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first order of buisness: Eagles put franchise tag on LJ Smith. LOLLOLOLOLOL
first order of buisness: Eagles put franchise tag on LJ Smith. LOLLOLOLOLOL
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If I was Parcell's I would definitely bleed jerry jones on this deal
I would demand both their 1st rd picks and anthony spencer and a conditional 3rd or 4th rd based on pick(basically getting 3 1's and a 3-4for the #1 pick)
jones wants McFadden and Parcell's doesn't need another RB instead he needs youth on that defense, which they can use with the picks
The Rams are gonna get a steal with Dorsey at #2...Carriker in his 2nd year, Dorsey should help Little get his pass rush on solidifying that softy dline
Chargers need depth at the T position and Safety help, if we don't get Eugene Wilson in Free Agency I say draft the best S available
I would demand both their 1st rd picks and anthony spencer and a conditional 3rd or 4th rd based on pick(basically getting 3 1's and a 3-4for the #1 pick)
jones wants McFadden and Parcell's doesn't need another RB instead he needs youth on that defense, which they can use with the picks
The Rams are gonna get a steal with Dorsey at #2...Carriker in his 2nd year, Dorsey should help Little get his pass rush on solidifying that softy dline
Chargers need depth at the T position and Safety help, if we don't get Eugene Wilson in Free Agency I say draft the best S available
Dallas actually wants Mcfadden?? jesusTweak Da Leak wrote:If I was Parcell's I would definitely bleed jerry jones on this deal
I would demand both their 1st rd picks and anthony spencer and a conditional 3rd or 4th rd based on pick(basically getting 3 1's and a 3-4for the #1 pick)
jones wants McFadden and Parcell's doesn't need another RB instead he needs youth on that defense, which they can use with the picks
The Rams are gonna get a steal with Dorsey at #2...Carriker in his 2nd year, Dorsey should help Little get his pass rush on solidifying that softy dline
Chargers need depth at the T position and Safety help, if we don't get Eugene Wilson in Free Agency I say draft the best S available
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February 8, 2008 11:58 AM
Posted by ESPN.com's Mike McAllister
HONOLULU -- Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson thinks he'll produce a 2,000-yard season. In fact, he thinks he'll do it in 2008.
"Oh, yeah, I set my bar high," he said this week, one of just four rookies (Patrick Willis, Joe Thomas and Nick Folk are the others) appearing in the Pro Bowl. "That's definitely where I'd like to start."
Halfway through his spectacular rookie season in 2007, Peterson was on pace to do just that. He was at 1,036 yards after his NFL single-game record 296-yard performance in a Week 9 win against the Chargers.
But a sprained knee suffered the next week at Green Bay basically derailed him for the rest of the season. He missed the next two games, and even though he came back to rush for 116 yards in a rout of Detroit, he never really seemed the same, managing just 144 yards in the final four games and eventually finishing with 1,341 yards, second in the league to LaDainian Tomlinson's 1,474.
"I wasn't fully healthy," he acknowledged. "But I don't want to make excuses."
If he did, his knee injury wouldn't be the only one. Opponents game-planned for him, loading up in the box while not having to worry about the Vikings' anemic passing game (28th in the league).
Plus, it wasn't like Peterson was getting a heavy dose of carries. Of the nine players who rushed for 1,200-plus yards in 2007, only the Jaguars' Fred Taylor had less carries than Peterson's 238.
Although his nickname is All Day -- which he acquired as a baby because "I was so energized; I was always into something" -- his workload was more like Two-Thirds of a Day. (Helpful side note: Peterson prefers that you call him "AD" instead of "AP." Yeah, may be a bit confusing, but hey, it's his nickname.)
Peterson knows he can't control the amount of carries he gets. He just wants to keep pushing.
"Just continue to do what I always do," he said. "That's set my goals, set the bar high, continue to work hard and it will show on the field. That's the mindset I have."
But the question remains: Does Peterson have 659 more yards in him? Will he join Eric Dickerson, Jamal Lewis, Barry Sanders, Terrell Davis and O.J. Simpson in the 2,000-yard club?
