HIP HOP HOLY GRAILS WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SEARCHING FOR

DJMIKENICE · Post by **DJMIKENICE** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:34 am

ok some of the most coveted tracks that i have been searching for forever are

BIG ONYX TREACH JESSE WEST "FLIP THAT SHIT"
BIG OLD DIRTY LS JESSE WEST "BIG UP ITS A STICK UP"
FOR MY PEEPS original version with RA THE RUGGED MAN

RAKIM "BREAK THE WRATH IN HALF" ive heard numerous rumors this was actually the track Hyptnotic which i have "and i dont need to sniff kane to get raw"

RAKIM "NEW YORK" produced by Muggs for OH MY GOD
the 12 tracks produced by Premier for OH MY GOD

LORD FINESSE & BIG L "SET IT OFF TROOP" original version

LAST EMPEROR & B REAL track produced by Muggs for Emps album on aftermath that never dropped

BITCH HATERS CLUB ALBUM - recorded tracks by NAS G RAP & AYKENELE

RAKIM & DJ HOMICIDE "LOVE BROTHERS" basement tape

BIG & OLD GOLD BROTHERS "DJ 50 GRAN basement tape (this definitely exist my boy Ty had this when we worked at Upstairs Records)

BIG "CROOK FROM THE BROOK"

CAGE PONTIOUS PILATE tracks and the freestyle at Stretch's crib tripping on acid. I would speak to Cage on the phone and he would play me shit for hours

NECRO "suck me off" an RnB record Necro was working on he had some chick singing the chorus "suck me off suck me off" I had this on a cd with some other shit Necro had dubbed for me but can not find this for the life of me (i did however locate the master tape from the 50 mc's cracking the surface tape and have the acapella of the freestyle)

add on

Galvatron78 · Post by **Galvatron78** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:48 am

- Saafir's "Primetime after 7" and "You a Mark!!"

- The Original Version of the Whoridas "True Playaz In The Game"

- Young Zee's version of "How i could just kill a man"

step one · Post by **step one** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:37 am

i've got radio rips but would love good quality versions of:

Dogg Pound 'Niggaz Dont Give A Fuck' remix
Charlie Brown 'Whatcha Gonna Do For Me'
LL Cool J 'Year Of The Hip Hop'

TheBigSleep · Post by **TheBigSleep** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:57 am

DJMIKENICE wrote:ok some of the most coveted tracks that i have been searching for forever are

BIG ONYX TREACH JESSE WEST "FLIP THAT SHIT"
BIG OLD DIRTY LS JESSE WEST "BIG UP ITS A STICK UP"
FOR MY PEEPS original version with RA THE RUGGED MAN

RAKIM "BREAK THE WRATH IN HALF" ive heard numerous rumors this was actually the track Hyptnotic which i have "and i dont need to sniff kane to get raw"

RAKIM "NEW YORK" produced by Muggs for OH MY GOD
the 12 tracks produced by Premier for OH MY GOD

LORD FINESSE & BIG L "SET IT OFF TROOP" original version

BITCH HATERS CLUB ALBUM - recorded tracks by NAS G RAP & AYKENELE

RAKIM & DJ HOMICIDE "LOVE BROTHERS" basement tape

BIG & OLD GOLD BROTHERS "DJ 50 GRAN basement tape (this definitely exist my boy Ty had this when we worked at Upstairs Records)

BIG "CROOK FROM THE BROOK"

add on

Yeah man, I know you've been looking for these (especially the Biggie joints) for a while now. And I sure wouldn't mind hearing any / all of them.

R.A. the Rugged Man said that there's an early nineties "lost song" with him, Biggie and Akinyele, that isn't the original version of For My Peeps though, is it?

Break the Wrath in Half was (as far as I know) just four bars from Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em that Ra scrapped after him and Kane squashed the beef.

I definitely want to hear more tracks from the Oh My God! project, After You Die and Welcome to the Hood were ill.

And I've wanted to hear that Love Brothers (and Bitch Haters Club) material ever since I first heard about it.

