The Hardcore & Punk Thread

nickwoj · Post by **nickwoj** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:14 pm

*except for the super horrible ones you posted, of course

odium-LSC · Post by **odium-LSC** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:54 pm

God, hustlecrowe sucks.

catfish hunter · Post by **catfish hunter** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:35 pm

patiently waiting for him to flex about how he chills with Cold World and Pits to TUI.

catfish hunter · Post by **catfish hunter** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:45 pm

Versive wrote:I've heard their style referred to as Power Violence. Fuck that

NO, Bronson is definitely not PV.
Power Violence was a brief movement in the early to mid 90s(Man Is The Bastard, Capitalist Casualties, No Comment, Spazz, Despise You etc..). Lots of bands over the years have had a strong power violence influence and the style is really just fast hardcore (And Awesome) with some grindcore tendencies or sludge thrown in. Lots of dorks out there will split hairs about what is and is not Power Violence but truth is that its more of an aesthetic than a particular way of playing instruments. Its rooted in hardcore and crossover of the 80s. Check out the early Slap A Ham, Pessimiser or Six Weeks records releases.
I listen to a pretty wide range of bands described as hardcore some new but mostly older. Charles Bronson were definitely pioneers of "fastcore" as the kids and beard stroking locust wizards like to call it.

Also to the guy who posted Assuck. I have an Assuck shirt on right now
:smugkid:

catfish hunter · Post by **catfish hunter** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:54 pm

and whoever said it was absolutely right. Hustle Crows found a new thing he likes. No one should give a fuck. I dont think anyone does. Its just annoying when a thread that was mostly us older guys talking about old school shit get bombarded with 2 pages of Ezec videos that are pretty obvious like whoever said. I mean, what the fuck are you doing kid? you ruined the thread severely.

siLLy KiD · Post by **siLLy KiD** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:42 pm

i heard somebody say grindcore....thread jack XD

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and since i don't think anyones posted ay dystopia yet....fuckin dystopia \m/ >_< \m/

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Versive · Post by **Versive** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:04 am

catfish hunter wrote:
Versive wrote:I've heard their style referred to as Power Violence. Fuck that
NO, Bronson is definitely not PV.
Power Violence was a brief movement in the early to mid 90s(Man Is The Bastard, Capitalist Casualties, No Comment, Spazz, Despise You etc..). Lots of bands over the years have had a strong power violence influence and the style is really just fast hardcore (And Awesome) with some grindcore tendencies or sludge thrown in. Lots of dorks out there will split hairs about what is and is not Power Violence but truth is that its more of an aesthetic than a particular way of playing instruments. Its rooted in hardcore and crossover of the 80s. Check out the early Slap A Ham, Pessimiser or Six Weeks records releases.
I listen to a pretty wide range of bands described as hardcore some new but mostly older. Charles Bronson were definitely pioneers of "fastcore" as the kids and beard stroking locust wizards like to call it.

Also to the guy who posted Assuck. I have an Assuck shirt on right now

I always thought of them as grindcore, don't really see the need to split hardcore into more than 2 or 3 subgenres. I just thought it was funny that a genre called 'Power Violence' even exists.

BTW, Man is the Bastard, as I've said many a time, is possibly the greatest band name ever. I used to hang out at this club called Ground Zero when I was a kid and it cracked me up every time I saw their poster on the wall.

catfish hunter · Post by **catfish hunter** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:08 am

siLLy KiD wrote:i heard somebody say grindcore....thread jack XD

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and since i don't think anyones posted ay dystopia yet....fuckin dystopia \m/ >_< \m/

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your way late in the game to come in swinging around Phobia or Dystopia or Assuck youtubes. I pretty much been championing those bands round these parts for many thousands of times.

catfish hunter · Post by **catfish hunter** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:10 am

Versive wrote:
catfish hunter wrote:
Versive wrote:I've heard their style referred to as Power Violence. Fuck that
NO, Bronson is definitely not PV.
Power Violence was a brief movement in the early to mid 90s(Man Is The Bastard, Capitalist Casualties, No Comment, Spazz, Despise You etc..). Lots of bands over the years have had a strong power violence influence and the style is really just fast hardcore (And Awesome) with some grindcore tendencies or sludge thrown in. Lots of dorks out there will split hairs about what is and is not Power Violence but truth is that its more of an aesthetic than a particular way of playing instruments. Its rooted in hardcore and crossover of the 80s. Check out the early Slap A Ham, Pessimiser or Six Weeks records releases.
I listen to a pretty wide range of bands described as hardcore some new but mostly older. Charles Bronson were definitely pioneers of "fastcore" as the kids and beard stroking locust wizards like to call it.

Also to the guy who posted Assuck. I have an Assuck shirt on right now

I always thought of them as grindcore, don't really see the need to split hardcore into more than 2 or 3 subgenres. I just thought it was funny that a genre called 'Power Violence' even exists.

BTW, Man is the Bastard, as I've said many a time, is possibly the greatest band name ever. I used to hang out at this club called Ground Zero when I was a kid and it cracked me up every time I saw their poster on the wall.

i try to avoid the sub genres but whatever it takes to form an association i suppose.

M.I.T.B were also genius when it came to branding and imagery. The Skull they used is iconic in the underground and their logo was often ripped off/tributed by lesser bands.

siLLy KiD · Post by **siLLy KiD** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:37 am

catfish hunter wrote:
siLLy KiD wrote:i heard somebody say grindcore....thread jack XD

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and since i don't think anyones posted ay dystopia yet....fuckin dystopia \m/ >_< \m/

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your way late in the game to come in swinging around Phobia or Dystopia or Assuck youtubes. I pretty much been championing those bands round these parts for many thousands of times.

not in this thread though ^__^ so stfu <3

siLLy KiD · Post by **siLLy KiD** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:39 am

anyways. Keep it movin....