He has the home-run potential that can salvage an otherwise ordinary day. He also has guard Steve Hutchinson, center Matt Birk and fullback Tony Richardson blocking for him. All on the NFC's Pro Bowl roster.
On the flip side, there's that nasty thing called the forward pass that isn't exactly the Vikings' forte. And Chester Taylor's presence on the roster will siphon off some of Peterson's carries. Taylor rushed for 1,216 yards in the season prior to Peterson's arrival, so the Vikes are certainly justified in handing him the ball 150 times a season.
Taylor has two more years left on his four-year, $14.1 million contract. Provided the Vikings don't trade him, the guess here is that Peterson's first legitimate shot at 2000 yards won't come until 2010 -- depending, of course, on whether Taylor is re-signed.
Perhaps by then, the Vikes will have stabilized their quarterback situation (Is Tarvaris Jackson the answer?) that will prevent opposing defenses from loading up on Peterson.
And that would be Peterson's fourth season in the league, pretty much in the middle of when the other running backs rushed for 2,000 yards. Davis did it his fourth season; Simpson his fifth; Jamal Lewis his third (but he missed a season due to injury); and Eric Dickerson his second. Barry Sanders was the lone latecomer, rushing for 2,053 yards in his ninth season.
So, time for you to weigh in. Will Peterson ever rush for 2,000 yards?
Posted by ESPN.com's Mike McAllister
HONOLULU -- Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson thinks he'll produce a 2,000-yard season. In fact, he thinks he'll do it in 2008.
"Oh, yeah, I set my bar high," he said this week, one of just four rookies (Patrick Willis, Joe Thomas and Nick Folk are the others) appearing in the Pro Bowl. "That's definitely where I'd like to start."
Halfway through his spectacular rookie season in 2007, Peterson was on pace to do just that. He was at 1,036 yards after his NFL single-game record 296-yard performance in a Week 9 win against the Chargers.
But a sprained knee suffered the next week at Green Bay basically derailed him for the rest of the season. He missed the next two games, and even though he came back to rush for 116 yards in a rout of Detroit, he never really seemed the same, managing just 144 yards in the final four games and eventually finishing with 1,341 yards, second in the league to LaDainian Tomlinson's 1,474.
"I wasn't fully healthy," he acknowledged. "But I don't want to make excuses."
If he did, his knee injury wouldn't be the only one. Opponents game-planned for him, loading up in the box while not having to worry about the Vikings' anemic passing game (28th in the league).
Plus, it wasn't like Peterson was getting a heavy dose of carries. Of the nine players who rushed for 1,200-plus yards in 2007, only the Jaguars' Fred Taylor had less carries than Peterson's 238.
Although his nickname is All Day -- which he acquired as a baby because "I was so energized; I was always into something" -- his workload was more like Two-Thirds of a Day. (Helpful side note: Peterson prefers that you call him "AD" instead of "AP." Yeah, may be a bit confusing, but hey, it's his nickname.)
Peterson knows he can't control the amount of carries he gets. He just wants to keep pushing.
"Just continue to do what I always do," he said. "That's set my goals, set the bar high, continue to work hard and it will show on the field. That's the mindset I have."
But the question remains: Does Peterson have 659 more yards in him? Will he join Eric Dickerson, Jamal Lewis, Barry Sanders, Terrell Davis and O.J. Simpson in the 2,000-yard club?
He has the home-run potential that can salvage an otherwise ordinary day. He also has guard Steve Hutchinson, center Matt Birk and fullback Tony Richardson blocking for him. All on the NFC's Pro Bowl roster.
On the flip side, there's that nasty thing called the forward pass that isn't exactly the Vikings' forte. And Chester Taylor's presence on the roster will siphon off some of Peterson's carries. Taylor rushed for 1,216 yards in the season prior to Peterson's arrival, so the Vikes are certainly justified in handing him the ball 150 times a season.
Taylor has two more years left on his four-year, $14.1 million contract. Provided the Vikings don't trade him, the guess here is that Peterson's first legitimate shot at 2000 yards won't come until 2010 -- depending, of course, on whether Taylor is re-signed.
