Saafir VS Extra Prolific

Mr. J Selectah · Post by **Mr. J Selectah** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:51 pm

Is there any parallel between these two? Besides being from the west of course...however with no relation (not even indirectly, since the battle between Saafir and Casual)...Saafir is more intriguing with his complex metaphors, delivery and production (even tho it's not his own)...but Extra P. is not your everyday all day producer either, got a style of his own, and his voice is kinda like a trademark...and another thing, both are best known for their first album, being their post-works (from 1996-99), too underrated...which one do you like the most, Saafir or Extra Prolific?

Saafir-Boxcar sessions (1994)

01 - Grab the train
02 - Swig of the stew
03 - Poke martian
04 - Playa hata
05 - Pee wee
06 - Battle drill
07 - Westside
08 - Worship the 'D'
09 - Light sleeper
10 - Rashinel
11 - Can-u-feel-me
12 - No return (goin' crazy)
13 - Big nose
14 - Just riden'
15 - Hype shit
16 - Real circus
17 - Bent
18 - The instructor
19 - Joint custody

http://www.mediafire.com/?rkjjngharu1

Saafir-Trigonometry (1996)

01 - I'm Saafir (The Sauce Nomad)
02 - Major knock
03 - Goin' home
04 - Stay hi
05 - JZ theme
06 - Broad minded
07 - Sendin-u signals
08 - Street scene
09 - Birthday suit
10 - Just ridin'
11 - In a vest
12 - Rock the show

http://www.mediafire.com/?moojngmymiw

Saafir-The hit list (1999)

01 - Hit list
02 - A dogs master
03 - Crawl before you brawl
04 - Watch how daddy ball
05 - Slip into my eyes
06 - 6 digits
07 - Not fa nuthin
08 - Pokerface
09 - 25 ta life
10 - Mask a raid
11 - Liquid ho magnet
12 - Smart bomb
13 - Bedroom bully
14 - Runnin
15 - Final thrillman

http://www.mediafire.com/?gct21zdlnk5

Extra Prolific-Like it should be (1994)

01 - Intro
02 - Brown sugar
03 - In front of the kids
04 - Is it right
05 - Sweet potato pie
06 - Cash money
07 - One motion
08 - Never changing
09 - First sermon
10 - Now what
11 - It's alright
12 - In 20 minutes
13 - Go back to school
14 - The fat outro
15 - Untitled hidden track
16 - Untitled hidden track

http://www.mediafire.com/?m21qznmm5kz

Extra Prolific-2 for 15 (1996)

01 - Now what Part. 2 Ft. Tajai & Opio
02 - You a fool
03 - The men you love
04 - Having fun Ft. Pep Love
05 - You don't know me
06 - Critics (oh my) Ft. Del
07 - Going down (ray's theme)
08 - Skimask and a mic
09 - Break it down
10 - Jump on it
11 - Searching
12 - Bonus cut

http://www.mediafire.com/?1ewygjntz2w

Extra Prolific-Master piece (1998)

01 - Intro
02 - Action set in flight
03 - Second sermon
04 - Call me
05 - I don't know why
06 - Can't reap til you sow
07 - When you hoes (remix)
08 - Old-e-commercial
09- Bo bo
10 - Going down
11 - When you hoes
12 - That's a shame

http://www.mediafire.com/?jt2z3jmazdw

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:57 pm

One of my favorite albums from the Heiro camp, on some chill-out shit. A little dated but definite replay value all the way through.

Only the first albums from these guys should be considered anyway, because their later output is kinda doo-doo. I was never able to get into "Boxcar Sessions" although I can see why some people herald it as this amazing West Coast album...I dunno.

The Saafir record, in my opinion, is more important for the scene it helped nuture than its content. It came at a time when everyone in Cali was hoo-ridin' and bandanna swangin' and shit and it flipped the script on what everybody thought a West Coast rap album was supposed to sound like, and in my mind "Boxcar Sessions" is the logical forerunner to all those early Living Legends tapes, Kemetic Suns, Bored Stiff, Nitrous Ox, Sacred Hoop, etc.

