Old Bootleg Tapes and Sources

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unheard78 wrote:
bignormy wrote:I'll get to it sometime when I have some free time, not sure when though.
Any luck on that KMD tape yet?
I still need divide it up into tracks. I'm not sure it's any different from what was released though.

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maybe it got better soundquality - that's what we hoping for...I d divide it myself...no need though because the album is dope

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Stieflkater wrote:maybe it got better soundquality - that's what we hoping for...I d divide it myself...no need though because the album is dope
Ha, you think my nth generation tape rip might have better quality? It's not bad as far as dubs go, but that's not likely.

I'm 99 pct sure that I had this tape before the CD re-release (but after ruffs+rares); but I don't think it's any different than the rerelease (apart from side a / b swapped and missing contact blitz)

Looking on discogs the tape tracklist is exactly the same anyway.

Anyway, it's uploading right now a couple formats to analyze and play with.

Also, here's the aesoprock:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/huhil8

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Aight - I thought you got the OG Tape in 94.

http://www.discogs.com/KMD-Black-Bastar ... se/4762758 - the OG Tape got Contact Blitz

I bet DOOM released it of a DUB too. HAHAHAHA

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That tape i believe, is selling for 150.00 on ebay right now

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Kool G Rap – The Giancana Story (Advance)

Download 192 CBR MP3s.

Tracklist:

01. How It Feel ft. Havoc
02. The Streets
03. Wit' Y'all ft. Jinx Da Juvy
04. This is My Life ft. Capone & Noreaga
05. Y'all Niggas ft. Black Gorilla Fam
06. This Means War
07. Holler Back Remix ft. NaS & AZ
08. Thug For Life
09. Ordinary Love
10. She's Dressed to Kill
11. Thug Out
12. Only the Good Die Young
13. G Rap is a Villain
14. Why Do You Gotta Do It Like That
15. Get 'Em Up Now
16. First Nigga (DJ Premier Remix)
17. Keep Goin' ft. Snoop Dogg
18. Where You At ft. Prodigy

I know there's a Slick Rick – The Art of Storytelling (Advance) that got posted here a while ago as well. Can't find that one at the moment though.

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Nice i got a scene rip of the KGR. Is that slick rick different than the retail?

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http://www.sendspace.com/file/n49iwg
black bastards from tape

in flac not divided by track
http://www.sendspace.com/file/m83hc4

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THX
To go back a little further, I've read about people getting tapes of KMD's Bl_ck B_st_rds around 94 or 95 in the UK from a guy that claimed to work for Elektra/Warner, along with other people having underground copies, and that these copies sounded a lot better than the version Doom officially released.
mixing is better than on what DOOM released from first impression / more umph - too bad it's xth Generation plus Contact Blitz and Gimme is missing...also never heard the moaning in the background of What A Niggy Know when Doom raps about the Kitty.

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I had no problems with the 2001 Subverse release. The 2008 Metal Face version sounded muddy as hell though.

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I was refering to the Subverse one. Think vocals and adlibs / effects was kinda low...like I stated never caught the moaning on What...gotta check the VLS now...

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madstadik wrote:Is that Slick Rick different than the retail?
I can't remember all the details at the moment but the skits are different. The first one doesn't have Redman but does have NaS, the one with Q-Tip has Wyclef instead of Peter Gunz (and there's another one with Wyclef and Slick Rick talking), Fresh with Jermaine Dupri is on there (from Jermaine's '98 LP), Unify with Snoop is different, I Own America Part II is different, I think I Sparkle might've made it on the promo as well. And it's missing the Outro, We Turn It On bonus track and live versions of La Di Da Di and The Show.

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bignormy wrote:http://www.sendspace.com/file/n49iwg
black bastards from tape

in flac not divided by track
http://www.sendspace.com/file/m83hc4

Big thanks man!

Regarding the tape someone posted a link to on discogs, someone bought it off ebay already?