Perhaps by then, the Vikes will have stabilized their quarterback situation (Is Tarvaris Jackson the answer?) that will prevent opposing defenses from loading up on Peterson.
And that would be Peterson's fourth season in the league, pretty much in the middle of when the other running backs rushed for 2,000 yards. Davis did it his fourth season; Simpson his fifth; Jamal Lewis his third (but he missed a season due to injury); and Eric Dickerson his second. Barry Sanders was the lone latecomer, rushing for 2,053 yards in his ninth season.
So, time for you to weigh in. Will Peterson ever rush for 2,000 yards?
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2008 Salary cap situation for the NFL
Projected 2008 NFL Salary Cap Space for Each Team
Rank Team $ Under the Cap
1 San Diego Chargers $43.03 M
There are currently 44 players under contract.
2 Tennessee Titans $40.85 M
There are currently 39 players under contract.
3 Miami Dolphins $35.56 M
There are currently 48 players under contract.
4 Jacksonville Jaguars $32.69 M
There are currently 43 players under contract.
5 Buffalo Bills $32.05 M
There are currently 49 players under contract.
6 New Orleans Saints $31.69 M
There are currently 39 players under contract.
7 Cincinnati Bengals $31.45 M
There are currently 48 players under contract.
8 San Francisco 49ers $30.91 M
There are currently 48 players under contract.
9 Cleveland Browns $30.31 M
There are currently 42 players under contract.
10 Arizona Cardinals $30.27 M
There are currently 34 players under contract.
11 NY Jets $27.72 M
There are currently 45 players under contract.
12 Oakland Raiders $25.98 M
There are currently 40 players under contract.
13 Tampa Bay Buccaneers $25.9 M
There are currently 48 players under contract.
14 NY Giants $24.47 M
There are currently 49 players under contract.
15 Detroit Lions $23.5 M
There are currently 42 players under contract.
16 Houston Texans $22.91 M
There are currently 43 players under contract.
17 Dallas Cowboys $20.61 M
There are currently 40 players under contract.
18 Kansas City Chiefs $20.27 M
There are currently 44 players under contract.
19 Chicago Bears $19.8 M
There are currently 52 players under contract.
20 Pittsburgh Steelers $18.61 M
There are currently 43 players under contract.
21 Green Bay Packers $18.37 M
There are currently 48 players under contract.
22 Philadelphia Eagles $17.17 M
There are currently 49 players under contract.
23 Denver Broncos $16.77 M
There are currently 49 players under contract.
24 Minnesota Vikings $14.88 M
There are currently 49 players under contract.
25 New England Patriots $10.93 M
There are currently 41 players under contract.
26 St. Louis Rams $9.61 M
There are currently 45 players under contract.
27 Seattle Seahawks $9.55 M
There are currently 44 players under contract.
28 Indianapolis Colts $8.49 M
There are currently 48 players under contract.
29 Carolina Panthers $6.05 M
There are currently 35 players under contract.
30 Atlanta Falcons $5.79 M
There are currently 52 players under contract.
31 Baltimore Ravens $5 M
There are currently 42 players under contract.
32 Washington Redskins $-20.72 M
There are currently 45 players under contract.
Projected 2008 NFL Salary Cap Space for Each Team
Rank Team $ Under the Cap
1 San Diego Chargers $43.03 M
There are currently 44 players under contract.
2 Tennessee Titans $40.85 M
There are currently 39 players under contract.
3 Miami Dolphins $35.56 M
There are currently 48 players under contract.
4 Jacksonville Jaguars $32.69 M
There are currently 43 players under contract.
5 Buffalo Bills $32.05 M
There are currently 49 players under contract.
6 New Orleans Saints $31.69 M
There are currently 39 players under contract.
7 Cincinnati Bengals $31.45 M
There are currently 48 players under contract.
8 San Francisco 49ers $30.91 M
There are currently 48 players under contract.
9 Cleveland Browns $30.31 M
There are currently 42 players under contract.
10 Arizona Cardinals $30.27 M
There are currently 34 players under contract.
11 NY Jets $27.72 M
There are currently 45 players under contract.