It looks like the original version of Set It Off Troop is the only one on here that I've actually been searching for longer than you, though of course you are the one with the connections to possibly make it happen. Finesse has it under lock and key, get at him and make 'em drop this historical track!

Good idea for a thread. I have some (additional) grails of my own that I'll post up later.

DJMIKENICE · Post by **DJMIKENICE** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:21 am

R.A. the Rugged Man said that there's an early nineties "lost song" with him, Biggie and Akinyele, that isn't the original version of For My Peeps though, is it?

YES THATS IT

battlecatmeowstab212 · Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:56 am

Cam'Ron - "Oh What a Night"

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:06 pm

Back around 96 there was a rumor j-ro, aceyalone and saafir recorded a few tracks, an EP's worth. I'd like to hear that.

step one · Post by **step one** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:33 pm

the Dr Dre/Ice Cube collabo LP 'Helter Skelter' - anyone know if anything as ever even recorded for this?

stype_ones · Post by **stype_ones** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:42 pm

Any of the unreleased Tribe stuff that is in the JIVE vaults. Would have loved to have heard the other unreleased Tribe stuff and Tip and Dilla stuff that was lost in the fire.

Supposedly Jay and Nas had recorded a few tracks for HHID other than Black Republican, I would love to hear those.

Basically, any unreleased or early stuff from any of my favorite artists.

Hip_Hop_Head_SF · Post by **Hip_Hop_Head_SF** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:21 pm

DJMIKENICE wrote: LAST EMPEROR & B REAL track produced by Muggs for Emps album on aftermath that never dropped

My man DJ 3rd Rail out in Chicago has the promo CD of the whole album on Aftermath. I highly doubt he'd rip it though, he's not a mp3 kinda guy... dude is STRICTLY vinyl.

Hit him up and give it a shot... Dj3rdRail@gmail.com

His website http://dj3rdrail.yuku.com seems to not be working at the moment for whatever reason...

RAZAH CUTZ · Post by **RAZAH CUTZ** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:25 pm

Main Source - Breaking Atoms on Cassette

D.I.T.C. - Worldwide on Cassette

O.G.C. - The Storm on Cassette

djpos2?! · Post by **djpos2?!** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:55 pm

RAZAH CUTZ wrote:
O.G.C. - The Storm on Cassette

just curious, why would you like to have this on cassette?

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:18 pm

Thanks for asking, Mike. Reminded me of this article:

http://www.unkut.com/2008/07/tracks-tha ... idney-for/

I certainly want to hear everything in this and Mike's list. A lot of the comments below the unkut list sound incredible too. I see some TROY heads (Mike, step one) left comments including me, under my then-alias ozu. Partial wishlist:

ORGANIZED KONFUSION- RACK EM UP
Prince Po joint recorded for their 1st LP.

"'Rack 'Em Up' is about the game of pool talked about in a real-life situation- how you got a white ball phukking up all the colored balls and the eight-ball is in the middle. Building off that."- Pharoahe Monch, RapPages, Oct. 1993

GODFATHER DON- PRE-HAZARDOUS DEMO PROD. BY BOOSTIN KEV
Mentioned by Don in the DWG interview.
RZA/LAST EMPEROR- HE LIVES (EL-P REMIX)
Allegedly rejected by Rawkus for release.
AUDIO TWO- FIRST DEAD INDIAN LP
Nuff said.

Roy Johnson · Post by **Roy Johnson** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:33 pm

aleph wrote:ORGANIZED KONFUSION- RACK EM UP
Prince Po joint recorded for their 1st LP.
"'Rack 'Em Up' is about the game of pool talked about in a real-life situation- how you got a white ball phukking up all the colored balls and the eight-ball is in the middle. Building off that."- Pharoahe Monch, RapPages, Oct. 1993

Damn, I hope this surfaces at some point.

I'd kill for full versions of these Latee tracks -

$100 Auction Demo Tape Sampler
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aleph · Post by **aleph** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:37 pm

Roy Johnson wrote:I'd kill for full versions of these Latee tracks -

$100 Auction Demo Tape Sampler
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Aaaaargh, why do they torture us like this??