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HustleCrowe · Post by **HustleCrowe** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:25 pm

HustleCrowe · Post by **HustleCrowe** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:54 am

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:01 am

Hustle Crowe STOP POSTING NU METAL in the Hardcore and Punk thread.

HustleCrowe · Post by **HustleCrowe** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:07 pm

ALASKA wrote:Hustle Crowe STOP POSTING NU METAL in the Hardcore and Punk thread.

you fuckin serious dude? Agnostic Front is far from " Nu Metal" , that's Killswitch or someshit

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:14 pm

HustleCrowe wrote:
ALASKA wrote:Hustle Crowe STOP POSTING NU METAL in the Hardcore and Punk thread.
you fuckin serious dude? Agnostic Front is far from " Nu Metal" , that's Killswitch or someshit

or everything else you posted.

DLG · Post by **DLG** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:22 pm

as far as I know agnostic front has been on some hatebreed brocore shit for years. Really derivative boring metalcore drivel.

I totally see why you dig them.

If you want shit like this Spanish/Latino, there was a numetal band in the 90s called Puya that did it a lot better.

they were actually pretty dope as I remember.

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HustleCrowe · Post by **HustleCrowe** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:26 pm

DLG wrote:as far as I know agnostic front has been on some hatebreed brocore shit for years. Really derivative boring metalcore drivel.

I totally see why you dig them.

If you want shit like this Spanish/Latino, there was a numetal band in the 90s called Puya that did it a lot better.

they were actually pretty dope as I remember.

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I like old sounding AF & new sounding AF, it's called evolution and its still hard as fuck. I believe that " bro core" bullshit was made up by elitist nerds who only want to hear one type of sound and probably play the back at shows.

HustleCrowe · Post by **HustleCrowe** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:44 pm

new interview with my boy Mike Gallo

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360 · Post by **360** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:36 pm

HustleCrowe wrote:
DLG wrote:as far as I know agnostic front has been on some hatebreed brocore shit for years. Really derivative boring metalcore drivel.

I totally see why you dig them.

If you want shit like this Spanish/Latino, there was a numetal band in the 90s called Puya that did it a lot better.

they were actually pretty dope as I remember.

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I like old sounding AF & new sounding AF, it's called evolution and its still hard as fuck. I believe that " bro core" bullshit was made up by elitist nerds who only want to hear one type of sound and probably play the back at shows.

You just proved that you know nothing about the music you claim to listen to.

DLG · Post by **DLG** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:29 pm

^you probably play the back at shows though, dude, while hustle is beastin in the pit.

catfish hunter · Post by **catfish hunter** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:04 am

Masked Terror #1 · Post by **Masked Terror #1** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:42 am

Dude, if you like hardcore, metal, mall punk, brocore or whatever the fuck, it's all good. Enjoy it.

But don't try and come off like some kind of hardcore OG when there are folks here who have been going to shows and playing in bands for more than 20 years when just a few years ago you were starting threads like these-

http://philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

http://philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

http://philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

http://philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

You participate in a scene where folks have to earn their stripes and experience and credibility are valued, I'm sure you understand.

catfish hunter · Post by **catfish hunter** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:34 am

I never saw those threads the first time around

siLLy KiD · Post by **siLLy KiD** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:12 pm

Masked Terror #1 wrote:Dude, if you like hardcore, metal, mall punk, brocore or whatever the fuck, it's all good. Enjoy it.

But don't try and come off like some kind of hardcore OG when there are folks here who have been going to shows and playing in bands for more than 20 years when just a few years ago you were starting threads like these-

http://philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

http://philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

http://philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

http://philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

You participate in a scene where folks have to earn their stripes and experience and credibility are valued, I'm sure you understand.

experience and credibility? or band t-shirts and hair styles? XD

catfish hunter · Post by **catfish hunter** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:30 pm

HARDCORE WITHOUT HAIRCUTS

b0mbs_of_death · Post by **b0mbs_of_death** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:31 pm

Stigma is a funny guy, Victim in Pain is fucking awesome. Don't really care for the new shit, but they still rock that shit live for dudes pushin 50, and I do believe Mr Stigma is a bit older than that.

siLLy KiD · Post by **siLLy KiD** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:52 pm

believe it or not, these fags were actually sick as fuck before that never gonna keep me down song....lol

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siLLy KiD · Post by **siLLy KiD** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:54 pm

I used ta knock this ep nonstop too. \m/ >_< \m/

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HustleCrowe · Post by **HustleCrowe** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:55 pm

Masked Terror #1 wrote:Dude, if you like hardcore, metal, mall punk, brocore or whatever the fuck, it's all good. Enjoy it.

But don't try and come off like some kind of hardcore OG when there are folks here who have been going to shows and playing in bands for more than 20 years when just a few years ago you were starting threads like these-

http://philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

http://philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

http://philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

http://philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

You participate in a scene where folks have to earn their stripes and experience and credibility are valued, I'm sure you understand.

I do understand, the last year or so ive been around the same people you speak of " 20 years plus on the scene" , Im not claiming to be an expert or an O.G. of anything but I love Hardcore & Punk and Ive been paying my dues like everyone does.