2014-15 MLB Offseason Thread
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No team was singled out more often by our sources as stubborn nonbelievers in analytics. Thanks to Bill James and generations of sabermetricians, baseball is further down the analytics road than the other major sports -- which means the Phillies are further behind than any other team in sports.
In 2010, GM Ruben Amaro boasted, "We don't have an in-house stats guy, and I kind of feel we never will. We're not a statistics-driven organization by any means."
Shortly after, Amaro signed slugging first baseman Ryan Howard -- already under contract for the next two years -- to a five-year, $125 million extension covering his age 32 through 36 seasons. Howard was coming off of his fourth straight monster season according to traditional Triple Crown stats, but he didn't rate nearly as well in advanced metrics such as WAR in large part because of his liability as a defender. Giving that much money that far in the future to a large, immobile, power hitter at that age left the sabermetrically inclined scratching their heads.
Howard's production and the Phillies' fortunes have suffered in the years since, and his onerous contract now has the team in a bind.
In 2013, the Phillies hired Scott Freedman as manager of baseball analytics, but Amaro downplayed Freedman's importance, saying, "I don't know if it's going to change the way we do business, necessarily." Although not a programmer, Freedman is described as "a talented individual" and a "creative thinker" by former supervisors Dan Halem (MLB) and Adam Fisher (Mets) respectively. Freedman's ability to pull the Phillies into the 21st century will require more support from upper management than it appears willing to provide.
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In 2010, GM Ruben Amaro boasted, "We don't have an in-house stats guy, and I kind of feel we never will. We're not a statistics-driven organization by any means."
Shortly after, Amaro signed slugging first baseman Ryan Howard -- already under contract for the next two years -- to a five-year, $125 million extension covering his age 32 through 36 seasons. Howard was coming off of his fourth straight monster season according to traditional Triple Crown stats, but he didn't rate nearly as well in advanced metrics such as WAR in large part because of his liability as a defender. Giving that much money that far in the future to a large, immobile, power hitter at that age left the sabermetrically inclined scratching their heads.
Howard's production and the Phillies' fortunes have suffered in the years since, and his onerous contract now has the team in a bind.
In 2013, the Phillies hired Scott Freedman as manager of baseball analytics, but Amaro downplayed Freedman's importance, saying, "I don't know if it's going to change the way we do business, necessarily." Although not a programmer, Freedman is described as "a talented individual" and a "creative thinker" by former supervisors Dan Halem (MLB) and Adam Fisher (Mets) respectively. Freedman's ability to pull the Phillies into the 21st century will require more support from upper management than it appears willing to provide.
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Michael Saunders out until the break. Please trade Navarro for OF depth NOW.
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Fixed.Positive A wrote:Michael Saunders is penciled in as a starter. Please trade Navarro for OF depth NOW.
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lol touche
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I'll just apologize in advance for sniping at all of you faggots as a coping mechanism for being a fan of team that calls James Loney its second best hitter.
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Stepped on a fucken sprinkler. Top 5 would only happen to a baseball player injury.Kid That's Lifeless wrote:Fixed.Positive A wrote:Michael Saunders is penciled in as a starter. Please trade Navarro for OF depth NOW.
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so the phils lost to a college team?
they're gonna be terrible
they're gonna be terrible
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not one starter played that game so it was their AA team vs a college team. either way, yeah you're right.
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its fun to kick people when they're down. But this shit happens regularly.
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There were two examples in there and one the mlb team let the other team use their players. To be fair they lost to the top ranked d2 school.
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good news is the giants are headed towards one of their down years. suck it fags.
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And to be even fairer, UT is better than 90% of D1 schools.
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Could the Longhorns beat the Sixers tho?
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Rough 30 or so pitches for Sanchez. E by Donaldson and three-run jack in the first. Ah well. Baseball is back.
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Yup. Odd year fucking it up already.
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really hope harvey doesn't derrick rose himself this year man, love watching him pitch every 5
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Yeah Harvey is must-see tv. Please stay healthy.
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I Dvr'd the Mets game too see Harvey and the recording started in the third, after he was pulled of course. Ah well. Caught some of Syndergaard, who seemed very similar to Zack Wheeler: nasty stuff, great fastball, questionable command. But if the Mets can find a way to tune those two up, a rotation of Harvey/ deGrom/ Wheeler/ Syndergaard might actually be the Generation K we missed out on two decades ago
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thor > wheeler
harvey looked sharp all things considered. pains me that he is on the mets but he might be my favorite young pitcher in the game.
harvey looked sharp all things considered. pains me that he is on the mets but he might be my favorite young pitcher in the game.
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Darvish down. Damn. That one actually makes me sad.
Rangers can't catch a fucking break.
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Well if they'd caught a fly ball they'd have a World Series victory.
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yea darvish going down sucks ass. he's another one of those "must watch every start" type pitchers
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Can't understand why Darvish wasn't dealt with last year. He was clearly injured, but they just sat him hoping that rest would resolve it. Seems it woulda been better to have him go through this process 6 months ago than today
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Yup and I don't believe Lee is just inflammation either.peanut butter wrote:Can't understand why Darvish wasn't dealt with last year. He was clearly injured, but they just sat him hoping that rest would resolve it. Seems it woulda been better to have him go through this process 6 months ago than today
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Stroman out for the season. The last time I was this close to tears was when I watched Dear Zachary.
Fuck.
Fuck.