Horrorcore

Tha Town that E OAK LOC · Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:49 am

One of my favorite genres, gets my hyped. What are your favorite horrorcorers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4BKUA9Lt4
have got all my friends on big lurch....crazy story if you dont know what he did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cblGXDEy4og

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6iKSS6q2Zc
was playing and 2:50 came on....and this girl in my car goes "ew, whaat....change it" haha

Bigg Boss Luciano · Post by **Bigg Boss Luciano** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:34 am

Tha Town that E OAK LOC wrote:One of my favorite genres, gets my hyped.

Ditto

Tha Town that E OAK LOC wrote:What are your favorite horrorcorers.

The whole Flatlinerz album is dope as fuck

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dochiphop · Post by **dochiphop** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:08 am

Ganxsta nip!! he is the father of horrocore rap

soopacee · Post by **soopacee** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:00 am

dochiphop wrote:Ganxsta nip!! he is the father of horrocore rap

yup....the whole SPC

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:56 am

Love me some Gangsta NIP (pause). First two albums are some classic SP shit.

Brotha Lynch's first album, and newest album for that matter. Gravediggaz first album, obviously.

Horrorcore has the potential to be dope when it's done right. When it's done wrong, it has the potential to be ICP.

Anyone remember that Kool Keith project "Thee Undatakerz?"

vaporized2 · Post by **vaporized2** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:02 pm

some of that early Esham stuff

KKKill the Fetus
Closed Casket

co-sign Flatlinerz album being great love that album.

Gravediggaz (very rare unheard of crew)

um .
hm

Eyedea · Post by **Eyedea** » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:57 am

vaporized2 wrote: Gravediggaz (very rare unheard of crew)

wow, there are only rumors about this crew

Esham's early works are dope as hell, Brotha Lynch never really disapointed me with his albums... Twiztid had some cool tracks, but that shit just went to be the same shit as icp in the end... necro here and there, but the dude just keeps repeatin same old shit

em..

aREAL · Post by **aREAL** » Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:39 am

There's so much Horrorcore out there, I love it as well! I got a lot of favorites. Here is two:

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Mr. J Selectah · Post by **Mr. J Selectah** » Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:47 am

Right, too many horrorcore out there...but it's more actual than anything else, groups like Psych Ward and it's "associates" are some of the most consistent, because they have been making it since the 90'...anyways, y'all could check this blog out...never mind about the Esham album, i added that page a few months ago, to my favorites so i wouldn't miss it...it has lots of variety...

http://underworld-rap.blogspot.com/2009 ... -1993.html

PS: Be sure to check my "The 5 samples thread", the last five samples on the 4th page...

shakeanjake · Post by **shakeanjake** » Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:12 am

I like this thread because I'm not familiar with much more besides Gravediggaz and Kool Keith lampooning the genre.

BUT DAMN KEITH CRACKS ME UP

With the eighth body in my trunk my elbow bleeds with lumps
Walkin from the sanitation dump with rotten skulls
On my waterbed with Miller beer kegs
Blood in my cabinet, ears in my closet
Watchin the Raptors play the Houston Rockets

Parked in a parking lot behind Burger King
Eatin a raw pack of chicken wings
With blood on my fingers I blast a CD by the Staple Singers
The cops told me to turn it down,
They like my shoes from Buster Brown
I went up the block an bought some incense
For the wrong smells in the air conditioner vents
Hey kid need twenty cents havin a cook-out with my neighbor
How ya like the meat flavor mmmm

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Tha Town that E OAK LOC · Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:10 am

soopacee wrote:
dochiphop wrote:Ganxsta nip!! he is the father of horrocore rap

yup....the whole SPC

Such a legendary coalition. soooooo many classics came out of there.

battlecatmeowstab212 · Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:16 am

With all the 'early Esham' sentiment in this thread...

...are you somehow suggest his best album wasn't 2001's 'Tongues' or is that just not considered a horrorcore album?

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:59 pm

I was never a fan of the Flatlinerz but I always loved this track, especially the beat, piano sample is ill:
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Co-sign 100X:
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Maybe someone here can ID this track for me. A very weak description, I know, but it's all I remember. Pretty sure the name of the track was "Devil In Me". Dude rhymed real grimy devil sounding, the beat was fast paced and dope. It's from between 93 and 95, I believe. I had it off a radio tape from one of the shows on WNWK. Never heard it again after that.

vaporized2 · Post by **vaporized2** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:07 pm

battlecatmeowstab212 wrote:With all the 'early Esham' sentiment in this thread...

