1998-2002 Indie Era T.R.O.Y. Challenge

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:08 pm

Everybody so far has got some killer cuts on their comps. Good shit.

aReal: 02-Godfather Don - Live And Let Die (1999)- Absolutely the most slept
on banging cut on that GFD album.
aleph: 11 Binkis- Bullitt (2002 Fondle Em)- I really wanted to use some Binkis
but it's tough to gauge what years they made certain tracks, props.
nojiveturkey: 10. Bamboo - From the Get Up (1999)- Straight banger.
Markshot: 11. J-Live - Wax Paper- One of his best tracks ever, imo.
Freezy Pazzy: 10. ED O.G. "I Feel You"- Nice Edo pick, great track.

Skeptic, you should probably throw together a quick comp for this, judging
from your picks on the last page.

kimani · Post by **kimani** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:46 pm

Verge wrote: aReal: 02-Godfather Don - Live And Let Die (1999)- Absolutely the most slept
on banging cut on that GFD album.

Word, I bump that song hard and am the only person I know who does. I wouldn't even care too much if what he said made no sense, that flow is bonkers

strategy786 · Post by **strategy786** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:55 pm

This thread is insane. I'ma sit this one out and just listen.

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:57 pm

Yeah, it's amazing how many indie joints there are to choose from and yet looking so far at the entries, there's 2 joints there I seriously considered. If Self Scientific's Return were used by everyone, it would have been justified, that shit's an anthem afaic.

Verge wrote:I really wanted to use some Binkis
but it's tough to gauge what years they made certain tracks, props.

You ain't kidding Verge. I wanted to put a Jax cut in, something from Observ or JFK. I knew I heard tons of Binkis and Jax (& Flux and Killa Kalm) way before 2002 (played on CM Famalam of course), but since he doesn't have much listed on discogs.com I could never be sure when they were actually released.

WoofY · Post by **WoofY** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:35 am

Good shit...alot joints i never knew about.
thanks for posting/sharing.
Solid comps..

I really dig that 50/50 track @ Verge

& the Binkis track @ aleph
..props, never heard them b-4..

i'm feeling aREAL's comp big time..most of those songs (about 75%) i never heard before, and i like them all..

i'ma have to make a comp real quick..

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:04 pm

Philaflava wrote:We always cover the "Golden Era" but rarely do we focus on just 4 years of the internet-post indie boom. I think we should give it a try this time.

I wanted to comment on this before, but the I think the years 1998-02 are the perfect parameters to set for this competition. Coincidentally, for a TROY era head like me this was the last gasp of good hip hop. There were actually quite a few early 2003 cuts I was sorry I couldnגt use, but by mid 03 I stopped following hip hop altogether. Not to shit on great music that came out since then, but it brings to mind a Bobbito interview I read on the internet somewhere shortly after his retirement, in which he was asked why he stopped doing radio. He replied that in his heyday (Iגm paraphrasing here), his must-play list for any given show was too long to get through, and that list got shorter and shorter in his last couple of years, until of course there was no point in doing a show. I think most old-fogy TROY members share his taste and his views on the music in the early part of the millennium.

I realize Iגm editorializing here, but for me, getting this list together and listening to the dope entries so far has been like a celebration of the last great period.

aREAL · Post by **aREAL** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:10 pm

aleph wrote:
Philaflava wrote:We always cover the "Golden Era" but rarely do we focus on just 4 years of the internet-post indie boom. I think we should give it a try this time.
I wanted to comment on this before, but the I think the years 1998-02 are the perfect parameters to set for this competition. Coincidentally, for a TROY era head like me this was the last gasp of good hip hop. There were actually quite a few early 2003 cuts I was sorry I couldnגt use, but by mid 03 I stopped following hip hop altogether. Not to shit on great music that came out since then, but it brings to mind a Bobbito interview I read on the internet somewhere shortly after his retirement, in which he was asked why he stopped doing radio. He replied that in his heyday (Iגm paraphrasing here), his must-play list for any given show was too long to get through, and that list got shorter and shorter in his last couple of years, until of course there was no point in doing a show. I think most old-fogy TROY members share his taste and his views on the music in the early part of the millennium.

I realize Iגm editorializing here, but for me, getting this list together and listening to the dope entries so far has been like a celebration of the last great period.

Yes, it's sad though, but I fully agree with you here. The sound got changed in an almost mysterious way. The cause of that I will leave un-said.

WoofY · Post by **WoofY** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:36 pm

Just got done makin' a comp..hope i ain't late .

