Hip Hop Super Soldiers: Help Needed

TheBigSleep · Post by **TheBigSleep** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:41 pm

And Snaggapuss a.k.a. Snaggdadon also went by both Pooch and Pucci, though those might've just been nicknames from before he rhymed.

Yeah Verge, I'm pretty sure that's a different Terra.

kevin beacham · Post by **kevin beacham** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:54 pm

aleph wrote:Two more:

Kenyatta a/k/a Kid Crumbs. Aside from early work w/the Roots, there's a "single" which apparently was only released as video.
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Also, Spoon of Iodine, Good Life legend.
Actually Spoon had a couple of semifamous demos, so I don't know if he counts in this context.

this Kenyatta is dope. What did he do with The Roots? Also, besides "I Bash" and OG "Dollar Bill" what other Spoon demos are out there or rumored to be...

kevin beacham · Post by **kevin beacham** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:19 pm

Jaz wrote:Krisch

What about Laquan, is he a different from the one who put out "Notes Of A Native Son" in '90 and later another album on Rap-A-Lot as Poppa LQ?
same dude.

how do you know for sure on this one? I've tried listening to the Laquan album '90 back to back with that Mad Kap and none of those dudes sound like him. Which dude is he on the Mad Kap track? Maybe my ears are wrecked from rap over load...ha

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:35 pm

kevin beacham wrote:this Kenyatta is dope. What did he do with The Roots? Also, besides "I Bash" and OG "Dollar Bill" what other Spoon demos are out there or rumored to be...

Kenyatta/Kid Crumbs was down with The Square Roots for Organix (i.e. last verse on "Grits")

While I was searching for more info on Spoon, I found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPUWg9tFMro (Eric = Spoon)

Courtesy Omid's We Came From Beyond mix.

Thanks Kev for motivating these excavations. I never really paid attn to dudes like Kenyatta until this. I think he's ill too (although he obviously never went to a dentist in his life).

kevin beacham · Post by **kevin beacham** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:43 pm

Verge wrote:da Gas Chamber, I don't know how you would approach that one. Yeah, he
was on the Who Lit Dat Shit 12", but it was a split 12" and the A side was his.

II Unorthodox was on kind of a split 12" with another Juice, but I believe it
was from the D n D project, so I don't know how you would look at that one:
http://www.discogs.com/2-Unorthodox-Jui ... ter/176979
EDIT: sorry, didn't see Krisch already mention that one.

Ital The Ruffian had an EP and I believe an unofficial album:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Ital+Tha+Ruffian
EDIT: shit, I see you already noticed this one.

Joe Sinista I'm guessing was also on "Krunchtime", not sure if I ever heard that:
http://www.discogs.com/Terminator-X-God ... ase/299927

Are you sure that Keith Keith isn't Keith Murray? I haven't heard that Fat
Joe song in years but I know he went by Keefy Keef for a record or 2 in the early 90's.

Raggedy Man had demos, unless I'm confusing him. Wonderful world of gravitation? "Raggedy man from the gravity clan"?

Serge: Not positive if this is the same guy that has been mentioned a few times here lately. He battled Freshco in like 91? Had a demo or two from Bobbito show?
Either way, I don't think he had any records.

Shawn Black = Black Attack

Tabb: Not sure, but there was a guy named Big Tabb who had a record or two, if you wanna check if he sounds similar, from Philly:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Big+Tabb
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Tommy Gun: I believe there was also a Tommy Gun in MIC or on a DOOM song or something. Same dude, I don't know.

Thanks for throwing "Vandemator" on there. I been wondering who he was
for years. My first guess was that maybe it was Neek The Exotic, but he does not sound like him.

OK:
-I took of Da Gas Chamber. Ital, Shawn Black
-I'm pretty sure keith keith is from the Funky 4, can't imagine there being
2 Keith keith's in the world. Plus the title is Bronx related where they
are from and Fat Joe is definitely a Old School head.
-Raggedy Man: the only release I know is the feature on Chino's
"Waiting to Exhale"...then just demos, sampler, freestyles, and
apparently ghost writing for Biz Markie
-Serge is a battle rapper from Cleveland. He's best known for being in
the New Music Seminar for a few years and shining but never winning.
He is on the Brand Nubian song and that's all I know. I have a contact
to possibly reach him though
-Tommy Gunn: was a Def Squad dude but he passed away right after
that Insomnia compilation he was on
-Tabb on my list is prob a different dude he was down with a bunch of
LA dudes

DJMIKENICE · Post by **DJMIKENICE** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:53 pm

[quote="kevin beacham"]good looking Bigg Boss!