12 Oakland Raiders $25.98 M
There are currently 40 players under contract.
13 Tampa Bay Buccaneers $25.9 M
There are currently 48 players under contract.
14 NY Giants $24.47 M
There are currently 49 players under contract.
15 Detroit Lions $23.5 M
There are currently 42 players under contract.
16 Houston Texans $22.91 M
There are currently 43 players under contract.
17 Dallas Cowboys $20.61 M
There are currently 40 players under contract.
18 Kansas City Chiefs $20.27 M
There are currently 44 players under contract.
19 Chicago Bears $19.8 M
There are currently 52 players under contract.
20 Pittsburgh Steelers $18.61 M
There are currently 43 players under contract.
21 Green Bay Packers $18.37 M
There are currently 48 players under contract.
22 Philadelphia Eagles $17.17 M
There are currently 49 players under contract.
23 Denver Broncos $16.77 M
There are currently 49 players under contract.
24 Minnesota Vikings $14.88 M
There are currently 49 players under contract.
25 New England Patriots $10.93 M
There are currently 41 players under contract.
26 St. Louis Rams $9.61 M
There are currently 45 players under contract.
27 Seattle Seahawks $9.55 M
There are currently 44 players under contract.
28 Indianapolis Colts $8.49 M
There are currently 48 players under contract.
29 Carolina Panthers $6.05 M
There are currently 35 players under contract.
30 Atlanta Falcons $5.79 M
There are currently 52 players under contract.
31 Baltimore Ravens $5 M
There are currently 42 players under contract.
32 Washington Redskins $-20.72 M
There are currently 45 players under contract.
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@ jacksonville being that much under the cap. They could be real scary next year with a couple good signings.
As for my fins being 35mil under the cap is a great when you trying to rebuild.
As for my fins being 35mil under the cap is a great when you trying to rebuild.
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my FA list would be:
Pos Name Team Chance Availible
DE Jarad Allen KC 5%
S Ken Hamlin DAL 30%
S Gibreal Wilson NYG 25%
S Oshiomogho Atogwe STL 10%
DE Antwan Odam TEN 50%
DE Terrell Suggs BAL 40%
WR Bernard Berrian CHI 60%
WR DJ Hackett SEA 70%
WR Earnest Wilford JAX 20%
WR Bryant Johnson ARZ 80%
QB Cleo Lemon MIA 75%
QB Chris Redman ATL 90%
WR Andre Davis HOU 5%
OT Sean Locklear SEA 10%
TE LJ Smith PHI 15% - franchised...fuck, nice move philly
TE Ben Troupe TEN 70%
Pos Name Team Chance Availible
DE Jarad Allen KC 5%
S Ken Hamlin DAL 30%
S Gibreal Wilson NYG 25%
S Oshiomogho Atogwe STL 10%
DE Antwan Odam TEN 50%
DE Terrell Suggs BAL 40%
WR Bernard Berrian CHI 60%
WR DJ Hackett SEA 70%
WR Earnest Wilford JAX 20%
WR Bryant Johnson ARZ 80%
QB Cleo Lemon MIA 75%
QB Chris Redman ATL 90%
WR Andre Davis HOU 5%
OT Sean Locklear SEA 10%
TE LJ Smith PHI 15% - franchised...fuck, nice move philly
TE Ben Troupe TEN 70%
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do the chargers or jaguars need to resign anyone?eternalreflection wrote:San Diego and Jacksonville in great position for next yearGregg Popabitch wrote:i'm giddy over the fact that the giants are 25 under the cap
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all the giants have to resign is gibril, kawika, and/or torbor. at worse, giants'll still be 18 mill under.
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Merriman, McNeill, Rivers, Olshansky, Castillo and Jackson are all going to get big paydays over the next 18 monthsGregg Popabitch wrote:do the chargers or jaguars need to resign anyone?eternalreflection wrote:San Diego and Jacksonville in great position for next yearGregg Popabitch wrote:i'm giddy over the fact that the giants are 25 under the cap
love the sig btw
all the giants have to resign is gibril, kawika, and/or torbor. at worse, giants'll still be 18 mill under.
