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2015 NFL OFFSEASON THREAD

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:01 pm
by capable_keL
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Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:53 pm
by alpha
Mack out there tho

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:24 am
by capable_keL
we'll tell our grandchildren where we were when we saw....the drive

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:45 am
by alpha
I'm die hard but let's not get that far ahead. Hayden finally had a good game. Tj carrie was out. Murray looked great, but would love to see him be featured the rest of the season. Woodley, mjd and dmac can all come off the books next year. Trade down and get more picks. Man I'm so pumped right now

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:50 am
by capable_keL
didn't know Carr was so gay for Jesus.... kind of tarnishes his gleam

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:52 am
by alpha
Ok, I'm on Twitter and other than that over celebrating the sack, what was embarassing about the end of the game on either side?

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:55 am
by alpha
I ask because Lisa Guerrero retweeted some other broads tweet about that, figured Id ask before I point out it's a women's right to point out the one wrong thing in an otherwise good situation.

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:57 am
by capable_keL
first of all, there are way too many stupid people on twitter.
the boys got their first win, let em go nuts. it was a big win and we live in the era where players celebrate when they are down by 20 points.
the only odd part for me was watching Carr go Reggie White on God in the post game interview

*shrugs*

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:00 am
by alpha
I'm not religious but that doesn't bother me. There's way more Christians out there than people like me. If Jesus wants him to throw touchdowns im all good with it.

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:30 am
by capable_keL
If there is a god, I wonder if it's his will for Carr to play football. It would make more sense for him to be focusing on immigration reform.

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:23 am
by DLG
so tuck basically saved the game for them by calling that timeout

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:45 am
by ric
didn't see the game but bizarre outcome

also i don't have Internet or TV right now. can't afford it. so here's the mnf analysis.

qbs: playing poker with the shoulder dip
I've learned that in a zone when defenders are looking at the qb or when defs are in man to man d and able to look at qb in pass situations what the dbs try to do in order to get an early read on where the ball is going so they can play it well is they read the dip of qbs shoulder when they wind up to throw the ball.

I'm calling it the dip but the shoulder facing the defense actually goes up. the key here is that when the qb throws deep medium and shallow the dip will be at various heights and degrees depending on how strong the qbs arm is. more dip equals deeper throw equals defs who know to haul ass and play deep etc etc right?

ok. so this also gives us insight into why nfl offensive coaches love qbs with strong arms. #1 is obviously throwing into tight windows through thoroughbred defs etc etc (you know the physical velocity and launch angle/launch point potential of the throw itself) but #2 is also that strong arm qbs have less dip and ideally none at all. this allows them to not tip their hand to the def as much about where they are throwing or at least how far that throw is going to be in said lane because theoretically the qb still wants to square his shoulders hips and feet to the catch point. and obv this also may allow for quicker release. just thinking back it's possible that Dan Marino had small dip because that arm was live as fuck and I'd bet that jamarcus Russell had real low dip since dude could launch 70 yarders on his knees and shit

so if the cheetah def has difficulty reading your dip he will be less likely to be in position to make plays

it's important to note though that just because a qb can zip it in there doesn't mean they have a strong (read low dip) throwing arm. brees can throw a long high velocity ball but motherfucker has to cock back like crazy to do so and thus tip his hand etc. Romo has a strong arm but the motherfucker seems to move his body based on feel and he may or may not dip on any given play. if I remember correctly he usually does or at least usually has in the past and this may be part of why he is so easy to pick. because breaking on the ball is easier because you know how far he means to throw it. Rivers is an example of a qb with bizarre shoulder movement which may contribute to how defs play him

keep in mind however that certain def techniques like the previously discussed pattern read style of zone def the dip is basically irrelevant because the defenders are so busy trying to match the pattern and trail their assignment and play the spacing just right and they are turned around so they literally cannot see the qb most of the time. but we must remember that not every pattern reading def is blind to the qb. if you are for example the over the top safety adding in to the pattern you have time a lot of the time to watch the qb square up and dip so you have an idea about where the ball is going or if it is going to your pattern

since I'm on topic it is also possible that some qbs like to show high dip and then throw a low velocity or short location throw. just another game with the game

let's look at one specific possible application of qb dip. take our past example of kuechly playing middle field spot drop. he could be looking at any shallow wrs and noting locations but also and perhaps primarily reading where the qb is square and then waiting for a low dip throw to tell him where the play is headed

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:47 am
by hustler
the game wasn't over and they were celebrating 15 yards behind the play. realy dumb shit. it woulda been offside, move the chains, new set of down, and a much more manageable field. typical raider retardedness.

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:22 pm
by Tweak Da Leak
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Shaun Hill, we coming for you nigga

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:20 pm
by Smithee
Tweak Da Leak wrote:Image

Shaun Hill, we coming for you nigga
:rofl: Rivers is such a faggot.

