100 More Great Obscure Tracks?

[night_shade]

Has anyone put together a sequel to the "Philaflava's 100 Greatest Obscure Tracks"? It's been 6 years now, I'm curious to see what people would come up with. What do people consider to be underground classics, whether back in the nineties or now in the digital era? For instance, I'm inclined to view Mobb Deep's "The Bridge 94" as a classic even if nobody had really heard it until recently. Here are some tracks I'd put on Vol 2 if we were to make one.

How We Chill - Rhymefest
Aboriginals - The Joint (Or maybe their demo)
Ras Kass - Remain Anonymous (Or Won't Catch Me Running?)
Showbiz and A.G. - Under Pressure
Mobb Deep - The Bridge 94
I.G. Off and Hazardous - This Aint Living (And their demo)
Ak Skills - East Ta West
Mic Geronimo - Hemmin' Heads
The Dereliks - I Am A Record
Royal Flush - Rotten Apple
Mr. Voodoo - Hemlock
M.C.M. - Straight On Up (Or any preferred MCM track)
Mad Skillz - Skillz in 95
Slee'stackz - Ruination
E-Rule - Synopsis
Natural Mystics - How It Go (Remix)
Finsta Bundy - Feel The High
Diamond D - 5 Fingas of Death
Foul Play - Black Cloud
Bee Why - The Boros
Shyheim - Ones 4 Da Money (Was this a popular joint when it came out?)
Company Flow - Juvenile Technique
Non Phixion - No Tomorrow
McGruff - Harlem Kids Get Biz
Group Home - East NY Theory
MC Juice - All That Glitters
Vakill - Check Me Out
Triflicts - Don't Make Me Try
Jemini - Funk Soul Sensation (Remix)
Lord Digga - Watch Ya Back
Mixed Elements - Divine Styles
Percee P - Nowhere Near Simple
Saukrates ft. Marvel - Hate Runs Deep
Sadat X - The Melody
Pete Rock - The Greenbacks
El Da Sensei - Haagen Daz
Triip - Keep it Flowin'
Encore - Defined By the Dollar
World Renown - How Nice I Am
Cenobites - Keep On
Terror Tongue - Lyrical Threat
East Flatbush Project - A Madman's Dream
O.C. - Showtime
Lord Finesse - Down For the Underground

In the spirit of the original list I'm using obscure to mean only relatively unknown. Any of these you think shouldn't be included, or don't qualify as "obscure"?

[Philaflava]

Good list, really good. The problem when labeling it obscure it that it is so damn subjective.

Most of us are nerds and a lot of what we've heard definitely is a result of the internet era.

For me, some tracks you mentioned wouldn't be obscure, but again that is me. Which is apart of the problem labeling it obscure.

Like Ras Kass' debut 12? Either track is well known because if you know who Ras Kass is, then chances are you know those songs. Most people in the real world have no idea who Ras Kass is.

But you got some great tracks. Maybe we can collectively give this a shot.

EDIT: I'll update a few as they come to mind

Ahmad, Ras Kass & Saafair - Come Widdit (Joe Quixx Remix)
Casual - Later On (Remix)

[night_shade]

Like Ras Kass' debut 12? Either track is well known because if you know who Ras Kass is, then chances are you know those songs. Most people in the real world have no idea who Ras Kass is.

Yeah, maybe something from the soul on ice demo would be better, or one the Western Hemisfear tracks? I've always really liked Blood is Thicker Than Water, even if it sounds awful. Jack Frost got a vinyl release though, that's an interesting cut.

[night_shade]

Some other possibilities:

Chino XL - Lyrical Jesus
Killah Priest (ft Hellrazah) - Mind As A Weapon
Lord Cyrus - Hearts of Diamonds
Onyx - Shout (Buckwild Remix)
Example - Recollect
Masta Ace - Dopes, Pushers, Addicts
Proof - Life
Ghetto Concept - EZ On the Motion
Brainsick Enterprize - On The Vibe
Rascalz - Soul Obligation
Pop Da Brown Hornet - Can You Wu Wu Wu
Shabaam Sahdeeq - Arabian Nights (Maybe the Sinistar Voices Do or Die demo?)
LL Cool J - Candyman
5 Elementz - Rockshows
Phife Dawg - If Men Are Dogs
Charizma and Peanut Butter Wolf - Methods (May not fit here)
Talib Kweli - 2000 Seasons
Concrete Click - Keep It Street
Roc Marciano - The Prophecy
The Dwellas - BQE

So I know that Soundbombing series was pretty popular, so the Shabaam and Talib tracks might not qualify as "obscure". But Arabian Nights is, I think, something special and deserves to be cataloged somewhere. And I'm not really sure how widely known the Canadian stuff is, like Rascalz and Ghetto Concept and what not. How well known was Charizma back in the day? I was four when that album came out, so I really have no idea.

