Are these players HOF worthy?

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:10 am

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:38 am

Philaflava wrote:Click on the provided links to see their stat history & background.

Andre Dawson http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/dawsoan01.shtml
Frank Thomas http://www.baseball-reference.com/t/thomafr04.shtml

Ryne Sandberg http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/sandbry01.shtml

Jack Morris http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/morrija02.shtml
Dale Murphy http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/murphda05.shtml
Jim Rice http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/riceji01.shtml

Yes.

Mo Cheeks · Post by **Mo Cheeks** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:31 pm

The Hawk owns everyone on that list, it was fun rooting for him in his late decline when he had no right playing

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:54 pm

mag's list is on point.

i've always maintained that don mattingly should be in the HOF cause him and kirby played the same # of years and have virtiually identical career stats. also there were 4 years where he was arguably the best hitter in baseball.

Myjah · Post by **Myjah** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:58 pm

Philaflava wrote:Click on the provided links to see their stat history & background.

Chilli Davis http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/davisch01.shtml

Jack Morris http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/morrija02.shtml

I say YES!!!!!

Ofcourse, after Tony Oliva is put in the HOF.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:03 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:mag's list is on point.

i've always maintained that don mattingly should be in the HOF cause him and kirby played the same # of years and have virtiually identical career stats. also there were 4 years where he was arguably the best hitter in baseball.

but mag doesn't think that

stupidregister · Post by **stupidregister** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:05 pm

Moe Cheeks wrote:The Hawk owns everyone on that list

That's true, plus he had that gangster batting stance.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:49 pm

Philaflava wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:mag's list is on point.

i've always maintained that don mattingly should be in the HOF cause him and kirby played the same # of years and have virtiually identical career stats. also there were 4 years where he was arguably the best hitter in baseball.
but mag doesn't think that

i know. i added my own tidbit, is that a problem?

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:50 pm

stupidregister wrote:
Moe Cheeks wrote:The Hawk owns everyone on that list
That's true, plus he had that gangster batting stance.

sorry

i think jim rice is the best player on that list.

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:59 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:
stupidregister wrote:
Moe Cheeks wrote:The Hawk owns everyone on that list
That's true, plus he had that gangster batting stance.
sorry

i think jim rice is the best player on that list.

what if you take into account fielding?

cuz dude was dh like a 1/4 or 1/3 of his career

stupidregister · Post by **stupidregister** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:01 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:
stupidregister wrote:
Moe Cheeks wrote:The Hawk owns everyone on that list
That's true, plus he had that gangster batting stance.
sorry

i think jim rice is the best player on that list.

Who cares what you think (ooooooh dissssssss).

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:03 pm

reason is yellow wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:
stupidregister wrote:
Moe Cheeks wrote:The Hawk owns everyone on that list
That's true, plus he had that gangster batting stance.
sorry

i think jim rice is the best player on that list.
what if you take into account fielding?

cuz dude was dh like a 1/4 or 1/3 of his career

even if you take into account fielding, i'd still take jim rice in this list. frank thomas is the best hitter on this list. Dawson is a superior fielder to rice. but i'd rather have rice then both.

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:12 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:
reason is yellow wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:
stupidregister wrote:
Moe Cheeks wrote:The Hawk owns everyone on that list
That's true, plus he had that gangster batting stance.
sorry

i think jim rice is the best player on that list.
what if you take into account fielding?

cuz dude was dh like a 1/4 or 1/3 of his career
even if you take into account fielding, i'd still take jim rice in this list. frank thomas is the best hitter on this list. Dawson is a superior fielder to rice. but i'd rather have rice then both.

i was implying sandberg should get a shout for possibly being the best...2B with those hr/rbi numbers in his prime?

Spiccoli · Post by **Spiccoli** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:27 pm

i thought ryne sandberg was already inducted?

OMNI · Post by **OMNI** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:25 pm

Jim Rice
Jack Morris-most clutch pitcher ever!

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:55 pm

Spiccoli wrote:i thought ryne sandberg was already inducted?

he is.

OMNI · Post by **OMNI** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:58 pm

from 75-85 it can be argued that Rice was the best hitter in baseball.

Also, my standards for the baseball HOF are higher then anyother HOF.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:15 pm

OMNI wrote:from 75-85 it can be argued that Rice was the best hitter in baseball.

Also, my standards for the baseball HOF are higher then anyother HOF.

make that 75-83

cause from 84-87, i feel mattingly owned home plate.

eternalreflection · Post by **eternalreflection** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:25 pm

OMNI wrote: Jack Morris-most clutch pitcher ever!

his 10 inning shutout in game 7 of the WS was the most incredible thing I've ever seen in sports

OMNI · Post by **OMNI** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:26 pm

I'm not saying he was the best every year, but from that time period it could be argued he was the best hitter.