...are you somehow suggest his best album wasn't 2001's 'Tongues' or is that just not considered a horrorcore album?

I like KKKill The Fetus and Dead Flowers, and Closed Casket but I haven't heard "Tongues". I find it hard to believe that any artist that was around in the mid 90s released an album post 2000 that is better than their 90s ones. the only post 2000 Esham stuff I know is a track called something like "Woo Woo Woo" which sounded like an attempt to go commercial and clubby, sounded more like 50 Cent than old Esham. but I will check out Tongues though, cheers for the recommendation

battlecatmeowstab212 · Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:13 pm

vaporized2 wrote:
battlecatmeowstab212 wrote:With all the 'early Esham' sentiment in this thread...

...are you somehow suggest his best album wasn't 2001's 'Tongues' or is that just not considered a horrorcore album?
I like KKKill The Fetus and Dead Flowers, and Closed Casket but I haven't heard "Tongues". I find it hard to believe that any artist that was around in the mid 90s released an album post 2000 that is better than their 90s ones. the only post 2000 Esham stuff I know is a track called something like "Woo Woo Woo" which sounded like an attempt to go commercial and clubby, sounded more like 50 Cent than old Esham. but I will check out Tongues though, cheers for the recommendation

No, I feel you, but honestly 'Tongues' to me is the peak of Esham's work, his magnum opus. It's still dark, but instead of the blatant shock of his earlier work, he traded a lot of the blatant profanity to focus more on a slow, subtle suicidal soundscape. It's mature without being contrived, and a logical progression from his Detroit Dogshit/Mail Dominance years.

From a production stand point, it's him and his brothers making the beats of the highest quality he's EVER had. Polished without catering to a mainstream sound, it's the equivalent of a faithful big budgeted Hollywood remake of a beloved indie horror film.

At this time Esham also produced the last truly great Kool Keith album 'Spankmaster,' which has aged far better than it by all means should have.

catfish hunter · Post by **catfish hunter** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:03 am

Memphis Tennessee and areas of the Mississippi Delta have had a long tradition of Horrorcore or Devil Shit. 3-6 Mafia ended up going mainstream but the early Triple Six Mafia underground shit was satanic. Some breif research should find you most of the original Devil Shit albums.
Evil Pimp is a current Memphis satanic rapper.
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Insane Poetry from Cali had a dope album.
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Jak Progresso is really dope. Kinda like the horrorcore version of Aesop Rock.
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Illegitimate · Post by **Illegitimate** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:27 am

Gravediggaz and Flatlinerz no doubt!

cenzi · Post by **cenzi** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:46 am

Dr. Wolfgang Von Bushwickin the Barbarian Mother Funky Stay High Dollar Billstir!!!

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And I wish Scarecrow from 3-6-Mafia would have went deeper into that horrorcore shit, 'cause his verses on The End had me shook.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:00 am

Dreadlock - Creep With Me
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SZWLK539
Shit's a banger, I'd say horrocore, from the Fugitive Records Sampler, here:
http://fileunderdope.blogspot.com/2009/ ... er-ep.html
thanks to nobs

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:58 am

catfish hunter wrote:Memphis Tennessee and areas of the Mississippi Delta have had a long tradition of Horrorcore or Devil Shit. 3-6 Mafia ended up going mainstream but the early Triple Six Mafia underground shit was satanic. Some breif research should find you most of the original Devil Shit albums.

The Gravediggaz' first album aside, all of the old Triple Six Mafia/Hypnotize Camp tapes are the best "horrorcore" records ever made. The 1992-1996ish timeframe is pretty unmatched as far as what they were putting out; Evil Pimp's first tapes, The Koopsta Knicca, all the "Underground for the Summa" tapes...DJ Paul was just on another level with his beats and the lyrics are some of the most unsettling you'll ever hear.

A quick Google search will net you a lot of these old tapes. God bless the interwebz.

catfish hunter wrote:Kinda like the horrorcore version of Aesop Rock.

:err::err:

Scariest thing in thread.

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:09 am

Some Memphis classics to start y'all off...these are dubs of the original tapes so they sound a little muddy (the way they SHOULD sound, imo).