I know that's a lot to look at so here's a few I was wondering if they other material of their own:

Helix C Armageddon (Lunchroom, Blacklisted)

this is actually a homegirl of mine from back in the day

she has a track mahogany produced by red devil who also produced Cage's fanatic

Helix has also been on the Anomolies record with pri the honey dark

she also has the freestyle she did on my cracking the surface tape
and another track red devil produced

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:00 pm

kevin beacham wrote:-Serge is a battle rapper from Cleveland. He's best known for being in
the New Music Seminar for a few years and shining but never winning.
He is on the Brand Nubian song and that's all I know. I have a contact
to possibly reach him though

From the "WTF Happened To..." thread-

aleph wrote:
TheBigSleep wrote:I'm not sure about Serge but on page eight of the Track I.D.s thread Digital Stimulation wrote this:

Digital Stimulation wrote:He's from outta Cleveland. He was also on "Step Into Da Cipher" on Brand Nubian's "Everything Is Everything.
Source: http://www.philaflava.com/forum/viewtop ... 581488f519

And that's all I know. Props to DS for the info.
Here's more info on Serge, aka Serge Boogie:

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... d=93957020

www.myspace.com/sergeboogie

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Serge Boogie- The Soak

kevin beacham · Post by **kevin beacham** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:18 pm

good Mike Nice, Aleph and everyone else who has been coming thru. I'm doing a big update to the grid now and I'll reload it hopefully by tomorrow. I found a handful of things on my own so it's a decent update. Let's keep the info coming in please!

That Serge joint is fresh. I coming to hit him up...

Ho1ogramz · Post by **Ho1ogramz** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:14 am

Bigg Boss Luciano wrote:Kandi Kain - featured on Naughty by Nature - Poverty Paradise & Miilkbone - Da Miilkrate (uncredited)

She was in a duo! So I don't think she qualifies. I hope to do a review on my finds some day....

What about Schizm from Da Grassroots' Black Dove track:
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Hobus Maguire · Post by **Hobus Maguire** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:38 am

Verge wrote:Tommy Gun: I believe there was also a Tommy Gun in MIC or on a DOOM song or something. Same dude, I don't know.

Yeah, Tommy Gunn AKA Megalon. He put out an album called "Penny for Your Thoughts". I dunno if it's the same guy either.

Here's his myspace
http://www.myspace.com/theblackgeezus

Bigg Boss Luciano · Post by **Bigg Boss Luciano** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:16 am

Ho1ogramz wrote:
Bigg Boss Luciano wrote:Kandi Kain - featured on Naughty by Nature - Poverty Paradise & Miilkbone - Da Miilkrate (uncredited)
She was in a duo! So I don't think she qualifies. I hope to do a review on my finds some day....

Damn, didn't know that... What was the name of the duo? Did they released somethin'?

kevin beacham · Post by **kevin beacham** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:18 pm

aleph wrote:
kevin beacham wrote:-Serge is a battle rapper from Cleveland. He's best known for being in
the New Music Seminar for a few years and shining but never winning.
He is on the Brand Nubian song and that's all I know. I have a contact
to possibly reach him though
From the "WTF Happened To..." thread-

aleph wrote:
TheBigSleep wrote:I'm not sure about Serge but on page eight of the Track I.D.s thread Digital Stimulation wrote this:

Digital Stimulation wrote:He's from outta Cleveland. He was also on "Step Into Da Cipher" on Brand Nubian's "Everything Is Everything.
Source: http://www.philaflava.com/forum/viewtop ... 581488f519

And that's all I know. Props to DS for the info.
Here's more info on Serge, aka Serge Boogie:

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... d=93957020

www.myspace.com/sergeboogie

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Serge Boogie- The Soak

OK, so it appears Serge Boogie isn't the same Serge. Eventhough he is from Ohio and that's a bit suspect. He's from Akron/Columbus and the 80s/90s Serge is from Cleveland. I did found more info on the "Original" Serge though. He apparently now calls himself Zion Christos

