Buhloone Mindstate vs. The Four Horsemen

charlie sheen's microwave · Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:39 pm

Two albums that were interchangeably in my tape deck at any given time in the nine-trey. Tough call for me, De La is the instinctive pick, 'cause of the warmer moments like "Breakadawn" and "I am I Be" on that record...however, The 4 Horsemen came with rawest, underground shit of the day with tracks like "Man on The Street" and "Raise it Up" Tough one, YOU MAKE THE CALL!

peanut butter · Post by **peanut butter** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:16 pm

"I Am, I Be" > Anything on The 4 Horsemen Project.

I hope this post is a joke.

PEACE

SacmenFeg · Post by **SacmenFeg** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:41 pm

peanut butter wrote:"I Am, I Be" > Anything on The 4 Horsemen Project.

I hope this post is a joke.

PEACE

I think you are confused.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:53 pm

Easily BMS

oracle21 · Post by **oracle21** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:50 am

four horsemen easily for me

Kid B · Post by **Kid B** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:24 am

They might blow up but they won't go POP.

Y@k Bollocks · Post by **Y@k Bollocks** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:44 am

Call me crazy, but Four Horsemen. I liked the De La joint at the time but haven't played it in a very long time.

jimmy78 · Post by **jimmy78** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:35 am

Y@k Bollocks wrote:Call me crazy, but Four Horsemen. I liked the De La joint at the time but haven't played it in a very long time.

Nice remix on the Sig Y@k

Cryptic One · Post by **Cryptic One** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:22 am

i like de la soul overall much better career wise

but 4 horsemen i liked better then Buhloon

kafka's toilet paper · Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:43 pm

these are both personal classics for me. i'd say four horsemen takes it, but it's really too close to call. strangely, i think the two records are flawed in similar ways, but i have no idea what i really mean beyond that.

charlie sheen's microwave · Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:04 pm

peanut butter wrote:"I Am, I Be" > Anything on The 4 Horsemen Project.

I hope this post is a joke.

PEACE

I wholeheartedly disagree with you, although I'm only 15 and I live inside of some anti-dickface, interstellar vaccuum. so what the fuck would i know about some good hip-hop right?

Cryptic One · Post by **Cryptic One** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:20 pm

oh yeah im also assuming here that we are talking about

not the group 4 Horsemen with canibus, kurupt, ras kass and killah priest

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:40 pm

^^^
i think that goes wthout saying.

easily de la soul.

Y@k Bollocks · Post by **Y@k Bollocks** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:29 pm

charlie sheen's microwave wrote:
peanut butter wrote:"I Am, I Be" > Anything on The 4 Horsemen Project.

I hope this post is a joke.

PEACE
I wholeheartedly disagree with you, although I'm only 15 and I live inside of some anti-dickface, interstellar vaccuum. so what the fuck would i know about some good hip-hop right?

You're 16 - WHY LIE. I KEEL YOU MAAAAAAAN.

Cryptic One · Post by **Cryptic One** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:33 pm

ackbar wrote:^^^
i think that goes wthout saying.

easily de la soul.

just checking

you never know with the internets these days

SacmenFeg · Post by **SacmenFeg** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:55 pm

ackbar wrote:^^^
i think that goes wthout saying.

easily de la soul.

You'd think so, but it seems to be what peanut butter thought.

charlie sheen's microwave · Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:41 pm

Y@k Bollocks wrote:
charlie sheen's microwave wrote:
peanut butter wrote:"I Am, I Be" > Anything on The 4 Horsemen Project.

I hope this post is a joke.

PEACE
I wholeheartedly disagree with you, although I'm only 15 and I live inside of some anti-dickface, interstellar vaccuum. so what the fuck would i know about some good hip-hop right?
You're 16 - WHY LIE. I KEEL YOU MAAAAAAAN.