Roy Johnson · Post by **Roy Johnson** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:45 pm

aleph wrote:
Roy Johnson wrote:I'd kill for full versions of these Latee tracks -

$100 Auction Demo Tape Sampler
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Aaaaargh, why do they torture us like this??

Back in 2008, I contacted the dude who sold the tape on ebay for $100. I couldn't get him to hook me up with a CDR for less than $75, so I just gave up. I'm kinda regretting that decision right now.

king beef · Post by **king beef** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:52 pm

DJ Roc Raida

Beastmaster Malt Liquor commercials!

kotep · Post by **kotep** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:11 pm

Galvatron78 wrote:- Saafir's "Primetime after 7" and "You a Mark!!"

- The Original Version of the Whoridas "True Playaz In The Game"

where are those saafir tracks from? and what time period?

kotep · Post by **kotep** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:14 pm

Jonny wrote:Back around 96 there was a rumor j-ro, aceyalone and saafir recorded a few tracks, an EP's worth. I'd like to hear that.

wow never heard of that?!?!?!

kotep · Post by **kotep** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:15 pm

ORGANIZED KONFUSION- RACK EM UP
Prince Po joint recorded for their 1st LP.

i would kill for that OK track

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:33 pm

Roy Johnson wrote:Back in 2008, I contacted the dude who sold the tape on ebay for $100. I couldn't get him to hook me up with a CDR for less than $75, so I just gave up. I'm kinda regretting that decision right now.

For what it's worth, I would not have wanted to part with $75 for a CDR....and I might have regretted it too. Hope that helps.

kotep wrote:ORGANIZED KONFUSION- RACK EM UP
Prince Po joint recorded for their 1st LP.

i would kill for that OK track

You know, in that same interview Bobbito asks them about the "songs upon songs that never get put out", to which Poetry replies "We just trashed another song today, in fact."

They also go on to say that they were supposed to do a song w/Redman & K-Solo and one w/Dres, and one w/Q-Tip which I guess turned out to be Let's Organize.

Boothe · Post by **Boothe** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:10 pm

Jungle Brothers - Crazy Wisdom Masters

01. Simple As That
02. Good Ole Hype Shit
03. Book of Rhyme Pages
04. JB's Coming Through
05. Spittin' Wicked Randomness
06. Spark a New Flame
07. Mysterious Monkey
08. Battle Show
09. I'm In Love With Indica
10. Ra Ra Kid
11. Peace Ahki
12. Trials of An Era
13. Book of Rhyme Pages (remix)
14. Troopin' on the Down Low
15. Hedz At Company Z

http://www.silent-watcher.net/billlaswe ... sters.html

I know most of the tracks are out there, but would love to hear it in its entirety.

stype_ones · Post by **stype_ones** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:21 pm

I also want to add that I would love to hear that third unreleased JVC album that T-Ray produced.

Andyman187 · Post by **Andyman187** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:35 pm

Bas Blasta - The Mouth That Roared
The Whooliganz - Make Way For The W
K-OS - Musical Essense (Test Press 12")
ATCQ - Low End Theory (Instrumental Show Vinyl 2LP)
ATCQ - Midnight Marauders (Instrumental Show Vinyl 2LP)
Digable Planet's - Reachin' (Instrumental Show Vinyl 2LP)
Black Moon - Enta Da Stage (Instrumental Show Vinyl)
De La Soul - First 4LP Instrumental Show Vinyl's
Dr Dre - The Chronic (Instrumental Show Vinyl)
Method Man - Tical (Instrumentals)

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:37 pm

pradadon wrote:I also want to add that I would love to hear that third unreleased JVC album that T-Ray produced.

Hah, that's exactly what I was going to say I started up a JVC Force Appreciation group at Facebook and AJ Rok said he his going to hit us off with some goodies soon

Also co-sign everything else in this thread...

