what rock groups make the best attempts @ hip hop ?

CRASH DDZ · Post by **CRASH DDZ** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:08 pm

Rock-Rap.. as a whole.. I hate it. The concept.. and most of the product...

Roots and the Beasties, aside (they were punk first..rap later obviously..) I never cared much for bands that rap....

gym class Heroes have several great tracks.. blood hound gang is good for a great number of laughs (both with and at) Dee Dee Ramons's Dee Dee King side project was dooty back in the day...

I always like Urban Dance Squad.

The Goats had some good joints..

The best I think I've heard would be weerd science.. Which is the drummer from avenged sevenfold's side project with an M.C. named weerd science. They debut they released is very dope to me.. very very dope.

Most of the reason I couldn't get into the Red hot Chili peppers for years was the fact that Anthony Keedis seemed like he wanted to rap rather than sing.. I've always hated his psuedo m.c. riffs.. just never cut it for me.. same with Faith No More. Sorry, I know there are some fans on here but I have always hated that band... I grew to like the chili Peppers eventually despite hating the rap attempts.. I think it was that "sweet kentucky girl ina push-up bra" line that got me to give in to liking that crew...

I guess the good guys would be:
weerd science
atmosphere (lately, live anywy)
Gym Class Heroes
Urban Dance Squad

and who else did the rock-rap justice ? Anthrax only made I'm the man and a Public Enemy cover right ? we'll call that a decent showing.. o.k ?

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:11 pm

rage when they were working together?

CRASH DDZ · Post by **CRASH DDZ** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:15 pm

incredible call I should have thought of myself.

Raphael De La Ghetto · Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:28 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:rage when they were working together?

Top 50

M:akai · Post by **M:akai** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:35 pm

m:akai wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:rage when they were working together?
Top 5

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:23 am

N.E.R.D. and Linkin Park I don't mind.

RATM is the GOAT

Too many acronyms OK STFU

Kalel · Post by **Kalel** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:48 am

Moolah wrote:N.E.R.D. and Linkin Park I don't mind.

RATM is the GOAT

Too many acronyms OK STFU

yeah, i mean in terms of record sales Linkin Park is the best band from the "nu-metal" scene still doing it. theyre doing something right and i like their sound a lot too.

i cant really think of any other bands that would fit that havent already been mentioned.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:27 am

Lately......

Funk Docta Bombay · Post by **Funk Docta Bombay** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:51 am

hate Hate HATE the Gym Class Heroes. Combines everything I dislike about emo/indie and everything I dislike about underground rap.

Ratm
Blondie
90's rock band Beastie Boys (if they count)
N.E.R.D (no rapping really)

yeah that's about it.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:21 am

how many times did debbie harry suck your dick to get on your list?

btw, i like the gym class heros even though i hate cheek piercings.

CRASH DDZ · Post by **CRASH DDZ** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:22 am

ah out of left field with Blondie.. Fab 5 freddie refrences.. I'm with that...

what about incubus ? or bands with turntables and not neccesarily rap ?

I liked incubus... when they dropped.. they stood out on radio to me...

yall said linkin but no one said Ft. whatever it is.. I can't think..
They remind me of that Butterfly song I hate.

what's up with these guys ? I only skimmed a disc of this at some record store.. I don't remember it being particularly good.. I could have just not heard the goods tho ?

slimebucato · Post by **slimebucato** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:25 am

Chili Peppers?

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:25 am

Rage was the first to mind.

Microphone Fiend, Pistol Grip Pump..

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:27 am

CRASH DDZ wrote: I liked incubus... when they dropped.. they stood out on radio to me...

incubus' first couple albums are actually very hip hop influenced. but lately they've showed alot of homosexual tendencies.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:22 pm

linkin park? it's like i don't know you mother fuckers, what's next Crazy Town?

anyway, i came to say Etown Concrete, although i don't know how well known they are outside of jersey

deftones aren't bad either

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:25 pm

Beck can rap his ass off ("Hotwax" being a prime example).

