"wrote off as a John Stockton Clone"

Dids · Post by **Dids** » Sun May 22, 2005 11:02 am

Blog thread got locked before I could diss Sysmantics for saying this.

That's retarded.

Nash still isn't close to Stockton's league. Not until he can play defense will he ever be n the conversation. Any suggestion that Nash > Stockton is fucking retarded.

The End.

Sankofa · Post by **Sankofa** » Sun May 22, 2005 1:28 pm

From what I've read, this reborn Nash seems to be more in the vein of Pistol Pete than John Stockton.

alpha · Post by **alpha** » Sun May 22, 2005 1:54 pm

how many mvp's did stockton win?

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sun May 22, 2005 2:44 pm

alpha wrote:how many mvp's did stockton win?

are you serious?

if stockton in his prime was on phoenix, he would've averaged 16 assists per game and there would be no question to who MVP was instead of being a debate b/w shaq and nash.

this is a man that averaged 14.5 assists per game in a half court, pick and roll offense.

nash went from underrated player last offseason to the most overrated player of all time right now. sickening

eternalreflection · Post by **eternalreflection** » Sun May 22, 2005 9:12 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:
alpha wrote:how many mvp's did stockton win?
are you serious?

if stockton in his prime was on phoenix, he would've averaged 16 assists per game and there would be no question to who MVP was instead of being a debate b/w shaq and nash.

this is a man that averaged 14.5 assists per game in a half court, pick and roll offense.

nash went from underrated player last offseason to the most overrated player of all time right now. sickening

16 might be a modest estimate, 18-20 with those weapons and game style wouldn't be unrealistic

Move Free · Post by **Move Free** » Mon May 23, 2005 6:48 pm

saying nash is better than stockton is like saying 2pac is the greatest mc of all time

it shows your a new jack who listens to the radio too much

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Mon May 23, 2005 7:05 pm

Move Free wrote:saying nash is better than stockton is like saying 2pac is the greatest mc of all time

it shows your a new jack who listens to the radio too much

hey, you can diss nash.

just leave tupac alone, backpacker.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Mon May 23, 2005 7:12 pm

He has much more talent then Stockton. Much better scorer.

BeHemoth · Post by **BeHemoth** » Mon May 23, 2005 7:51 pm

what stockton had you couldn't teach.

nohomobile

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Mon May 23, 2005 8:39 pm

i swear to god i feel like i died and went to a place where idiots talk about basketball.

Peeping Tom · Post by **Peeping Tom** » Mon May 23, 2005 8:41 pm

this thread doesn't exist

nash doesn't play D you can't say he's a great basketball player when only one facet of his game is good

you can't just be a great batter in baseball and expect to enter the hall of fame

same in basketball

and in the same vein dirk is a pussy

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Mon May 23, 2005 9:09 pm

nash isn't half the player stockton is.

the only thing nash might be better at is three point shooting and even that is close.

but stockton was quicker, better passer, better court awareness, ran an offense better, played better defense, and was 20 times more of a clutch player then nash ever will be.

nash can't even carry stockton's jockstraps.

SoulClap · Post by **SoulClap** » Mon May 23, 2005 11:20 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:nash isn't half the player stockton is.

the only thing nash might be better at is three point shooting and even that is close.

but stockton was quicker, better passer, better court awareness, ran an offense better, played better defense, and was 20 times more of a clutch player then nash ever will be.

nash can't even carry stockton's jockstraps.

I was with you until the clutch thing.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Mon May 23, 2005 11:31 pm

SoulClap wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:nash isn't half the player stockton is.

the only thing nash might be better at is three point shooting and even that is close.

but stockton was quicker, better passer, better court awareness, ran an offense better, played better defense, and was 20 times more of a clutch player then nash ever will be.

nash can't even carry stockton's jockstraps.
I was with you until the clutch thing.

he was.

you know how many big shots hes it?

in crunchtime, the ball was in stockton's hands. not malone's.

SYM · Post by **SYM** » Mon May 23, 2005 11:33 pm

damn, i wasn't even being that serious.

i was really only looking in regards to assists and team dynamic.

SoulClap · Post by **SoulClap** » Mon May 23, 2005 11:41 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote: he was.

you know how many big shots hes it?

in crunchtime, the ball was in stockton's hands. not malone's.

I wasn't disputing his clutchness but Nash is a clutch player as well.

eternalreflection · Post by **eternalreflection** » Tue May 24, 2005 12:11 am

Nash had 11.5 assists/game this year with a loaded offense and very fast tempo

Stockton average more assists than that for 8 FUCKING YEARS IN A ROW, 13.8,13.6,14.5,14.2,13.7,12.0,12.6,12.3 then 11.2 87/88 through 95/96

Nash isn't anywhere near Stockton's league, not even close

its is just a sign of how far true PG play has fallen, that Nash is getting acolades ... this is the only year in the last 40 a PG could have won the MVP with the stats he had

also Stockton was scoring 17ish a game for most of those years .. Nash only had 15.5

Junglebratz · Post by **Junglebratz** » Fri May 27, 2005 9:01 pm

Nash is a quicker version of Mark Price.

Stock is obviously better.

Sankofa · Post by **Sankofa** » Fri May 27, 2005 9:51 pm

Junglebratz wrote:Nash is a quicker version of Mark Price.

You can't mention Price without the god.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Fri May 27, 2005 9:54 pm

Junglebratz wrote:Nash is a quicker version of Mark Price.

Stock is obviously better.

wtf, i've BEEN saying this.

Junglebratz · Post by **Junglebratz** » Fri May 27, 2005 10:15 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:
Junglebratz wrote:Nash is a quicker version of Mark Price.

Stock is obviously better.
wtf, i've BEEN saying this.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Fri May 27, 2005 10:25 pm

http://philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... mark+price

BLAST FROM THE PAST

oracle21 · Post by **oracle21** » Sat May 28, 2005 10:57 am

lol ahh man as much as i hate the jazz and corny karl malone and stockton stockton is a better player case closed

binary · Post by **binary** » Sun May 29, 2005 9:05 am

John Stockton played good D.

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:29 pm

binary wrote:John Stockton played good D.

it is true that this white man leads the league IN ALL-TIME STEALS

and don't tell me about the team defense, etc. he's still the ALL-TIME LEADER

Cash Rulz · Post by **Cash Rulz** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:03 am

Stockton is better than Nash. Point blank.

However, Nash is quicker than Stockton and a better scorer.

But overall, Stockton was the smarter and better player.

oracle21 · Post by **oracle21** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:58 pm

cosigned cash

OMNI · Post by **OMNI** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:12 pm

Stockton wasn't fast-fast. But he was basketball fast. In his later years, I remeber him burning Steve Francis off the dribble because he knew when to explode to the hoop.

This thread is silly, Nash couldn't hold Stockton's jockstrap. Do you think Stockton would have gotten badly out played by Tony Parker in his prime?

Sankofa · Post by **Sankofa** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:22 pm

Cash Rulz wrote: However, Nash is...a better scorer.

IF (damn, that's a big if) Stockton wanted to score lots of points, he could have done so, but he was content to set up his pussified big man.

Cash Rulz · Post by **Cash Rulz** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:55 pm

Nash is better at dribble penetration than Stockton.

Stockton was just smarter so he figured ways to get the ball to the open man without it.

Understand also, an assist is only an assist when the person you pass to scores. So it must also be taken under consideration that Stockton did often pass the ball to someone who was able to make their shots and shot much higher percentages than anyone that Nash is passing to.