
Best sports book I ever read. Opened my eyes to what Don King, and boxing in general, is really about. I knew it was dirty, but not this dirty. Like the book above, the amount of research that was done is crazy.
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So I picked this up the other day while I was killing time in a bookstore got hooked instantly. Its so good that I put everything else aside and am jamming through it. Fantastic retelling of a story thats been told a million times the same way. Halberstam not only follows the arc of Jordan's career from the beginning, but also takes time to examine the impact his rise had on spread of commercialism. I was a little surprised by just how compassionate of a character Jordan is portrayed as. But Halberstam manages to give fair play to the flaws in Michael's character too. The book also delves into the personality of Phil Jackson, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman and the other cast of characters on those Bulls teams. Also Jerry Krause is pretty much made to look like story's the antagonist over the duration of the team's championship run. Pretty fun to get the scoop on just how much everyone hated that guy.
And it hit me today randomly while reading that Lamar Odom is the second coming of Toni Kukoc. Not Pippen, as some have suggested. There's a lot that goes into the comparison, but in the simplest terms, if you match Kukoc up along side Odom the similarities are striking.
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A few basketball books I've read and enjoyed over the years.
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I finally got around to reading this. Great book and very easy read, but I felt like the author made things a little too black and white sometimes. He hated some people and loved others, there was not much in between. Still, great read and pretty eye opening.peanut butter wrote:This is NOT the thread you talk about spreads and teasers (no ). This IS the thread you talk about reading (no ). I know there's a similar thread in CYE, but over there they discussin Dickens (yes ). Lets use this thread to talk about books with pages dedicated solely to balls.
I'll go first...
The story of California grassroots basketball. An amazing read. It opens with coach Joe Keller's ill-fated effort to recruit a young Tyson Chandler to his AAU team. In an attempt to fill the void of having a future star ripped away by the head of a bigger program, Keller turns his attention to another up-and-comer named Demetrius Walker. The issue is that Walker is only in about 6th grade at the time that Keller decides to hitch his wagon to him. The author then follows the lives of both for the next decade or so. Keller preys on his personal relationship with the young star to gain clout within the grassroots bball world, while Demetrius struggles with the expectations to become the next LeBron. And as Keller shops himself and his vision of developing adolescent prospect camps to Nike and adidas for big bucks, Walker is left to deal with the trappings of early fame by himself.
It's a really compelling topic, which is enhanced by the way it is told. The author does a good job of offering a pretty candid view of the grassroots bball world, although one could argue he's a bit too cynical. The amount of research that went into this is stunning. It's similar in some ways to an updated version of Hoop Dreams. Especially in how the story teller is able to illustrate the intimate details of the personal lives of his subjects through the lens of basketball. And the story is especially relevant now because many of the players addressed in it are currently in playing at major college basketball programs, or the NBA. Regardless, its a highly recommended read for any basketball porn addict.
Anyone else read this? Any feedback?
Or have another book you would recommend people read? Or something you've read that people should stay away from? Chop it up.
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Next up is either breaks of the game or jordan rules.
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I agree with your critique of the book. He clearly plays favorites with the characters, which influences the way he tells the story. But in fairness, he spent like 8-10 years reporting this. It would be impossible for anyone to spend that much time with a group of people, especially vulnerable kids and conniving adults, without developing bias. I just wish who he favors/dislikes wasn't so apparent in his writing.
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Yea. He didn't need to put his opinion in those parts. I would of probably of came to the same conclusion myself if he just told the facts. He also sounded kinda dumb talking about Rome (I think it was Rome) and acting like smoking weed was ruining his life.
Looking everyone up now seem like they all doing okay. Demetrius got his degree, but just transferred after being kicked off basketball team cause he still has one year left of eligibility. Justin Hawkins got his degree in 3 years and is going to graduate school. Aaron Moore playing at D1 school and looks like his doing okay. Roberto Nelson also looks like he is doing pretty good at Oregon State and never transferred.
Looking everyone up now seem like they all doing okay. Demetrius got his degree, but just transferred after being kicked off basketball team cause he still has one year left of eligibility. Justin Hawkins got his degree in 3 years and is going to graduate school. Aaron Moore playing at D1 school and looks like his doing okay. Roberto Nelson also looks like he is doing pretty good at Oregon State and never transferred.
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Yea I keep an eye on all those guys and what they've been up to. Tournament time the past couple years has been pretty interesting because a lot of the players from the book were on competitive teams. GD does periodic updates on the book's web site about whats going on with some of the main characters too. There's an interesting follow up story that a local Oregon newspaper did about Roberto and his dad in prison. Ultimately though, looks like the real winner in the game of life is going to turn out to be Keller.
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I feel like "Kareem" is the best basketball autobiography that I have ever read. It's a diary of his 20th and final season in the NBA. You know the whole "announcing my retirement a year early so I can do a victory lap" thing that Mo Rivera and Jeter are doing now? I'm 95% sure Kareem started that trend. But the book is just really interesting overall.