Lord Infamous & DJ Paul - The Serial Killaz (1993)

Project Pat - Solo Tape (1994)

Architek · Post by **Architek** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:46 am

Verge wrote:Dreadlock - Creep With Me
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SZWLK539
Shit's a banger, I'd say horrocore, from the Fugitive Records Sampler, here:
http://fileunderdope.blogspot.com/2009/ ... er-ep.html
thanks to nobs

Nice one, though i hate it when same samples are used on different tracks. Once i listen to a joint, its sample is permanently related to it in my mind. Now i'm not able to enjoy 'Dreadlock - creep wit me' properly, 'cause i'm already used to 'Universal - destiny' (later release but i heard that one first). TROY's 'who flipped it better' series is a headache to me!

[EDIT]
Maybe not strictly hip-hop but sometimes i'm into Spectre's (aka Ill Saint, if you wish) work. His label Wordsound has some other heads too, ready to bring the horror! (Prince Paul among others)

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Verge · Post by **Verge** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:27 pm

^Nice.
I hear you, man.Once I already know a sample from a certain song and then it here it flipped in the same way, I can't get with it. Like there's some stupid expensive record that uses the same sample as I think Street Smartz "Metal Thangz" and I won't even listen to it cause to me it's the "Metal Thangz" beat.

Rachel Hobozal · Post by **Rachel Hobozal** » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:24 pm

battlecatmeowstab212 wrote:
vaporized2 wrote:
battlecatmeowstab212 wrote:With all the 'early Esham' sentiment in this thread...

...are you somehow suggest his best album wasn't 2001's 'Tongues' or is that just not considered a horrorcore album?
I like KKKill The Fetus and Dead Flowers, and Closed Casket but I haven't heard "Tongues". I find it hard to believe that any artist that was around in the mid 90s released an album post 2000 that is better than their 90s ones. the only post 2000 Esham stuff I know is a track called something like "Woo Woo Woo" which sounded like an attempt to go commercial and clubby, sounded more like 50 Cent than old Esham. but I will check out Tongues though, cheers for the recommendation
No, I feel you, but honestly 'Tongues' to me is the peak of Esham's work, his magnum opus. It's still dark, but instead of the blatant shock of his earlier work, he traded a lot of the blatant profanity to focus more on a slow, subtle suicidal soundscape. It's mature without being contrived, and a logical progression from his Detroit Dogshit/Mail Dominance years.

From a production stand point, it's him and his brothers making the beats of the highest quality he's EVER had. Polished without catering to a mainstream sound, it's the equivalent of a faithful big budgeted Hollywood remake of a beloved indie horror film.

At this time Esham also produced the last truly great Kool Keith album 'Spankmaster,' which has aged far better than it by all means should have.

Tongues is pretty solid. 'Mr. Negativity' is one of the best songs he's ever made. Still, I much prefer 'Dead Flowers.' That album is just so damn consistent.

kotep · Post by **kotep** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:05 am

battlecatmeowstab212 · Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:35 am

Cleanhobo wrote:
battlecatmeowstab212 wrote:
vaporized2 wrote:
battlecatmeowstab212 wrote:With all the 'early Esham' sentiment in this thread...

...are you somehow suggest his best album wasn't 2001's 'Tongues' or is that just not considered a horrorcore album?
I like KKKill The Fetus and Dead Flowers, and Closed Casket but I haven't heard "Tongues". I find it hard to believe that any artist that was around in the mid 90s released an album post 2000 that is better than their 90s ones. the only post 2000 Esham stuff I know is a track called something like "Woo Woo Woo" which sounded like an attempt to go commercial and clubby, sounded more like 50 Cent than old Esham. but I will check out Tongues though, cheers for the recommendation
No, I feel you, but honestly 'Tongues' to me is the peak of Esham's work, his magnum opus. It's still dark, but instead of the blatant shock of his earlier work, he traded a lot of the blatant profanity to focus more on a slow, subtle suicidal soundscape. It's mature without being contrived, and a logical progression from his Detroit Dogshit/Mail Dominance years.

From a production stand point, it's him and his brothers making the beats of the highest quality he's EVER had. Polished without catering to a mainstream sound, it's the equivalent of a faithful big budgeted Hollywood remake of a beloved indie horror film.

At this time Esham also produced the last truly great Kool Keith album 'Spankmaster,' which has aged far better than it by all means should have.
Tongues is pretty solid. 'Mr. Negativity' is one of the best songs he's ever made. Still, I much prefer 'Dead Flowers.' That album is just so damn consistent.

Great song, although is it just me, or are the sound effects on there louder than those found on any other rap record in the history of rap?

Also, "Walkin On the Flatline" is his best album intro-cut ever. Love it so much.

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