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:57 pm
by Ramen
DLG wrote:so tuck basically saved the game for them by calling that timeout
Redemption for not doing shit all year.

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:35 am
by VideoKilledThe
capable_keL wrote:didn't know Carr was so gay for Jesus.... kind of tarnishes his gleam
:rofl:

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:02 am
by Cash Rulz
Ideas?

PRO FOOTBALL - SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 23, 2014
5 FALCONS  - 3½ 1:00p 6 BROWNS + 3½
7 ATL/CLE OVER 47½ 8 ATL/CLE UNDER 47½
9 EAGLES  - 11½ 1:00p 10 TITANS +11½
11 PHI/TEN OVER 48½ 12 PHI/TEN UNDER 48½
13 PATRIOTS  - 7½ 1:00p 14 LIONS + 7½
15 NE/DET OVER 47½ 16 NE/DET UNDER 47½
17 PACKERS - 9½ 1:00p 18 VIKINGS  + 9½
19 GB/MIN OVER 48½ 20 GB/MIN UNDER 48½
21 COLTS  - 13½ 1:00p 22 JAGUARS +13½
23 IND/JAX OVER 50½ 24 IND/JAX UNDER 50½
25 TEXANS  - 1½ 1:00p 26 BENGALS + 1½
27 HOU/CIN OVER 43½ 28 HOU/CIN UNDER 43½
29 BILLS  - 4½ 1:00p 30 JETS + 4½
31 BUF/NYJ OVER 39½ 32 BUF/NYJ UNDER 39½
33 BEARS  - 5½ 1:00p 34 BUCCANEERS + 5½
35 CHI/TB OVER 46½ 36 CHI/TB UNDER 46½
37 SEAHAWKS  - 6½ 4:05p 38 CARDINALS + 6½
39 SEA/ARZ OVER 41½ 40 SEA/ARZ UNDER 41½
41 CHARGERS  - 4½ 4:05p 42 RAMS + 4½
43 SD/STL OVER 43½ 44 SD/STL UNDER 43½
45 BRONCOS  - 7½ 4:25p 46 DOLPHINS + 7½
47 DEN/MIA OVER 48½ 48 DEN/MIA UNDER 48½
49 49ERS  - 9½ 4:25p 50 REDSKINS + 9½
51 SF/WAS OVER 43½ 52 SF/WAS UNDER 43½
53 COWBOYS nbc - 3½ 8:30p 54 GIANTS  + 3½
55 DAL/NYG OVER 47½ 56 DAL/NYG UNDER 47½
PRO FOOTBALL - MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2014
57 SAINTS  espn - 3½ 8:30p 58 RAVENS + 3½
59 NO/BAL OVER 50½ 60 NO/BAL UNDER 50½

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:40 pm
by hustler
weekly nfl thread not even reaching DPB status. y'all should be ashamed. cowboys giants is gona be a great one. IN ROMO WE TRUST

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:47 pm
by AXEWOUNDFISTER
fuck outta here with that romo shit today is odells game homie.

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:06 pm
by peanut butter
That might be the best catch I've ever seen



PEACE

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:06 pm
by hustler
ODB with maybe the greatest catch ive ever seen. too bad its gona come in a losing effort.

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:11 pm
by siLLy KiD
peanut butter wrote:That might be the best catch I've ever seen



PEACE
Fucking insane. That kid is the truth.

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:22 pm
by boianski
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Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:27 pm
by DLG
insanity

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:45 pm
by alpha
hustler wrote:weekly nfl thread not even reaching DPB status. y'all should be ashamed. cowboys giants is gona be a great one. IN ROMO WE TRUST
It's a community effort. My team played Thursday, so where the fuck was everyone else today?

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:52 pm
by Philaflava
SICK.

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:01 pm
by GUCCI CONDOMS
alpha wrote:
hustler wrote:weekly nfl thread not even reaching DPB status. y'all should be ashamed. cowboys giants is gona be a great one. IN ROMO WE TRUST
It's a community effort. My team played Thursday, so where the fuck was everyone else today?
It's not that simple. The NFL weekly threads have been gradually having lower and lower activity as the season has gone on...

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:09 pm
by hustler
49rs going nowhere so all the san fran fags disapear.
ditto for seachicken fans.

these fairweather posters are absolutely pathetic. im in here every week supporting the rams who this season have defeated both superbowl teams from last year. also i pull through with dope betting advice. wtf else has anyone else done besides ric with his monday night analysis.

Re: NFL WEEK 12

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:11 pm
by siLLy KiD
People dont post as much in every forum in every thread because you two faggots do. That's the honest truth. #GETFAMILIAR