Question: What's the origin of the "Outro"?

Mr. J Selectah · Post by **Mr. J Selectah** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:17 am

Maybe this sounds stupid...but i've always found it curious, the "Outro" thing, in the end of the albuns...i mean, "outro" is a portuguese word, it means "other" in english, but it's universal..either it's japanese or asian, arabic, latin america, and mostly europe of course...most of the times, there's always the word "Outro" in the end of the albuns, no matter the country, it spells like the portuguese word "outro", and i suppose the meaning is universal...sometimes, it's just a conclusion for the album, other times the artist makes "his out" by saying a few words, and other times, it's just some other references or themes, not 100% related with the main concept ideia or message on the album, but something that goes beyond that line of thought...so what's really the origin on the "Outro"? When did this become universal?

If the moderators feel it's right to delete this topic, i'll understand... but i think it's interesting tho...

chillhood · Post by **chillhood** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:35 am

share same origin with "intro"

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:11 am

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step one · Post by **step one** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:33 am

seriously?

Odnet · Post by **Odnet** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:51 am

This is going to blow your fucking mind:

Organized Konfusion's first album has the "intro" at the end.

Mr. J Selectah · Post by **Mr. J Selectah** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:20 pm

It didn't blow my fucking mind at all, because sometimes intros are placed in second..and allota songs have intros/interludes before, whatever...plus their name was Organized Konfusion, right? So the contradiction on the intro actually makes sense...but yo, let's not get drastic or get into some predictible type of shit (like the "what the fuck" thing)...just plain and simple curiosity, like so many other unnecessary (perhaps) threads that are usually made...

Odnet · Post by **Odnet** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:43 pm

citizen · Post by **citizen** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:33 pm

When did this become universal?

1786, mozart ended marriage of figaro with "outro", the world was never the same

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:24 pm

Thread can still be saved with a list of your favorite intro and/or outros.

Off the top, Diamond D's second album had that ill track for an outro.
Or was it called epilogue, not outro?

Tired & Broke · Post by **Tired & Broke** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:34 pm

Verge wrote:Thread can still be saved with a list of your favorite intro and/or outros.

Off the top, Diamond D's second album had that ill track for an outro.
Or was it called epilogue, not outro?

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:36 pm

this thread is what would happen if 'what's forget about it?' had a baby with 'what does it mean to 'buck' somebody?'

although you can't really hate on the dude for having an inquisitive mind state

Mr. J Selectah · Post by **Mr. J Selectah** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:10 pm

Say what...but i don't this thread to be save, it doesn't even feels right to call it a thread, because you know i usually don't do this...and even so, in the end, i told the mods they could delete the bullshit...better yet, on the "intro" i said: maybe this sounds stupid...and on the "outro": If the moderators feel it's right to delete this topic, i'll understand...so who gives a damn about it, it don't mean nothing...
Today i've made that thread "DJ JS-1 VS DJ Unknown & DJ Mekalek", so forget this one...

chillhood · Post by **chillhood** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:20 pm

cenzi · Post by **cenzi** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:22 pm

Verge wrote:Thread can still be saved with a list of your favorite intro and/or outros.

In this case, CMWs intro for "Music to Driveby" was some serious sinister shit... I always thought that the intro had two pieces of crazy ass music, until I had to replace my tape with a CD and realized that the second piece of music, some jazzy horny shit, was actually part of the first track. Anyways.. doe way to start off a record.

Also, Masta Ace starts his "Sittin on Chrome" with a nice laid back track. I always liked that intro.

But if Kanye was here, he would have interrupted me to say that Baywatch had the best intro ever. Of all time.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:39 pm

Dr. Octagon intro
King Sun - Intro(To All You Fake Thug Mothafuckas)
Beatnuts - World's Famous Intro
Tim Dog - Intro (on Penicillin On Wax)
Black Sheep - Intro (Wolf In Sheep's Clothing)
Lord Finesse - Da Sermon Intro (from The Awakening) and intro from Return Of The Funkyman
De La Soul - Intro (Buhloone Mindstate, 3 Feet High, Is Dead)
K - Otix - Intro (Spontaneity EP)

Oh fuck it, I give up. Too many.

battlecatmeowstab212 · Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:46 pm

Honestly, I think it's a fair question. "Introduction" is a word. "Outroduction" isn't. Likewise, I highly doubt anything ever was, prior to the invention of "rap rekkidz," referred to as an "outro."

When I tried to use "outro" in a 10th grade english class, I was greeted with grim giggles. Since then I've wondered where it came from

Mr. J Selectah · Post by **Mr. J Selectah** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:14 pm

Exactly man, the same shit but in a different context...although it's fair enough, i guess...i always found it odd, seeing "outro" written in non-english/american/french (etc, etc) music albuns, when the word is portuguese, so the meaning got universal, but i don't know where, when, why and how...but like i said above, plain and simple curiosity, that's all...plus, i see the philaflava forum hasn't been all that much active lately, so it ain't gonna be for one topic/thread or another, that the shit's gonna make allota difference...

Jonny · Post by **Jonny** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:21 pm

Thun wrote: /

kimani · Post by **kimani** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:47 am

Just another portmanteau

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outro

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:04 am

kimani wrote:Just another portmanteau

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outro

It is possible that it was first coined by The Bonzo Dog Do Dah
Band as the term is referenced in a song from their 1967 album Gorilla
titled The Intro And the Outro

Laughed out loud.. The Bonzo Dog Do Dah Band

H.E. · Post by **H.E.** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:35 am

Mr. J Selectah wrote:Exactly man, the same shit but in a different context...although it's fair enough, i guess...i always found it odd, seeing "outro" written in non-english/american/french (etc, etc) music albuns, when the word is portuguese, so the meaning got universal, but i don't know where, when, why and how...but like i said above, plain and simple curiosity, that's all...plus, i see the philaflava forum hasn't been all that much active lately, so it ain't gonna be for one topic/thread or another, that the shit's gonna make allota difference...

it has nothing to do with the portuguese word[/b]

gaccu01 · Post by **gaccu01** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:32 am

it has nothing to do with the portuguese word[/quote]

Exactly. It's an invented word: again, since the "introduction" was shortened as "intro" (in), someone invented the word "outro" for the non-existing word "outroduction" (as in out) instead of epilogue and such. Ever since, the word "outro" has become part of the hip hop jargon, and so it does make sense.

Also, note that Portuguese "outro" and English "outro" are pronounced in different ways.

cenzi · Post by **cenzi** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:32 pm

Verge wrote: Black Sheep - Intro (Wolf In Sheep's Clothing)

Really? Prince Paul over some noise is favourite intro?

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:24 pm

cenzi wrote:
Verge wrote: Black Sheep - Intro (Wolf In Sheep's Clothing)
Really? Prince Paul over some noise is favourite intro?

"...the doo doo eatin, vomit tastin', pee drinkin', jelly donut makin',
hoe slappin', kitty cat lickin', cess pool swimmin', pre marital sex
havin', you know..."

Yes. Can't say I didn't enjoy it and think it was a great intro, as a kid.
I was pretty easily entertained when it came to any jokes about "doo doo".

Question: What's the origin of the "Outro"?

Question: What's the origin of the "Outro"?

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