01-Team Demolition - Odessa's on the Wheels Again (2000)
02-Vyle - Post-Paleaeontologist (2002)
03-Serengeti - Paper Plates (2002)
04-Carl Kavorkian - Scatter Brain (2002)
05-Hi-Fidel & DJ Crucial - Vega (2002)
06-Left - Wandering (2002)
07-Mozes Gunn - Bombageddon (2000)
08-Dreamweavers - Co2 (2001)
09-Greek - the Perfect Storm (2002)
10-Butterfly Swift - Pulsar Star (2002)
11-Mic. T - Supreme Delux (2000)
12-the Nothing - Who R U (1998)
13-Sprawlic Stream - Rite of Passage (1999)
14-the Writers Guild - Tear Jerka (2000)

Hope someone likes it..

http://www.mediafire.com/?mj33w412mm2[/img]

Boothe · Post by **Boothe** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:35 pm

High & Mighty - B-Boy Document (1998)
Aceyalone - Accepted Eclectic (2000)
Matt Fingaz, Punchline & Wordsworth - Just Ask Us (1999)
Mos Def & Talib Kweli - Another World (Ambivalence Remix) (1998)
Natural Resource - Heavy Loungin (1999)
Ed O.G. - Sayin' Somethin' (2000)
Polyrhythm Addicts - Big Phat Boom (1999)
Pep Love - Trinity Lost (1999)
J-Rawls - Turn It Forward (2002)
Hobo Junction - On A Scope (1999)
Swollen Members - Bless + Destroy (1999)
Joey Chavez - Reservation 4 One (1998)

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nojiveturkey · Post by **nojiveturkey** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:08 pm

areal that comp is fresh, havnt heard of some of those tracks. and Woofy lookin forward to hearing your comp, never heard of any of those artists.

Ho1ogramz · Post by **Ho1ogramz** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:03 am

aleph wrote: it brings to mind a Bobbito interview I read on the internet somewhere shortly after his retirement, in which he was asked why he stopped doing radio. He replied that in his heyday (Iגm paraphrasing here), his must-play list for any given show was too long to get through, and that list got shorter and shorter in his last couple of years, until of course there was no point in doing a show.

That was sad to read, homes.

Mark 563 · Post by **Mark 563** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:24 am

aleph wrote:
Verge wrote:I really wanted to use some Binkis
but it's tough to gauge what years they made certain tracks, props.
You ain't kidding Verge. I wanted to put a Jax cut in, something from Observ or JFK. I knew I heard tons of Binkis and Jax (& Flux and Killa Kalm) way before 2002 (played on CM Famalam of course), but since he doesn't have much listed on discogs.com I could never be sure when they were actually released.

The Binkis joint, 'Bullit' dropped on Fruitmeat (the label Bobbito set-up after Fondle Em) in 2003. I've never seen or heard of it dropping on Fondle Em.

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:23 am

Mark 563 wrote:The Binkis joint, 'Bullit' dropped on Fruitmeat (the label Bobbito set-up after Fondle Em) in 2003. I've never seen or heard of it dropping on Fondle Em.

He's right, you know. Doin' homework's a bitch...

I humbly disqualify myself.

Mark 563 · Post by **Mark 563** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:08 pm

aleph wrote:
Mark 563 wrote:The Binkis joint, 'Bullit' dropped on Fruitmeat (the label Bobbito set-up after Fondle Em) in 2003. I've never seen or heard of it dropping on Fondle Em.
He's right, you know. Doin' homework's a bitch...

I humbly disqualify myself.

Don't disqualify yourself, just switch the track.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:14 pm

^ what he said.

kartman · Post by **kartman** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:29 pm

WoofY, track 8 is broken, I dled your compilation 2 times but I can't extract it. I'd be very grateful if you could upload the track. Thanks in advance!

WoofY · Post by **WoofY** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:40 pm

kartman wrote:WoofY, track 8 is broken, I dled your compilation 2 times but I can't extract it. I'd be very grateful if you could upload the track. Thanks in advance!

Here you go sir

http://www.mediafire.com/?gzuxtl5yee2

kartman · Post by **kartman** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:42 am

thank you!!!!

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:22 am

Mark 563 wrote:Don't disqualify yourself, just switch the track.

Philaflava wrote:^ what he said.

Oh word?

Thanks!

Amended list:

01 DJ Spinna- Joc Max Preface (1999 Rawkus)
02 Encore- It's Time (Ode to Breaking Atoms) (2001 Brick)
03 Beans- Nude Paper (2000 Mo'Wax)
04 Murs- 24 Hrs W/a G (2000 Veritech)
05 Unspoken Heard- The Music (1999 Seven Heads)
06 Jedi Son of Spock- The Journey (1998 Head Bop)
07 Dr. Oop- Deep Impact (1998 PUTS)
08 All Natural- It's OK (1998 All Natural)
09 Stronghold- Big As Ya Mouth (2001 Stronghold)
10 Tame One- Torture Chamber (1999 Fat Beats)
11 Styles Of Beyond- Ambiguous Figures (1999 Loosegroove)
12 Sadat X- Minneapolis (2002 Up Above)
13 Pumpkinhead- Dynamic (remix) (1998 Makin')

For those who already downloaded original .zip, pls replace track 11 Binkis- Bullitt, with

11 Styles Of Beyond- Ambiguous Figures (1999)
http://www.mediafire.com/?2nlm4hmwnzm

WoofY · Post by **WoofY** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:08 pm

aleph wrote:
Mark 563 wrote:Don't disqualify yourself, just switch the track.