-he's down with this label or whatever: http://www.myspace.com/sam7entertainment

-Peep his battle with Freshco in '89 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=srcpASrIfF8

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:36 pm

kevin beacham wrote:OK, so it appears Serge Boogie isn't the same Serge. Eventhough he is from Ohio and that's a bit suspect. He's from Akron/Columbus and the 80s/90s Serge is from Cleveland. I did found more info on the "Original" Serge though. He apparently now calls himself Zion Christos

-he's down with this label or whatever: http://www.myspace.com/sam7entertainment

-Peep his battle with Freshco in '89 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=srcpASrIfF8

Well, ain't that a mutha...! I should've asked myself how a guy's voice/steez could do a 180 like that.

Lyrical Gymnastics · Post by **Lyrical Gymnastics** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:52 pm

Verge wrote: Serge: Not positive if this is the same guy that has been mentioned a few times here lately. He battled Freshco in like 91? Had a demo or two from Bobbito show?
Either way, I don't think he had any records.

I just found a demo named "Both Sides" by a guy called Surge. I think Blockhead uploaded it a year ago with a couple of more Stretch and Bob demos

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is that the guy?

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:01 pm

^Yep, that's the demo I was thinking about, but apparently from what kev is saying, it's a different dude. Both from Ohio, strange...

kevin beacham · Post by **kevin beacham** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:03 pm

OK, that demo you just posted, "Both Sides" seems to be the "original" S.E.R.G.E (proper use of his name), his voice sounds right there and plus he references Cleveland.

The other demo posted earlier, "The Soak" is Sergeboogie. I just hit Sergeboogie up with a message to clear some things up and I'm going to hit S.E.R.G.E in a second.

Tired & Broke · Post by **Tired & Broke** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:24 pm

Im pretty sure Montage One fits this description

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Montage+One

Panama P.I. is also a likely candidate

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Panama+P.I.

EDIT: also check into Phats Bossalini

kevin beacham · Post by **kevin beacham** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:50 am

OK, I think made all the changes and made all the updates. Thanx for all the help and please add any additional info. Here's some others I'm hoping to find more info and if they did anything else:

-Vic Hop (Acey-Feet Upon The Table
-Soup (from Erick Sermon's All In My Mind)
-Krazy D (Mellow Man Ace's "Hypest From Cypress" NWA-Panic Zone)
-Lotto (Main Source-Set It Off, Xtra P-PUmp Ya Fist
-Prophet & Kwazi (UMCs-Pass It On, SHyheim-The Rugged Onez)
-III (from Big Mike's Still Serious album)

Galvatron78 · Post by **Galvatron78** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:33 am

Good call on Panama P.I. i would also say Passion from the Def Squad and also GangGreen which was Onyx's Old Crew which had Sonsee's brother Whosane.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:03 am

This one I always wanted some solo material from, after hearing him on those Godfather Don records:
Mic L (was on "No Competition" and maybe "Life Aint The Same"?)
He's mentioned The Orfanage, but I don't know if it's the same ones that had a record or two out, either way I don't think he had anything solo at all.

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:38 pm

kevin beacham wrote:OK, I think made all the changes and made all the updates. Thanx for all the help and please add any additional info. Here's some others I'm hoping to find more info and if they did anything else:

-Vic Hop (Acey-Feet Upon The Table
-Soup (from Erick Sermon's All In My Mind)
-Krazy D (Mellow Man Ace's "Hypest From Cypress" NWA-Panic Zone)
-Lotto (Main Source-Set It Off, Xtra P-PUmp Ya Fist
-Prophet & Kwazi (UMCs-Pass It On, SHyheim-The Rugged Onez)
-III (from Big Mike's Still Serious album)

I have never seen anything by Soup before.

