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Bobbito demo battle ca. 1998

Demo#1: Sneakers
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53%
Demo#2: Beirut
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47%
 
Total votes: 15

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You Are There: Bobbito demo battle ca. 1998

Post by aleph »

While weג€™re waiting for more S&B shows, letג€™s go back for a sec and make believe itג€™s 1998. Here are two demos that competed against each other one night that year, placed in the order Bob played them.

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Metro Positron* (D.C.)- Sneakers
http://www.divshare.com/download/10981326-044
* closest spelling of the artists' name as pronounced by Bobbito

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O.R.B. (Seattle)- Beirut
http://www.divshare.com/download/10981328-c63

For those who heard these and remember them (i.e. Verge), pretend that youג€™re hearing them for the first time. Forget who you remember or think won back then, what do you think of each of them with 2010 ears? And of course those who ARE hearing them w/virgin ears, who wins? Vote by leaving a comment.

This also serves as a sneak preview of a comp of miscellaneous radio rips from various shows that I'll be posting soon.

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Re: You Are There: Bobbito demo battle ca. 1998

Post by Jaz »

aleph wrote:While weג€™re waiting for more S&B shows, letג€™s go back for a sec and make believe itג€™s 1998. Here are two demos that competed against each other one night that year, placed in the order Bob played them.

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Metro Positron* (D.C.)- Sneakers
http://www.divshare.com/download/10981326-044
* closest spelling of the artists' name as pronounced by Bobbito

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O.R.B. (Seattle)- Beirut
http://www.divshare.com/download/10981328-c63

For those who heard these and remember them (i.e. Verge), pretend that youג€™re hearing them for the first time. Forget who you remember or think won back then, what do you think of each of them with 2010 ears? And of course those who ARE hearing them w/virgin ears, who wins? Vote by leaving a comment.

This also serves as a sneak preview of a comp of miscellaneous radio rips from various shows that I'll be posting soon.
Both are dope, but I dig the second joint more, thanks for these aleph.

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Post by RAZAH CUTZ »

wow, this is a total toss up, both are crazy nice...

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Post by Odnet »

The first one takes it for me. I love electric piano loops and the lazy, semi-monotone type of flow like that. Great track.

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Post by Roy Johnson »

I'd end up voting for track #1. Now I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out where that sample is from - it sounds so familiar.
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Post by Verge »

:bow: :bow:
I actually wasn't around through most of 98 and all of 99 so I never heard
these. My boy had caught me up on a lot of stuff in 01 that I missed in these
years, but he must have missed this night.

This is a tough one. Both the beats are great. I would go with the first one if I
was more of a sneaker head, but I'm not, so I'll go with Beirut.
Thanks again aleph.

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Post by Verge »

Roy Johnson wrote:I'd end up voting for track #1. Now I'm wracking my
brain trying to figure out where that sample is from - it sounds so
familiar.
Sounds like something Hiero would have used. Maybe a Bob James sample?


Poll added(pause)...vote

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Post by Ho1ogramz »

Ahh... You know I love the phrasing of this post, aleph. Let's pretend we're (back) in the 90s listening live. :grin:

Hmm, I like the concept of the first one and it has a dope melody too. I dig the Nas/Biggie vocal cuts at the end!

Vocal-wise I dig the second one and it has a nice flow to it.

I think the second track won that night.

More threads like these please!
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Post by Hip_Hop_Head_SF »

aleph wrote:letג€™s go back for a sec and make believe itג€™s 1998.
hahaha I do this all the time, especially when listening to old radio shows...


Wow, this is a toss up. I'll go with... O.R.B "Beirut", but barely.

Roy, that sample reminds of the Souls Of Mischief demo song "Cab Fare"
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Post by aleph »

Good lookin for creating the poll thingy Verge! :cheers:

Thanks voters, very interesting feedback so far. I'm too close to both these demos, so I can't decide either way. Back then it seemed like a shoo-in for one of them, but now it's pretty even.

The Sneakers joint does sound something like Bob James.

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Post by jay »

Great thread! Wasn't really feeling the mc on the first track but the scratched hook is nice. 2nd track is just a lot more polished so that probably helped him out on the first couple of listens.

Good stuff

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Post by aREAL »

Tough choice - Both are really good joints but when I re-listened I have to pick the first one.

Great poll! More of these demo polls please!

:cheers:

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Post by CrimeFamily »

The Beirut Joint is top-notch.

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Post by Verge »

aREAL wrote:Great poll! More of these demo polls please!
Yeah, aleph, you're more than welcome to make threads like this whenever you feel like it. Just let me know and I'll throw in the vote options.

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Post by jazztomovethatass »

awesome thread. the "Sneakers" joint is mad nice. dug the beirut too, but that piano sample had me going.. More threads like these would be obliged.