[night_shade]

Did you put together the first list by yourself Phila? Maybe people can suggest stuff and you pick what you think fits? Up to you.

[Philaflava]

No we had a team of people that came up with that. I think we each had 25-30 choices of our own. Why don't we all take a few days to come up with some stuff. We can compile a master list and then narrow it down.

[night_shade]

Come on people I know you have some suggestions.

[HeRBaN LyRiX]

Saukrates and Choclair - Hate Runs Deep

The list`s pretty sweet, but "Hate Runs Deep" is done by Saukrates with an uncredited feature by Marvel, Choclair`s not on this joint...








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[night_shade]

Word, thanks, got that confused.

[night_shade]

Latee - Brainstorm
Scaramanga - Star of the Empire
Big L - Times Iz Hard
Urban Thermo Dynamics - Kung Fu
Masterminds - Memories
The Basement Khemist - Everybody (L.I.F.E)
Wu Syndicate - Where Was Heaven

[HeRBaN LyRiX]

Word, thanks, got that confused.

You were probably thinkin` of the Saukrates "Father Time" b/w Choclair "Twenty One Years" split 12"...







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[IKH5150]

Saukrates, Chase infinite & E-Rule - Wonderful World

[Philaflava]

Original list: http://www.thetroyblog.com/2008/10/10/p ... re-tracks/

Some suggestions

Ahmad, Ras Kass & Saafair - Come Widdit (Joe Quixx Remix)
Casual - Later On (Remix)
Souls of Mischief - Where The Fuck You At?
Nine - Me, Myself & My Microphone
Hard 2 Obtain - Local Hero
Da King & I - Kingpin feat. Pudgee The Phat Bastard
Too $hort - Get In Where You Fit In, Part II feat. The Dangerous Crew
The B.U.M.S. - Take A Look Around (Groovebumz Remix)
Saafir - Hype Shit
Ultramagnetic MC's - See The Man On The Street
De La Soul - Stakes Is High [DJ Spinna Remix]

[Debonair_P]

Some suggestions from me:

Slick Rick - Why You Doing That
Sadat X - East Coast
Erick Sermon, Heltah Skeltah & Trigga - If You
Pudgee and Butterfly (Digable Planets) - Everybody Want to be Hard

[night_shade]

Nice! Keep em coming.

[night_shade]

LL Cool J - New York Mentality

Phila, I think that Nine track was on the original list.

[Tim Burton]

A couple suggestions:

DJ Honda - Out For The Cash (5 Deadly Venoms Mix)
Onyx - Flip Dat Shit ft. Notorious B.I.G., Naughty By Nature, and 3rd Eye
Audio Two feat. Mc Lyte - Jeep Voices
Mic Geronimo - Lifecheck (Stretch Armstrong Remix)
Saukrates - Ain't a Damn Thing Gonna Change
The Nonce - From The Ground Up

[Architek]

Jamani - Ya'll Know My Steelo
Infared - Wartime
KRB - Dangerous
Deranged Funk - Static
Shadez Of Brooklyn - Pandemonium
Da Henchmen - Watcha Gonna Do
D 2 Tha S - Come Wit It
Da Youngsta's - It's Natural (Q-Ball Remix)
DNA - Bronx Criminal County
The Candy Store - Escape From Belize /or/ Local Scarface
Pete Rock & CL Smooth - We Specialize
Brass Tacks - Truth And Rights /or/ Ice Breaker Classic
The Mischievous LQ & The Mad Mischief Crew - Mischief Night
Herb McGruff - My Place (Groove Merchantz Remix)
Frankenstein - Stranger To The Eye (Original)
Natural Elements - I Got Your Heart
J-Force - Bull's Eye
Ready Ta Roll - Drug Game
Troubleneck Brothers - Back To Hip-Hop (Old School Mix)
Alps Cru - Just Can't Explain
Tha Chamba - Sayahlilsumthin (Pete Rock Remix)
MF Grimm - Landslide (Remix)
Maestro Fresh-Wes - Pray 2 Da East Pt.2
Parallax - Bleeding Hate
The Prunes ft. YB - Funk Of 40,000 Years
something by Shadowz In Da Dark
Onyx - Evil Streets (Remix)
Big L - On The Mic
Street Smartz - Metal Thangz
Burnt Clique - Wild Wild East
Pop Da Brown Hornet - Black On Black Crime
Mad Skillz - The Nod Factor (Nick Wiz Mix)
Cypress Hill - Whatta You Know /or/ Roll It Up, Light It Up, Smoke It Up
Crime Fam - Playa Haters
Nine - Rah Rah Nigga
2 Demented - The Real Sunset Park

[night_shade]

^That's what I'm talkin about.