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TheBigSleep wrote:
madstadik wrote:Is that Slick Rick different than the retail?
I can't remember all the details at the moment but the skits are different. The first one doesn't have Redman but does have NaS, the one with Q-Tip has Wyclef instead of Peter Gunz (and there's another one with Wyclef and Slick Rick talking), Fresh with Jermaine Dupri is on there (from Jermaine's '98 LP), Unify with Snoop is different, I Own America Part II is different, I think I Sparkle might've made it on the promo as well. And it's missing the Outro, We Turn It On bonus track and live versions of La Di Da Di and The Show.
Interesting. Anyone have a proper rip? The days of advance promos and super-early leaks are long over

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Thats the advance. Trying to find it

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http://fileover.net/99059501/

Heres a proper slick rick unmastered rip

:cheers:

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Many thanks for the KMD & Slick Rick guys :bow:

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Okay, here's a nutty one... anyone got the unmastered version of Kool Keith's Black Elvis album that leaked before its release? I remember it might have been more than unmastered, maybe even unmixed. There were some weird background vocals, courtesy of Keith, on Master Of The Game that weren't on the album mixes. Release Date was also the first track on it, with the Intro appearing after it. As dumb as that sounds, Rolling Stone reviewed that version back in the day and mentioned it, even talking about Release Date despite it not appearing on the retail version.

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I remember a version of "Prince Among Thieves" with all these farm animal noises to mark it as a promo

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For those curious about the Slick Rick advance, here`s a lil` write up as well as a track list...



Right away you`ll notice that the first track "Jail Skit" doesn`t feature Redman like the retail`s version, but instead features Nas & there`s also someone else who I can`t put my finger on at the moment, but he`s after Rev. Run & just before Nas (school me y`all). Track 6, the "Bugsy Radio [Skit]" is a lil` different as well. If you listen closely the background music is the beginning of "Unify", that`s not the case on the retail. Track 12 features Q-Tip & Wyclef unlike the retail`s version that has Q-Tip & Peter Gunz. You`ll also notice that the track "Fresh" featuring J.D. (originally released on J.D`s 1998 album "Life In 1472") is included...

Then there`s the "Rick & Wyclef [Skit]" that appears just before "Memories". Wyclef welcomes Slick Rick home (from jail) & asks Rick to drop that "Memories" joint & tells folks not to bootleg Rick`s music....LoL, "Unify" with Snoop Dogg sounds more like a freestyled version of the track that`s on the retail release. Track 21 "I Sparkle" doesn`t appear on the retail version, I believe that the track was release on a 12" though. The version of "I Own America Part 2" is also a lil` bit different than the retail version, this one has a woman signing all thru the track. Gotta say that I prefer the one that`s on the retail album. The only other difference between the Advance & the Retail is that the Advance version doesn`t have the "CEO Outro" & the retail bonus tracks; "We Turn It On", "La Di Da Di [Live]" or "The Show [Live]". So there y`all have it, now check it out & enjoy...


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Slick Rick- The Art Of Story Telling [Advance]
Released: 1999
Label: Def Jam




1. Jail Skit {ft. Ed Lover, Run, Nas}
2. Kill Niggaz
3. Street Talkin` {ft. Outkast}
4. Me & Nas Bring It To You The Hardest {ft. Nas}
5. I Own America Part 1
6. Bugsy Radio [Skit]
7. Who Rotten `Em?
8. 2 Way Street
9. King Piece In The Chess Game {ft. Canibus}
10. Trapped In Me
11. Impress The Kid {ft. S&S}
12. Q-Tip & Wyclef [Skit]
13. I Run This
14. Frozen {ft. Raekwon}
15. Fresh {ft. J.D.}
16. Why, Why, Why?
17. Adults Only
18. Rick & Wyclef [Skit]
19. Memories
20. Unify {ft. Snoop Dogg}
21. I Sparkle
22. Bugsy Radio [Skit]
23. I Own America Part 2
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bignormy wrote:I remember a version of "Prince Among Thieves" with all these farm animal noises to mark it as a promo
Farm noises? That's, uh, weird... yeah, if there was ever a way to mark your promo, that one sticks out. Kinda like the version of The Shining with all the movie samples throughout it. I know it was supposed to prevent people from sharing it, even though it didn't, but it actually made it harder to listen to. Never bothered to check it out until the retail version came out. The Donuts advance had that computer voice mentioning what it was and interrupting every once in a while, similar to the Madvillain advance, and it was annoying because the track would completely stop, but at least it didn't happen too often.

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That may be the rip w the barnyard noises. Whats was diff about it?