And I'd nominate Pavement, if only for "Blue Hawaiin." Malkmus' lyrics > almost all of your favorite rappers.

blastmaster · Post by **blastmaster** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:37 pm

drizzle wrote:
anyway, i came to say Etown Concrete, although i don't know how well known they are outside of jersey

Best answer so far.

CRASH DDZ · Post by **CRASH DDZ** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:55 pm

Soul Coughing ?

I consider them hip hop and d-n-b inspired before Mike Doughty went solo..

He still uses hip-ish slang now and then too..

CrazyTown..yeah that was the butterfly sonh I was talking about hating.

anyone remember the KRS/R.E.M. collabo ?

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:11 pm

i like soul coughing, but i don't know if I would consider that straight rock really, it's some kind of weird rock/funk fusion. The propellerheads remixed one of their songs, it was pretty fucking great

does Cake count? that dude kinda raps the lyrics

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:25 pm

CRASH DDZ wrote:
anyone remember the KRS/R.E.M. collabo ?

Radio Song

Steezel Weezel · Post by **Steezel Weezel** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:01 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:how many times did debbie harry suck your dick to get on your list?

"Rapture" is better than any song by almost all of the other artists listed in this thread.

I don't really like Sublime, and I'm embarrassed to namecheck a sacred cow of sandal-wearing prep school faggots, but I'm surprised no one's mentioned them yet. They exhibited a strong hip hop influence through sampling, lyrical references and subject matter. And I think some of it is, you know, decent. "Doin' Time" has a nice beat.

But as a whole, rap-rock is such a horrible disposable style of music.

And RATM should have been an instrumental band.

CRASH DDZ · Post by **CRASH DDZ** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:14 pm

Steezel Weezel wrote: I don't really like Sublime, and I'm embarrassed to namecheck a sacred cow of sandal-wearing prep school faggots, but I'm surprised no one's mentioned them yet. They exhibited a strong hip hop influence through sampling, lyrical references and subject matter. And I think some of it is, you know, decent. "Doin' Time" has a nice beat.

not to mention they did work the Pharcyde and didn't they do the song everything I know I learned form KRS-ONE ?

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:21 pm

as a post-collegiate cracker i will unashamedly admit to enjoying sublime on many occasions. if no other crakers like myself cop to this you're all full of shit, or you never been to college party

Steezel Weezel · Post by **Steezel Weezel** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:27 pm

CRASH DDZ wrote:
Steezel Weezel wrote: I don't really like Sublime, and I'm embarrassed to namecheck a sacred cow of sandal-wearing prep school faggots, but I'm surprised no one's mentioned them yet. They exhibited a strong hip hop influence through sampling, lyrical references and subject matter. And I think some of it is, you know, decent. "Doin' Time" has a nice beat.
not to mention they did work the Pharcyde and didn't they do the song everything I know I learned form KRS-ONE ?

Yeah that was them. The song is called, quite simply, "KRS-One". It's off one of their earlier albums.

TeenageMoustache · Post by **TeenageMoustache** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:23 pm

If we're just talking about one song than The Magnificent Seven by the Clash is about as good as it gets. I'm pretty sure it predates any rapping Debbie Harry did too.

How bout Subterranean Homesick Blues by Dylan? He's basically rapping on that song even though there wasn't a name for it back then.

CRASH DDZ · Post by **CRASH DDZ** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:29 pm

That dylan joint always pops up in threads like these.. great track.. but it can't be hip hop inspired if it pre-dates it..
feel me ?

GM Dizzy Skillespie · Post by **GM Dizzy Skillespie** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:56 pm

CRASH DDZ wrote:That dylan joint always pops up in threads like these.. great track.. but it can't be hip hop inspired if it pre-dates it..
feel me ?

Subterranean Home Sick Blues..... Mu Fucka!!!

I'm on the pavement
thinking about the government

how about Billy Joel - We Didn't Start the Fire.
I heard that shit was a major influence on Busy Bee.

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:12 pm

Icesickle wrote:Beck can rap his ass off

T-Wrex · Post by **T-Wrex** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:18 am

faith no more - epic

Masked Terror #1 · Post by **Masked Terror #1** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:18 am

You dis Faith No More, you dis yourself.