I'm goin' over everything they got, forEVAH!

oracle21 · Post by **oracle21** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:28 am

ultra mag was way ahead of their and even though i dont like de la too much buhloone mindstate was a great album. its just not touchin 4 horsemen tho

clark bent · Post by **clark bent** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:22 pm

an album that you pull out once every 6-7 years cause you forget how dope it is vs a classic album that gets as much run today as when it dropped

both are real dope but come on now

Cryptic One · Post by **Cryptic One** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:55 pm

clark bent wrote:an album that you pull out once every 6-7 years cause you forget how dope it is vs a classic album that gets as much run today as when it dropped

both are real dope but come on now

which one are you talking about?

because i have played 4 horsemen a whole lot more then buhloon. over the years...

oracle21 · Post by **oracle21** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:14 am

great comparison thread

Combo7 · Post by **Combo7** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:22 am

Don't see how this could be much of an argument when you have Ced Gee sucking it up on every track on The Four Horsemen.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:25 am

Combo7 wrote:Don't see how this could be much of an argument when you have Ced Gee sucking it up on every track on The Four Horsemen.

Ced wasn't on every track remember that. Also, he wasn't nearly as bad as you're making him out to be. But it's really no difference than

on

tracks. There is so much good you gotta overlook the one bad sometimes. Plus, you're talking about an album that had one of the greatest tracks of all-time (Raise It Up).

christopher walken · Post by **christopher walken** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:26 am

Combo7 wrote:Don't see how this could be much of an argument when you have Ced Gee sucking it up on every track on The Four Horsemen.

untrue.

Combo7 · Post by **Combo7** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:09 am

Philaflava wrote:
Combo7 wrote:Don't see how this could be much of an argument when you have Ced Gee sucking it up on every track on The Four Horsemen.
Ced wasn't on every track remember that. Also, he wasn't nearly as bad as you're making him out to be. But it's really no difference than on tracks. There is so much good you gotta overlook the one bad sometimes. Plus, you're talking about an album that had one of the greatest tracks of all-time (Raise It Up).

He was on almost all of them and I really think he's bad enough to ruin the whole album. I thought he was fine on Critical Beatdown but by the time the third album dropped he was worse than Mindbender. I think I'd rather listen to Vanilla Ice's debut than The Four Horsemen.

Somebody needs to do to that album what was done with The Score and edit out the wack rapper.

trickykid · Post by **trickykid** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:35 am

Buhloone easily. It's one if not the most underated hip hop album ever. I love that organic sound they created for that album.

Four Hoursemen is a great solid album, but not a masterpiece in any way. It's no critical beatdown.

I might be wrong I feel hip-hop fanatics often have a love affair with ultramagnetic mc's more for what they represent than for the quality of their music. I agree they were lyricaly ahead of their time, but listening to their music today is not always as enjoyable as I expect from a piece of music.

Combo7 · Post by **Combo7** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:52 am

trickykid wrote:I might be wrong I feel hip-hop fanatics often have a love affair with ultramagnetic mc's more for what they represent than for the quality of their music. I agree they were lyricaly ahead of their time, but listening to their music today is not always as enjoyable as I expect from a piece of music.

I agree with this. Critical Beatdown is classic (canon, even), but I can take or leave the others.

I'd say the sum of

Sex Styles
Black Elvis
Dr. Dooom
Dr. Octagon

is better than the sum of the first three Ultramag albums.

oracle21 · Post by **oracle21** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:59 am

see i can listen to four horseman today and still dig it. critical beatdown was a classic. it always will be a classic. but it will be a classic that i dont care to revisit besides an occasional joint here or there. four hourseman had so many ill tracks. two brothers with checks, raise it up, checking my style, Saga of Dandy, The Devil & Day, yo black were all exceptional joints. this album still bangs. as much as heads criticize their lyrical content i can peep this now and still get into it. the shit that made peopel not like tem then is what is making me love it now.

As far as de la i have never been a fan. they have a track here or there i like but they put me to sleep. i own none of their albums and probably never will. buhloone mindstate is their best to me but even runs its course and eventually sedates me.

DULLAH · Post by **DULLAH** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:10 pm

The beat on Raise it Up is truly incredible.
But BMS takes it.

Are there Instrumentals for four horsemen?

CRASH DDZ · Post by **CRASH DDZ** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:00 pm

dE lA dE lA dE lA....

I know raise it up and 2 bros with checks were on singles off 4H. Not sure about any other instrus.