[night_shade]

Not necessarily one of the greatest tracks, but I've always loved this beat:

[Verge]

^yeah i always loved that beat too. Gab Gotcha was i think in the youtube comments saying that Angels was a mis-print and the title is different. I forget what tho.

Would love to see another 100 Obscure list. Be nice to have a couple of non east coast heads put some picks up too, i.e. Jankz and/or dochiphop.

[Large Marvin]

Someone needs to zip this shit up and post a DL link

[night_shade]

^yeah i always loved that beat too. Gab Gotcha was i think in the youtube comments saying that Angels was a mis-print and the title is different. I forget what tho.

I believe that, the title always seemed a bit random to me.

Someone needs to zip this shit up and post a DL link

I think once we get a final list we could probably do that.

[night_shade]

Son A Bluntz - Don't Snooze
Innersoul - It's The Right Time
Godfather Don - Listen Close (The Don comes hard on this track!)
Thrust - Do You Understand Scam Remix
Apani B - Narcotic
Cage - And So Kiddies
Darc Mind - Outside Looking In

[Architek]

Da Hoodz Uv Mizbhavya - Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil
Bound E! Hunters - Breakitdown
Pudgee - what's the one that goes: "... much respect to my peoples doing crime but never doing time, you never cross the line..."?
Ran Reed – Cops Did The Shooting
Emskee - How I Get Down
... and probably a lot more off the Nick Wiz compilations
Mood - Hustle On The Side
Tragedy Khadafi - Judas Theory
Strickly Roots - Slow Flow
Slade Savage - War Stories
Ruthless Bastards s/t
Pitch Black - A Time To Kill
NON-Equation - Transparent
Diemen X - Ninety Sixness
T-Max - Execution Style
Black Moon - How Many MC's (white label Remix) [producer ever ID'd?]
Creative & Hi-Tech - Continuously
Aiello Wilson - Black Soil
Onyx & Mobb Deep - QB Meets South Suicide
Kess - Against The Law Pt.1
CHAOS - Death Stalks, The Iwakening
Scientifik - Criminal
Mr. Len & The Juggaknots - This Morning
Jeru The Damaja - Me, Not The Paper
Spectrum Live - 50 Grand
Da Minds Of Sol - Blinded by The Light
Rawkotics demo [NY Style]
Mikey D - Killers On Wax
King Sun - Mr. Policeman (demo)
Reks - I Could Have Done More [2000]
Dilated Peoples - Confidence
Mannish - Speaker Time
Rasco - Run The Line /or/ View To A Kill
Ras Kass - Soul On Ice (Diamond D Remix)
Shabazz The Disciple - Crime Saga Remix
Fresno ft. C-Rayz Walz & Immortal Technique - Keepin It Raw [2001]
Mr Mic Rippa - 96 Cream Hunt
Chief Kamachi, Rasheed & Rich Medina - J. Edgar Hoover
DJ Krush ft. CL Smooth - Only The Strong Survive (Remix)

I realize many of my choices are lyrically mediocre but this is my point of view, i won't analyze it now, i'm sure others will bring some balance to this matter. Also, it's up to those living in the US during the timeframe we're interested in to filter out the relatively popular tracks. I wouldn't know.
I'll keep em comin, if i was at home it would be much easier but the 90's were an indie rap paradise so i'm sure we can gather a good amount of worthy joints.

[Fritz]

^yeah i always loved that beat too. Gab Gotcha was i think in the youtube comments saying that Angels was a mis-print and the title is different. I forget what tho.

Would love to see another 100 Obscure list. Be nice to have a couple of non east coast heads put some picks up too, i.e. Jankz and/or dochiphop.

Here some are some west coast suggestions:

C-Bo - Straight Killer
Celly Cel - Heat 4 Ya Azz
JT The Bigga Figga - Beware Of Those feat. E-40 & Celly Cel
B-Legit - Fuck And Get Up
South Circle - No Escape f. MJG
JT The Bigga Figga- Game Recognize Game Featuring Mac Mall
Lil Ric - Deep N Tha Game
Totally Insane- total insanity
Young D Boyz - Mac God
Dubee - Baylife (Instrumental)
Goldy-The Game Is Sold Not Told ft. Too short
E-40 - Rasta Funky Style
The Click - Sohabs
Eightball and Mjg - Fuck Them Niggas
DFC - Digga Bigga Ditch (Evil Dee Radio Mix)
MC Breed-Conclusions f. Too SHort
Young Cellski-Livin in Da Bay
Young Lay-Dont Get It Twisted (Remix)
Volume 10-Sunbeams (Remix)
2ND II None-Higher f. Dj Quik
Cpo-Foo Nay Mic
Young Lay - Amerikkka Eats Its Young (f. Ray Luv, Mac Mall, 2pac)
Mista Grimm-A.S.A.P. (A Smooth-Ass Poet)
2pac - Out On Bail (Original Version, prod LG)
Dru Down-Bigger Than What You Think
Mr Doctor-Fucc Yo Side f. Brotha Lynch Hung
Sinister-Put a Snitch in the ditch
Eazy E-Luv 4 Dem Gangsta'z
Ice Cube-What Can I Do (Eastside Remix)
MC Eiht & CMW (feat. N.O.T.R.)-Sly, Slick And Wicked
Sam Sneed-The Heist (Feat. Drauma)
Sam Sneed-Dear God (Feat. Lady of Rage & Drauma)