Mr. J Selectah · Post by **Mr. J Selectah** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:41 pm

Never heard of Nitrous Ox, where's he from (or they maybe)? Got any demo tapes /albuns/vinyls?...i had a Kemetic Suns LP, got search that on my files...

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:48 pm

Mr. J Selectah wrote:Never heard of Nitrous Ox, where's he from (or they maybe)? Got any demo tapes /albuns/vinyls?...i had a Kemetic Suns LP, got search that on my files...

The dudes had one tape, self-titled and it's really fucking good. It was upped in the Request Thread a minute ago.

http://www.philaflava.com/forum/viewtop ... c0e3e18848

kimani · Post by **kimani** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:01 pm

Saafir with ease, Boxcar Sessions is one of my all time favorite albums and Saafir's style/flow/lyrics to a slightly lesser though underrated extent are on some next shit to this day.

gaccu01 · Post by **gaccu01** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:58 pm

kimani wrote:Saafir with ease, Boxcar Sessions is one of my all time favorite albums and Saafir's style/flow/lyrics to a slightly lesser though underrated extent are on some next shit to this day.

Amen, brother.

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:21 pm

boxcar sessions for sure. prolific's record sucked imo.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:40 am

Saafir is probably the fan favorite among those who don't speak English, are caucasians with dreadlocks, or go for months without showering.

Everyone else understands that Extra Prolific's debut is far superior. I need to check out his other two tapes, thanks so much for posting them.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:07 am

I played my friend in a game of 1 on 1 (bball, you faggots) and the winner got to pick any CD from the losers collection. i took like it should be.

kotep · Post by **kotep** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:52 pm

hey on a sidenote i seem to have lost the heiro hobo battle in its entirety...does anyone have it?

the whole thing tho...snippets are everywhere but the entire battle is for some reason hard to find....

jvg · Post by **jvg** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:05 pm

I'd probably have appreciated Saafir more when I was younger but his delivery is just too annoying for me to listen to now. Extra Prolific.

Hobus Maguire · Post by **Hobus Maguire** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:06 am

Thun wrote:Everyone else understands that Extra Prolific's debut is far superior. I need to check out his other two tapes, thanks so much for posting them.

Co-sign that... but I woudn't bother with either of the later albums... they both pretty

IMO.

...and the dude fell of even harder later on when he "found the light" and joind a CHRISTIAN RAP DUO.

Snupe is a Christian rapper now.....
Believe it or not, Duane "Snupe" Lee is in a Christian rap duo. He now goes by the name Lee Majors.....I didn't believe it either but here is his myspace......http://www.myspace.com/whitemajors He wasn't kidding about havin' church today!!!! Oh by the way, it's pretty crappy......Not to dis anyone's beliefs but the music he's doing is downright cheesy, Christian or not.

http://www.accesshiphop.com/forums/show ... hp?t=27662
http://www.myspace.com/whitemajors

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:25 am

saafir by a mile.
i liked extra pro's debut (haven't heard any albums after that though) but boxcar sessions has some serious classic joints on it. saafirs style was ridiculous back then. his releases after "BS" left a lot to be desired.
honestly, i don't even really see why anyone would compare the two in the first place.

lightsleeper · Post by **lightsleeper** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:53 am

SAAFIR BOXCAR SESSIONS BY FAR THAT TAPE WAS SO DOPE, I RIDIN THE BUS TO BUY THE TAPE WHEN IT CAME OUT AND LISTENING TO IT ON MY WALKMAN ON THE WAY HOME AND JUST TRIPPIN ON IT, THAT ALBUM IS ON SOME OTHER....LOVE CAN YOU FEEL ME AND HYPE SHIT , AND LIGHTSLEEPER.