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Post by STAM »

Thats Right! both are dope, both new and both dope! excelent :cheers: :bow:

edit: aight... ; ) my voice go for "sneakers" and this piano..... :megaman: :megaman:

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Post by dochiphop »

i gotta vote for metro positron. harder beat. both nice though. thx

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Post by aleph »

Well, the numbers say Beirut wins, but the comments make it look more like a tie. Which is appropriate bc the demos couldn't be more dissimilar. I enjoyed reading what everyone liked about each one.
Verge wrote:
aREAL wrote:Great poll! More of these demo polls please!
Yeah, aleph, you're more than welcome to make threads like this whenever you feel like it. Just let me know and I'll throw in the vote options.
Thanks for the kind words, fellow fiends, but I'm not sure I recorded any more battles where Bobbito or the artists themselves didn't eventually release the demos, so this may be it. (Damn) I'll definitely look around tho.

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Post by Roy Johnson »

aleph wrote:Well, the numbers say Beirut wins, but the comments make it look more like a tie. Which is appropriate bc the demos couldn't be more dissimilar. I enjoyed reading what everyone liked about each one.
Verge wrote:
aREAL wrote:Great poll! More of these demo polls please!
Yeah, aleph, you're more than welcome to make threads like this whenever you feel like it. Just let me know and I'll throw in the vote options.
Thanks for the kind words, fellow fiends, but I'm not sure I recorded any more battles where Bobbito or the artists themselves didn't eventually release the demos, so this may be it. (Damn) I'll definitely look around tho.
Fuck it, you should just do random demo battles, because this is fun as hell.
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Post by Verge »

^That's what I was gonna say. It doesn't have to be the exact battles that
took place on the shows.
Though I do think we have the demos from a night in 99 where it was 4 of them:
I Walk A Line
Binkis joint
Back Alley demo
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Post by aleph »

Roy, Verge, I too was thinking this would be the only way I can keep doing it except for the fact that unfortunately I'm not a bottomless demo well. My supply is drying up! I came across a 94-95 tape that listed a few demos that I crossed out on the tape cover, meaning I erased them out of existence. Anybody heard of K-Style? Big Mass? DMO? That pissed me off, I should've blacked out those titles completely, rendering them unreadable.

Yeah, Verge there was that battle between three of em: Showtime's I Walk The Line, Dysfunctional Fam's Feelin Da Highs, and returning champ Binkis' Beat You In The Head. Which one is the Back Alley demo?

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aleph wrote: Yeah, Verge there was that battle between three of em: Showtime's I Walk The Line, Dysfunctional Fam's Feelin Da Highs, and returning champ Binkis' Beat You In The Head. Which one is the Back Alley demo?
Oh I thought that was the same night with the Back Alley(pause) demo.
I hate to get props wrong, but I'm pretty sure this was a Digital Stimulation upload.
Back Alley Demo
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http://www.divshare.com/download/10999184-0e8

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Post by aleph »

Verge wrote:Oh I thought that was the same night with the Back Alley(pause) demo.
I hate to get props wrong, but I'm pretty sure this was a Digital Stimulation upload.
Back Alley Demo
<object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/sh ... on=8,0,0,0" width="335" height="28" id="divplaylist"><param name="movie" value="http://www.divshare.com/flash/playlist? ... 999184-0e8" /><embed src="http://www.divshare.com/flash/playlist? ... 999184-0e8" width="335" height="28" name="divplaylist" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashpl ... d></object>
http://www.divshare.com/download/10999184-0e8
Truth be told, if I don't remember it, doesn't mean that it wasn't played that nite. Only that I didn't like it enough to keep it. It's kinda fly now.
If people are game, we could post all 4.

As far as this battle goes, looks like we have a tie!

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Post by aleph »

Gotdam now you guys got me rethinking the way I should present my stuff. I was gonna post a zip of about 14 ripped joints, some of which are demos but should I do it this way instead, as a competition? I donג€™t knowג€¦

I don't have the audio of Bob announcing the winner, but I'm sure that Sneakers won that nite. I think it was a personal fave of Bob's, perhaps even his fave joint about sneakers and sneakerheads. Aside from being dope, it had the added gimmick of being topical which listeners went for. Beirut was probably too subtle for heads to get into for that time...

Here's the entire audio for the battle
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http://www.divshare.com/download/11008700-c8a
Lord Sear adds his special coda for Sneakers :lol:

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Post by kimani »

Getting around to these for the first time on a Sunday morning, and though both have nice mellow loops, Sneakers is obviously more of a coolout joint and I'm feeling the emcee's style more right now (even though the O.R.B. mc is better). Sneakers.

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Post by aleph »

^^Sneakers definitely has a more lo-fi DIY quality and the mc kinda reminds me of a sedated Y@k Ballz.

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