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http://fileover.net/37504115/

Let me know if this it it! One

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madstadik wrote:

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Prince_Paul-Politics_of_the_Business-(ADVANCE)-2002-CMS
That may be the rip w the barnyard noises. Whats was diff about it?
No it was definitely Prince Among Thieves. I remember another odd difference was More Than U Know was missing a final Trugoy verse which was present on an earlier leak of that song, and was present again on the retail. Anyway I do think he's done the barnyard stamp on other releases as well.

Maybe I can dig up the tape I dubbed sometime, it's probably buried somewhere. It's nothing more than a funny curiosity though, I won't be able to find it anytime soon.

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Paul used barnyard sounds to censor himself on his answering machine skit on Buhloone Mindstate.

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There is also a promo version of Brand Nubian's "The Foundation" album that has barnyard noises on it.

It's as amazing as you'd imagine it to be.

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thanks HeRBaN LyRiX for all of that Slick Rick info!

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Here's an incomplete list I put together. And no I don't have this stuff but it all exists and is out there supposedly:

Beastie Boys – Licensed to Ill Advance (1986)
Diamond D – Stunts, Blunts & Hip Hop Advance (1992)
Kool G Rap & DJ Polo – Live and Let Die Advance (1992)
Showbiz & A.G. – Runaway Slave Advance (1992)
Gravediggaz – Niggamortis Advance (1993)
KMD – Bl_ck B_st_rds Advance (1994)
GZA – Liquid Swords Advance (1995)
KRS-One – KRS-One Advance (1995)
Raekwon – Only Built 4 Cuban Linx Advance (1995)
Snoop Dogg – The Doggfather Advance (1996)
Big Daddy Kane – Veteranz Day Advance (1998)
Buddha Monk – The Prophecy Advance (1998)
Eminem – The Slim Shady LP Advance (1999)
Haiku D'Etat – Haiku D'Etat Advance (1999)
Inspectah Deck – Uncontrolled Substance Advance (1999)
Jay-Z – In My Lifetime Vol. III: Life & Times of S. Carter Advance (1999)
Mobb Deep – Murda Muzik Advance (1999)
NaS – I Am...The Autobiography Advance (1999)
Rakim – The Master Advance (1999)
Slick Rick – The Art of Storytelling Advance (1999)
Snoop Dogg – Tha Last Meal Advance (2000)
Ghostface Killah – Bulletproof Wallets Advance (2001)
N.E.R.D. – In Search of... Advance (2001)
Outsidaz – The Bricks Advance (2001)
Wu-Tang Clan – Iron Flag Advance (2001)
Jay-Z & R. Kelly – Best of Both Worlds Advance (2002)
Kool G Rap – The Giancana Story Advance (2002)
Prince Paul – Politics of the Business Advance (2002)
Cappadonna – The Struggle Advance (2003)
Raekwon – The Lex Diamond Story Advance (2003)
Cam'Ron – Purple Haze Advance (2004)
Game – The Documentary Advance (2004)
Jean Grae & 9th Wonder – The Jeanius Advance (2004)
Kanye West – College Dropout Advance (2004)
Mannie Fresh – The Mind of Mannie Fresh Advance (2004)
Slim Thug – Already Platinum Advance (2004)
Talib Kweli – The Beautiful Struggle Advance (2004)
Ghostface Killah & Trife Da God – 718: Stapleton to Somalia Advance (2005)
Lupe Fiasco – Food and Liquor Advance (2006)
Snoop Dogg – The Blue Carpet Treatment Advance (2006)
T.I. – King Advance (2006)
Freeway – Free at Last Advance (2007)
Talib Kweli – Eardrum Advance (2007)

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i have a few of those on vinyl(nas and mobb deep had a few of their tracks issued on vinyl prior to the albums), bought the jay z/r kelly advance on cd at a rim store back in February of 2002. there are differences in a few songs, but i haven't listened to either the album version or advance in years to tell u right now. if i'm correct, I think the Nas album was going to be a double album, but so many tracks leaked like "stay scheming", "belly button window", and "blaze a 50" that he just made it 1 disc. this is known though

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dustyhands wrote:if i'm correct, I think the Nas album was going to be a double album, but so many tracks leaked like "stay scheming", "belly button window", and "blaze a 50" that he just made it 1 disc. this is known though
there's been a few rumors about this one. The label let that info out that since it was so heavily bootlegged that they decided to just not release certain things but the more plausible sounding rumor, imo, is that they wanted 2 albums back to back from Nas at that time cause it would make them more money and some other labels and artists were doing so. i could be wrong though.

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