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peanut butter wrote:Yes, as a defender. His offensive skills progressed pretty substantially last year too. There's no telling how he returns from the injury (no DRose), but all things equal, I do expect him to develop into one of the best players to come out of this draft. And assuming Cleveland keeps the pick, I don't know who they would take ahead of him. I suppose McLemore, but he's blocked already by Waiters.



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naturalborn103 wrote:

peanut butter wrote:Yes, as a defender. His offensive skills progressed pretty substantially last year too. There's no telling how he returns from the injury (no DRose), but all things equal, I do expect him to develop into one of the best players to come out of this draft. And assuming Cleveland keeps the pick, I don't know who they would take ahead of him. I suppose McLemore, but he's blocked already by Waiters.



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As long as his body can fill out I don't see why he can't be one of the better defending big men in the league. I read something a while ago that said people recovering at young age from ACL tears can usually get to pre-injury form much much easier. And yea, if Clevland keeps the pick it would be crazy of them to pick anyone outside of Noel. He is exactly what they need and most likely will be best player from the draft.

Big Breeze wrote:

naturalborn103 wrote:

peanut butter wrote:Yes, as a defender. His offensive skills progressed pretty substantially last year too. There's no telling how he returns from the injury (no DRose), but all things equal, I do expect him to develop into one of the best players to come out of this draft. And assuming Cleveland keeps the pick, I don't know who they would take ahead of him. I suppose McLemore, but he's blocked already by Waiters.



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As long as his body can fill out I don't see why he can't be one of the better defending big men in the league. I read something a while ago that said people recovering at young age from ACL tears can usually get to pre-injury form much much easier. And yea, if Clevland keeps the pick it would be crazy of them to pick anyone outside of Noel. He is exactly what they need and most likely will be best player from the draft.

to both of you. Offensive skills progressed? Really? If he's not dunking, he has a weak ass jump hook that is not consistent or automatic at all.

Trust me when I say this, but he will not be the best player in this draft. I'm not enamored with his abilities at all. He'll be lucky if he winds up as a poor version of Marcus Camby. I see bust written all over him like Tyrus Thomas.

peanut butter wrote:

Big Breeze wrote:

naturalborn103 wrote:

peanut butter wrote:Yes, as a defender. His offensive skills progressed pretty substantially last year too. There's no telling how he returns from the injury (no DRose), but all things equal, I do expect him to develop into one of the best players to come out of this draft. And assuming Cleveland keeps the pick, I don't know who they would take ahead of him. I suppose McLemore, but he's blocked already by Waiters.



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As long as his body can fill out I don't see why he can't be one of the better defending big men in the league. I read something a while ago that said people recovering at young age from ACL tears can usually get to pre-injury form much much easier. And yea, if Clevland keeps the pick it would be crazy of them to pick anyone outside of Noel. He is exactly what they need and most likely will be best player from the draft.

to both of you. Offensive skills progressed? Really? If he's not dunking, he has a weak ass jump hook that is not consistent or automatic at all.

Trust me when I say this, but he will not be the best player in this draft. I'm not enamored with his abilities at all. He'll be lucky if he winds up as a poor version of Marcus Camby. I see bust written all over him like Tyrus Thomas.

I say he was progressing, but thats in the context of where he began. So he went from nothing to atleast resembling something. But there's no doubt he's raw as fuck, and the way the league is now, I dont ever expect him to become a guy who can catch it down low with his back to the basket and score.

I also dont think he will be the best player in the draft, because I like the best wings (McLemore, Porter and Oladipo) a considerable amount more. But I do think he can last in the league, at worst as a guy who just makes his name as a defender/rebounder. At the very least I can see him becoming someone like DeAndre Jordan, which I guess in today's league is a guy worth about $10 million/year.



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http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2013/

1 Cavaliers Nerlens Noel C Kentucky, Freshman
2 Magic Ben McLemore SG Kansas, Freshman
3 Wizards Otto Porter SF Georgetown, Sophomore
4 Bobcats Alex Len C Maryland, Sophomore
5 Suns Victor Oladipo SG Indiana, Junior
6 Hornets Anthony Bennett PF UNLV, Freshman
7 Kings Trey Burke PG Michigan, Sophomore
8 Pistons C.J. McCollum PG/SG Lehigh, Senior
9 Timberwolves Shabazz Muhammad SF UCLA, Freshman
10 Trailblazers Steven Adams C Pittsburgh, Freshman
11 76ers Cody Zeller PF/C Indiana, Sophomore
12 Thunder Kelly Olynyk C Gonzaga, Junior
13 Mavericks Michael Carter-Williams PG Syracuse, Sophomore
14 Jazz Shane Larkin PG Miami FL, Sophomore
15 Bucks Dennis Schroeder PG Braunschweig, International
16 Celtics Rudy Gobert C Cholet, International
17 Hawks Mason Plumlee C Duke, Senior
18 Hawks Jamaal Franklin SG San Diego State, Junior
19 Cavaliers Kentavious Caldwell-Pope SG Georgia, Sophomore
20 Bulls Gorgui Dieng C Louisville, Junior
21 Jazz Dario Saric SF Cibona Zagreb, International
22 Nets Allen Crabbe SG California, Junior
23 Pacers Reggie Bullock SF North Carolina, Junior
24 Knicks Tony Mitchell PF North Texas, Sophomore
25 Clippers Tim Hardaway Jr SG Michigan, Junior
26 Timberwolves Sergey Karasev SF Triumph Moscow, International
27 Nuggets Lucas Nogueira C Estudiantes, International
28 Spurs Jeff Withey C Kansas, Senior
29 Thunder Giannis Adetokunbo SF Filathlitikos, International
30 Heat Tony Snell SF New Mexico, Junior

peanut butter wrote:For those who dont like Noel at the #1, what alternative do you propose for the Cavs?



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Big Breeze wrote:

peanut butter wrote:For those who dont like Noel at the #1, what alternative do you propose for the Cavs?



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I like Anthony Bennett as one of the few players from this draft that has star potential. I've seen his development at Findlay Prep as a junior to his solid freshman season at UNLV. I see him as a cross between Grand-ma-ma and Elton Brand. If he wasn't currently injured, he'd go higher than where he's projected to go. If he was 6-10, we wouldn't be talking about Noel as the number one overall pick.

Lateral speed on the wing and length to guard the post are a couple of his weaknesses, but offensively, he's going to get his with a smooth inside/outside game.

With Irving, Waiters, and Bennett, that would be a nice young triumvirate to work with, but it ain't gonna come to fruition.

Gregg Popabitch wrote:I'm not a fan of Trey Burke at the next level. I don't understand how he's getting top 5 love. Probably because this draft isn't that good.

Reason wrote:

Gregg Popabitch wrote:I'm not a fan of Trey Burke at the next level. I don't understand how he's getting top 5 love. Probably because this draft isn't that good.

this. doubt his career will be much better than jarret jack's. can easily see mccollum and mcw having better careers

Big Breeze wrote:I once said that Trey Burke has DJ Augustin-like potential. I could see him as a starter at first and then as someone who ends up as a career backup.


This draft is dreadful.

Big Breeze wrote:I'm not feeling Bazz Muhammad at all on the next level. He can't dribble well, doesn't go right at all, and most of all, he doesn't pass the rock. Muhammad's play at UCLA scream that he's not a good teammate and that he won't make your squad better. Strong possibility he'll be screaming at Israeli Jews to pass him the ball for Maccabi Tel Aviv in a few years.

TeenageMoustache wrote:I got my first honest to God scoop today. Not very compelling, but Brian Shaw will be the Clippers next head coach.