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:45 pm

Boothe wrote:Jungle Brothers - Crazy Wisdom Masters

01. Simple As That
02. Good Ole Hype Shit
03. Book of Rhyme Pages
04. JB's Coming Through
05. Spittin' Wicked Randomness
06. Spark a New Flame
07. Mysterious Monkey
08. Battle Show
09. I'm In Love With Indica
10. Ra Ra Kid
11. Peace Ahki
12. Trials of An Era
13. Book of Rhyme Pages (remix)
14. Troopin' on the Down Low
15. Hedz At Company Z

http://www.silent-watcher.net/billlaswe ... sters.html

I know most of the tracks are out there, but would love to hear it in its entirety.

hmmmm...interesting compared to J-Beez Wit The Remedy

40 Below Trooper
Book Of Rhyme Pages
My Jimmy Weighs A Ton
Good Ole Hype Shit
Blahbludify
Spark A New Flame
I'm In Love With Indica
Simple As That
All I Think About Is You
Good Lookin' Out
JB's Comin' Through
Spittin' Wicked Randomness
For The Headz At Company Z
Man Made Material

I think "Troopin' on the Down Low" became "40 Below Trooper"

Hobus Maguire · Post by **Hobus Maguire** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:10 am

Poor Righteous Teachers - Declaration Of Independence

Original Scheduled Release Date "Spring 2001 / but it was never officially released"
Label: Exit 7a Records
"It was finally made for available for download only in January 2007 at http://www.intelligentmuzik.com"

Track Listing:
Dangerous
Urban Me
Just Live
What Ever U Wish
Dis Money
This Lie
Losinג My Religion
Itגs Love
Nuttinג NU
2 Marvelous 4 Wordz

http://freshpressmedia.com/images/wise.htm

We got tha next album that's gonna come out off tha label is a Wise Intelligent solo joint and this record is a style record. It's like every rhyme style ever done in hip hop is on this record. It's like every MC is in me on this record and it's a real crazy record that no other rapper has been able to attempt or achieve or even fathom in his mind to try and do. It's every rhyme style, I kid you not. It's everything that Wise Intelligent and PRT has ever done on one compact disc that will be out in September. But before that is released, we put together some exclusive jointz that PRT had composed between 1996 and 2000 that we never put on any records. Alot of stuff is older music and some of it is newer music. It's called "The declaration of Independence." Just look for tha CD with tha food stamp on it. It's a dollar food stamp joint and this record right here is dear to my heart. If you listen to tha content of each song, you will understand why it's very close to me. We gonna bring it out there when we come Tonight Thursday August 5th 2004 at tha Gabah in Hollywood Ca. So that CD will be available for purchase. A new PRT album will also be happening soon. You know right now everybody is airing out their heads and clearing their minds right now. But it will happen and it will be on tha Intelligentmuzik label so it's all good right now. I wouldn't wanna be no other rapper but me right now.

http://www.thaformula.com/wise_intelligent_of_prt.htm

grimlok316 · Post by **grimlok316** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:56 am

a reasonable doubt era jay-z track called THE HURT produced by no i.d..apparently its one of the best things he ever did,its the actual story of when he shot his brother,i asked ski about it on twitter & he said it was amazing

also,the smith bros (smooth & trigga) album,i heard some of it in 99 when a friend of ine was on tommy boy street team

lord have mercy lp as well..is this out there anywhere?

Galvatron78 · Post by **Galvatron78** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:19 am

kotep wrote:
Galvatron78 wrote:- Saafir's "Primetime after 7" and "You a Mark!!"

- The Original Version of the Whoridas "True Playaz In The Game"

where are those saafir tracks from? and what time period?

92-93' ish

Freezy Pazzy · Post by **Freezy Pazzy** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:26 am

Hobus Maguire wrote:we put together some exclusive jointz that PRT had composed between 1996 and 2000 that we never put on any records. Alot of stuff is older music and some of it is newer music.

I always wondered if this "Lost tapes"-type project was the same thing they dropped in 2006 :

http://www.discogs.com/Poor-Righteous-T ... se/1609415

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