Philaflava wrote:^ what he said.
Oh word? Thanks!

Amended list:

01 DJ Spinna- Joc Max Preface (1999 Rawkus)
02 Encore- It's Time (Ode to Breaking Atoms) (2001 Brick)
03 Beans- Nude Paper (2000 Mo'Wax)
04 Murs- 24 Hrs W/a G (2000 Veritech)
05 Unspoken Heard- The Music (1999 Seven Heads)
06 Jedi Son of Spock- The Journey (1998 Head Bop)
07 Dr. Oop- Deep Impact (1998 PUTS)
08 All Natural- It's OK (1998 All Natural)
09 Stronghold- Big As Ya Mouth (2001 Stronghold)
10 Tame One- Torture Chamber (1999 Fat Beats)
11 Styles Of Beyond- Ambiguous Figures (1999 Loosegroove)
12 Sadat X- Minneapolis (2002 Up Above)
13 Pumpkinhead- Dynamic (remix) (1998 Makin')

For those who already downloaded original .zip, pls replace track 11 Binkis- Bullitt, with

11 Styles Of Beyond- Ambiguous Figures (1999)
http://www.mediafire.com/?2nlm4hmwnzm

dope joints on your comp ...the DJ Spinna, Jedi , Stronghold tracks especially..

WoofY · Post by **WoofY** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:12 pm

nojiveturkey wrote:areal that comp is fresh, havnt heard of some of those tracks. and Woofy lookin forward to hearing your comp, never heard of any of those artists.

Thanks..that's what i wanted to bring to the table.. unheard of shit..

i wanted to put a cre-8 song on my comp too..haha.. it's a real nice ep/album..

say..since you posted that Bamboo - from the get up ...u wouldn't have the VLS/12" of that track..especially the instrumental to it..

Markshot · Post by **Markshot** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:45 pm

Could someone please check does my link work properly pls.

WoofY · Post by **WoofY** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:52 pm

Markshot wrote:Could someone please check does my link work properly pls.

Server not found

I dl'd it b-4... u gotta L Roneous track on your comp..i gotta Dreamweaver (L Roneous & Elusive) track on my comp.. check it out..if you haven't yet..

Markshot · Post by **Markshot** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:09 pm

Thanks, i will re-up it tomorrow.
I haven't download any comp yet, cause i've been super busy this week and off from teh computer.

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:11 am

There was a lot of crazy unheard shit to learn from every mix here, but aREAL and WoofY deserve some sort of prize for having the deepest HD crates... Looks like I have the shallowest, ankle deep really.

aREAL · Post by **aREAL** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:12 pm

Heheh, thanks aleph! You do deserve the most props though for all the insane demos you've dug up.

That's what's up!

On topic: What happens now with this thread? Would suck if it just died out..

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:01 am

I think starting monday we should have a poll. Every one should take the weekend to download the mixes and compare.

Markshot · Post by **Markshot** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:46 am

My download link is back in business.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:15 am

aleph wrote:
Mark 563 wrote:Don't disqualify yourself, just switch the track.

Philaflava wrote:^ what he said.
Oh word? Thanks!

Amended list:

01 DJ Spinna- Joc Max Preface (1999 Rawkus)
02 Encore- It's Time (Ode to Breaking Atoms) (2001 Brick)
03 Beans- Nude Paper (2000 Mo'Wax)
04 Murs- 24 Hrs W/a G (2000 Veritech)
05 Unspoken Heard- The Music (1999 Seven Heads)
06 Jedi Son of Spock- The Journey (1998 Head Bop)
07 Dr. Oop- Deep Impact (1998 PUTS)
08 All Natural- It's OK (1998 All Natural)
09 Stronghold- Big As Ya Mouth (2001 Stronghold)
10 Tame One- Torture Chamber (1999 Fat Beats)
11 Styles Of Beyond- Ambiguous Figures (1999 Loosegroove)
12 Sadat X- Minneapolis (2002 Up Above)
13 Pumpkinhead- Dynamic (remix) (1998 Makin')

For those who already downloaded original .zip, pls replace track 11 Binkis- Bullitt, with

11 Styles Of Beyond- Ambiguous Figures (1999)
http://www.mediafire.com/?2nlm4hmwnzm

Where is the mix link? This is just for track #11. Page 1 says go to page 2.

clark bent · Post by **clark bent** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:46 am

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foreign legion - opvernite success
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sound providers - get down
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