Da Publisher · Post by **Da Publisher** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:25 pm

kevin beacham wrote:
Jaz wrote:Krisch

What about Laquan, is he a different from the one who put out "Notes Of A Native Son" in '90 and later another album on Rap-A-Lot as Poppa LQ?
same dude.
how do you know for sure on this one? I've tried listening to the Laquan album '90 back to back with that Mad Kap and none of those dudes sound like him. Which dude is he on the Mad Kap track? Maybe my ears are wrecked from rap over load...ha

Krisch · Post by **Krisch** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:09 am

Galvatron78 wrote:Good call on Panama P.I. i would also say Passion from the Def Squad and also GangGreen which was Onyx's Old Crew which had Sonsee's brother Whosane.

are there 2 Passion's?

http://www.discogs.com/Passion-Ballers- ... se/1737518

Krisch · Post by **Krisch** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:16 am

kevin beacham wrote:
Verge wrote:da Gas Chamber, I don't know how you would approach that one. Yeah, he
was on the Who Lit Dat Shit 12", but it was a split 12" and the A side was his.

II Unorthodox was on kind of a split 12" with another Juice, but I believe it
was from the D n D project, so I don't know how you would look at that one:
http://www.discogs.com/2-Unorthodox-Jui ... ter/176979
EDIT: sorry, didn't see Krisch already mention that one.

Ital The Ruffian had an EP and I believe an unofficial album:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Ital+Tha+Ruffian
EDIT: shit, I see you already noticed this one.

Joe Sinista I'm guessing was also on "Krunchtime", not sure if I ever heard that:
http://www.discogs.com/Terminator-X-God ... ase/299927

Are you sure that Keith Keith isn't Keith Murray? I haven't heard that Fat
Joe song in years but I know he went by Keefy Keef for a record or 2 in the early 90's.

Raggedy Man had demos, unless I'm confusing him. Wonderful world of gravitation? "Raggedy man from the gravity clan"?

Serge: Not positive if this is the same guy that has been mentioned a few times here lately. He battled Freshco in like 91? Had a demo or two from Bobbito show?
Either way, I don't think he had any records.

Shawn Black = Black Attack

Tabb: Not sure, but there was a guy named Big Tabb who had a record or two, if you wanna check if he sounds similar, from Philly:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Big+Tabb
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Tommy Gun: I believe there was also a Tommy Gun in MIC or on a DOOM song or something. Same dude, I don't know.

Thanks for throwing "Vandemator" on there. I been wondering who he was
for years. My first guess was that maybe it was Neek The Exotic, but he does not sound like him.
OK:
-I took of Da Gas Chamber. Ital, Shawn Black

There are two Shawn Black's:

1. Black Attack aka Sean Black aka Sean Boston from Missin Linx
2. Shawn Black who's down with Sadat X

I'm not sure if the 2nd ever released something solo, maybe he's the guy on this 12" (never heard it): http://www.discogs.com/Shawn-Black--Wic ... ase/912741

kevin beacham · Post by **kevin beacham** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:21 pm

thanx Krisch. Soon as I read that Shawn Black thing my brain told me it couldn't be the same guy but I didn't investigate. I'll get back on that one and see what I can find out.

Here's a new one I found:

Nyoo (he was on a few Priority Records samplers and then on the Rhyme &
Reason Soundtrack). Anybody have more info on him? He's pretty
fresh...

Krisch · Post by **Krisch** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:32 pm

Maybe got another one, what about Absaloot who was featured on Group Home's "Sacrifice"?

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:20 am

Yeah, I had a feeling that something wasn't kosher with that Shawn Black shit. Sorry guys, I don't even remember the verse on the Sadat X shit and I'm pretty sure that Black Attack spelled it like "Sean Black" not sure though.
Funny but I was kinda waiting for someone to spot my error, but I wasn't positive.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:21 am

also didn't know about the "Sean Boston" alias either, thanks Krisch. You sir are a 90's head of the utmost highest level.

aREAL · Post by **aREAL** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:58 am

asiatic force & blaque prince had releases

Bigg Boss Luciano · Post by **Bigg Boss Luciano** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:22 am

Galvatron78 wrote:Good call on Panama P.I. i would also say Passion from the Def Squad and also GangGreen which was Onyx's Old Crew which had Sonsee's brother Whosane.

Gang Green released a 12" single in '95.

Verge wrote:Tabb: Not sure, but there was a guy named Big Tabb who had a record or two, if you wanna check if he sounds similar, from Philly:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Big+Tabb

Tabb aka Big Tabb aka Jakk Frost (his current name) had two singles (as you already know) and also appeared on Da Youngsta's Hip Hop Ride (Mellow Mix) & on Da Youngsta's Incredible along with Mentally Gifted.