And here is a link to the tracks:

http://www.fileswap.com/dl/UhZGeMtRWI/

Forgot the CMW mp3, here it is:

http://www.fileswap.com/dl/hLiJ1C4y8o/


Some east coast suggestions:

Mic Geronimo-Queens Life (Ft. Royal Flush & Havoc)
Raekwon-Uncle
Herb McGruff-East & Police (Groove Merchantz Remix)
Boss-Driveby (DJ Premier, Erick Sermon remix)
Doug E. Fresh–I-Ight (Alright)
Shyheim-What Makes The World Go Round Feat Smooth The Hustler, Trigger The Gambler, Rubbabandz & Alias Christ
Main Source-Time
Kool G Rap-Raw (feat. Big Daddy Kane) (Extended Alternate Version)
Positive K-I Got A Man (Hip Hop Mix)
Kool Kim-Skills R Amazin
Diamond D-Best Kept Secret(45 King Remix)
DJ Mark The 45 King featuring Jay-Z & Lady Champain-Check It Out
Killa Kids-Time To Shine
Krs one-hip hop vs rap (cold cutz remix)
Poops-Suckaz

[night_shade]

^

I've got some listening to do.

[Huldrich Bullsh!t]

this is a first try I will probably add more

buckshot lefonque - music evolution / or the Premier rmx
Rawcotiks - going all out
black anger - feel what I feel
black attack - my crown
down south - southern comfort
C.E.B. - get the point
Show & AG - time for (original Showbiz mix that didn't appear on Goodfellas)
Show & AG - under pressure
Downtown Science - radioactive
broadway - must stay paid ft. KRS One
Boogiemonsters - honeydips in gotham (one of the 2 remixes I think I personally prefer the hip hop rmx)
papa chuck - show some ID
MBP - walk with the limp
Funk Flex & Nine - F.a.l.l.i.n.
Ill bizkitz - chill factor
fat cat kareem - life
divine beings - funky ultimatum
divine force - holy war
JVC - tear the show up
hard knocks - ghetto love
krown rulers - i never put my mic down
Cella Dwellas - medina style /or wussdaplan
pharcyde - passin me by fly as a pie
bustin melonz - cross the border (those drums are insane)
Triflicts - dont make me try (great beatnuts production)
boodah and da bandit - brain on drugs or swallow your pride (nice beatnuts sound alikes)
dred scott - nuttin ta lose

[night_shade]

^Nice!

Is this a widely known remix? Youtube views suggest that it isn't, at least not given how incredibly dope it is.

[Huldrich Bullsh!t]

Brick city kids (artifacts) - what what
lord alibaski - lyrics in motion
MMG 2 Black 2 Strong - across the 110 /or burn baby burn ft Chuck D
bushwackass - rough rugged n raw
double x posse - money talks /or ruff rugged and raw /or sunshine
diamond d - 5 fingaz of death feat. DITC
unspoken heard - setting sun
MCM - powermoves
hansoul project - thats life
Basement Khemist - Correct Technique /or I'm doin ya
aboriginals - keep it hot /or the joint
alps cru - just can't explain
Lakim Shabazz - lost tribe of shabazz
ranjahz - daily basis remix
jamal - fades em all pete rock remix (don't know if its obscure but i don't see much talk about it)
j-treds - make it happen (1998 too late)
Black Madness - 2 tears in a bucket
rottin raskalz - lik a shot
Paw Dukes amazin
n-tense - raise da level of da boom
organized konfusion - bring it on remix
yall so stupid - you wouldn't understand
Frankie Cutlass - know the game ft Mobb Deep & Kool G Rap /or pay ya dues ft Keith Murray Cocoa Brovas & Busta Rhymes /or the cypher 3 ft.Juice Crew
Lord Finesse - Soul Plan
Anttex - GTO and the funky horns
L - check the flow
Zion I - Mic jonez
the Coup - dig it remix wich uses the same sample as MOP how about some hardcore /or Funk (dont know wether the video version or the album version would be more obscure)
Diezzle Don & the Govener - tyme slips or 14-some