Chargers will still be significantly under cap for 2008/2009 and 2009/2010 seasons respectively
McCree is gone, Neal is most likely gone, Drayton is most likely gone so Chargers are sitting pretty
Gregg Popabitch wrote:do the chargers or jaguars need to resign anyone?eternalreflection wrote:San Diego and Jacksonville in great position for next yearGregg Popabitch wrote:i'm giddy over the fact that the giants are 25 under the cap
love the sig btw
all the giants have to resign is gibril, kawika, and/or torbor. at worse, giants'll still be 18 mill under.
Biggest name the Jags need to resign is spicer.
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damn, son. how do the jags have such good cap room?Prophecy wrote:Gregg Popabitch wrote:do the chargers or jaguars need to resign anyone?eternalreflection wrote:San Diego and Jacksonville in great position for next yearGregg Popabitch wrote:i'm giddy over the fact that the giants are 25 under the cap
love the sig btw
all the giants have to resign is gibril, kawika, and/or torbor. at worse, giants'll still be 18 mill under.
Biggest name the Jags need to resign is spicer.
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They lack a lot of flashy big names which usually demand the most $$ on their contracts. That team is a replica of Del rio Hard working role players that don't ask for much attention off the field. That team is just like the city hardworking and blue collar. If they can nab one or two impact players (they need a go to WR) they could be really really scary next year.Gregg Popabitch wrote:damn, son. how do the jags have such good cap room?Prophecy wrote:Gregg Popabitch wrote:do the chargers or jaguars need to resign anyone?eternalreflection wrote:San Diego and Jacksonville in great position for next yearGregg Popabitch wrote:i'm giddy over the fact that the giants are 25 under the cap
love the sig btw
all the giants have to resign is gibril, kawika, and/or torbor. at worse, giants'll still be 18 mill under.
Biggest name the Jags need to resign is spicer.
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Masked Terror #1 wrote:We were cranking Slayer on the underwater speakers the whole trip. Sharks love Slayer.
Reggie wrote:Bottom line is that if you're not making rap music because you love it and/or you've got something unique to say, that is, if rap is just your "hustle", then you're a fucking asshole.
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i would've thought that beast defensive tackles would make top dollar. shiiiiiiiiiyet.Prophecy wrote:They lack a lot of flashy big names which usually demand the most $$ on their contracts. That team is a replica of Del rio Hard working role players that don't ask for much attention off the field. That team is just like the city hardworking and blue collar. If they can nab one or two impact players (they need a go to WR) they could be really really scary next year.Gregg Popabitch wrote:damn, son. how do the jags have such good cap room?Prophecy wrote:Gregg Popabitch wrote:do the chargers or jaguars need to resign anyone?eternalreflection wrote: San Diego and Jacksonville in great position for next year
love the sig btw
all the giants have to resign is gibril, kawika, and/or torbor. at worse, giants'll still be 18 mill under.
Biggest name the Jags need to resign is spicer.
Oh those two are getting theirs bur really its just them and mathis. Everyone else has very cap friendly deals.Gregg Popabitch wrote:i would've thought that beast defensive tackles would make top dollar. shiiiiiiiiiyet.Prophecy wrote:They lack a lot of flashy big names which usually demand the most $$ on their contracts. That team is a replica of Del rio Hard working role players that don't ask for much attention off the field. That team is just like the city hardworking and blue collar. If they can nab one or two impact players (they need a go to WR) they could be really really scary next year.Gregg Popabitch wrote:damn, son. how do the jags have such good cap room?Prophecy wrote:Gregg Popabitch wrote: do the chargers or jaguars need to resign anyone?
all the giants have to resign is gibril, kawika, and/or torbor. at worse, giants'll still be 18 mill under.
Biggest name the Jags need to resign is spicer.
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Masked Terror #1 wrote:We were cranking Slayer on the underwater speakers the whole trip. Sharks love Slayer.
Reggie wrote:Bottom line is that if you're not making rap music because you love it and/or you've got something unique to say, that is, if rap is just your "hustle", then you're a fucking asshole.