Take a look at this
http://www.scapicchio.com/baseblog/Rice.pdf

OMNI · Post by **OMNI** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:27 pm

eternalreflection wrote:
OMNI wrote: Jack Morris-most clutch pitcher ever!
his 10 inning shutout in game 7 of the WS was the most incredible thing I've ever seen in sports

its up there

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:39 pm

Myjah wrote:
Philaflava wrote:Click on the provided links to see their stat history & background.

Chilli Davis http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/davisch01.shtml

Jack Morris http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/morrija02.shtml
I say YES!!!!!

Ofcourse, after Tony Oliva is put in the HOF.

LOL @ Chilli Davis.

Know who else I think is a Hall of Famer, seriously? Omar Visquel. His HOF monitor is 104 (And B-R.com is usually on point) and he's every bit as good as Ozzie Smith defensively and significantly better offensive player.

OMNI · Post by **OMNI** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:41 pm

Magneto wrote:
Myjah wrote:
Philaflava wrote:Click on the provided links to see their stat history & background.

Chilli Davis http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/davisch01.shtml

Jack Morris http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/morrija02.shtml
I say YES!!!!!

Ofcourse, after Tony Oliva is put in the HOF.
LOL @ Chilli Davis.

Know who else I think is a Hall of Famer, seriously? Omar Visquel. His HOF monitor is 104 (And B-R.com is usually on point) and he's every bit as good as Ozzie Smith defensively and significantly better offensive player.

Do you think the Nomars, Jeters, A-Rods, and Tejadas have changed what we should look for in a short stop? The posisiton is so much different then it was 15 years ago.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:49 pm

i don't think nomar is a HOF. i think a-rod, jeter, and tejada are.

i also think omar will get in but not on first and probably not second ballot.

however i disagree with mags and think ozzie was better defensively then omar. mags probably saw more games then me of ozzie though so he might be right but from what i saw, i disagree.

i love baseball reference, basketball reference, and football reference .coms

OMNI · Post by **OMNI** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:53 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:i don't think nomar is a HOF. i think a-rod, jeter, and tejada are.

NOMAR has to get healthy to make the HOF. But he is more deserving then Tejada at this point.

check this out
http://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/ ... &st=career

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:50 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:i don't think nomar is a HOF. i think a-rod, jeter, and tejada are.

i also think omar will get in but not on first and probably not second ballot.

however i disagree with mags and think ozzie was better defensively then omar. mags probably saw more games then me of ozzie though so he might be right but from what i saw, i disagree.

i love baseball reference, basketball reference, and football reference .coms

Yeah, Nomar isn't a HOF.

I think Ozzie might be a little more flashier a player. Omar I believe has better range, thus making his plays sometimes look less spectacular. Sorta Jim Edmonds/Andruw Jones situation. Jim Edmonds makes better looking plays, cause Andruw Jones covers more crowd effortlessly. Also is the hotdog factor...but y'know how that goes.

Oh shiit anyone see Kyle Farnsworth today? He football tackled someone during that Tigers/Royals brawl.

Mo Cheeks · Post by **Mo Cheeks** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:29 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:
reason is yellow wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:
stupidregister wrote:
Moe Cheeks wrote:The Hawk owns everyone on that list
That's true, plus he had that gangster batting stance.
sorry

i think jim rice is the best player on that list.
what if you take into account fielding?

cuz dude was dh like a 1/4 or 1/3 of his career
even if you take into account fielding, i'd still take jim rice in this list. frank thomas is the best hitter on this list. Dawson is a superior fielder to rice. but i'd rather have rice then both.

yeah but when Dawson was in his prime he was a good fielder and a great base stealer in his earlier yearsl. His 1987 Season was fucking crazy insane and he carried the Cubs that year, not to take anything away from Rice

stupidregister · Post by **stupidregister** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:56 pm

Magneto wrote:Oh shiit anyone see Kyle Farnsworth today? He football tackled someone during that Tigers/Royals brawl.

Again? He speared some guy on the Reds a few years ago after dude charged the mound on him. He actually made baseball exciting for a day.

OMNI · Post by **OMNI** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:07 pm

Magneto wrote:
Yeah, Nomar isn't a HOF.

.

his stats are better then Tejada and Jeter in the same time period. His post season stats are great too.

Myjah · Post by **Myjah** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:14 am

Magneto wrote:
Myjah wrote:
Philaflava wrote:Click on the provided links to see their stat history & background.

Chilli Davis http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/davisch01.shtml

Jack Morris http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/morrija02.shtml
I say YES!!!!!

Ofcourse, after Tony Oliva is put in the HOF.
LOL @ Chilli Davis.

Know who else I think is a Hall of Famer, seriously? Omar Visquel. His HOF monitor is 104 (And B-R.com is usually on point) and he's every bit as good as Ozzie Smith defensively and significantly better offensive player.

Sometimes people take me too seriously.

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