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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:26 pm 
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T.R.O.Y. is suppose to be the cultured Philaflava forum. We're a learning center and all of us are the teachers. We're suppose to be sophisticated, educative and most importantly we're suppose to share with one another. This forum and it's blog did not become a successful because of the lack of sharing, information or increased bickering we've recently seen displayed on here.

I'm all for having fun on these boards and by all means if you want to challenge somebody or take a poke at them for their personal taste, do it, but do it in a manor that is not malicious. We should have a higher level of respect for one another in T.R.O.Y. and if you want more partying and bullshit, well there is a forum for you on this message board.

We need to eliminate the self-serving threads. There is no reason you should have multiple threads on the first page of your radio show, mixes, blogs, ebay auctions or anything reverting back to you. This is the Philaflava forum, not yours.

First and foremost SHARE. Nobody gives a shit what you have unless you're willing to share it. You want to brag, go take out an ad in the newspaper because if you come to this site to gloat don't come at all. There are enough pretentious assholes on those other Digger forums for you to build with.

The mods along with myself are going to do a better job at regulating in this forum until it is restored to its natural state. We don't want spamming and we don't want petty arguments ruining what we've accomplished. T.R.O.Y. is for people who want to reminisce of the Golden Era and usually that means we're old dinosaurs so there is no reason any of us should act like we're some 17 year old new jack who just wants to shit on others, brag about nonsense and bring nothing to this forum.

REQUESTS: This forum is outstanding when it comes to fulfilling requests but don't take advantage of it. Learn to give back because that is how this forum works. It has always been a give and take. If you keep taking without return the favor, then there is absolutely NO REASON anyone should fulfill your requests.

APPRECIATION: Learn how to say thank you. People take the time to upload, gather artwork, information and rip from their personal collection. Let them know their time was well spent and that you appreciate their efforts (even if it's an album you don't like but downloaded).

OPINIONS: We're all entitled to them and I encourage you all state them daily. But there comes a point when you're stating the same redundant philosophy that is only now annoying people and derailing threads. Curb the elitism and make sure your opinion is just that, an opinion and not a proclamation.

SUPPORT: This is a Philaflava forum. We have a Philaflava (TROY) blog. You are not required to bookmark, download or even read our blog but you are on OUR turf so if you aren't one of those people supporting then do NOT expect to be supported in your efforts. DO NOT promote YOUR blog on our site. We're all for networking and we always give credit where credit is due, but I'm sick of people trying to take advantage of our traffic, content and creativity and not returning the favor.

CONTENT: All threads posted in T.R.O.Y. are property of Philaflava. That means we can and will publish what we want on our blog should it meet our requirements. As I stated earlier, we ALWAYS give credit but this is just a heads-up to those who post content. We don't take advantage of anyone, nor do we make it a habit of regurgitating forum items on the blog (usually its the other way around), but we can and we will should we see fit.

In closing, be respectful of others. Show appreciation. Lend support and leave your ego's at the login page.

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Fully agreed! Thanks Philaflava.

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Fully agreed! Thanks Philaflava.

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I'm going to sticky it this weekend. I just didn't want it to get lost in the shuffle. People NEED to read this because if they continue to act out their threads will be locked, deleted and they might even lose rights to post here. Like O.C. said time's up!

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Philaflava wrote:
We need to eliminate the self-serving threads. There is no reason you should have multiple threads on the first page of your radio show, mixes, blogs, ebay auctions or anything reverting back to you. This is the Philaflava forum, not yours.


I know you mean that shit for me being that my threads are now locked. I think you're wrong to do that though... It's not about me, it's about the dope Hiphop contained IN my mixes. Never once do any of my mixes say my name or anything! I don't believe in that kinda bullshit. And that Gang Starr Special from The King Tech Wake Up Show is dope which is why I re-upped it.

You know, sometimes, I think to myself that some of you seem to take this Message Board/BLOG shit a little WAAY too seriously, but whatever, that's just my opinion. Part of me understands cuz of course, you want this place to be respectable (unlike places like UGHH) , but then the other part of me thinks/feels that you guys wanna control too much here. Again, just my opinion. Keep doin your thing I guess...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:24 pm 
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We need to eliminate the self-serving threads. There is no reason you should have multiple threads on the first page of your radio show, mixes, blogs, ebay auctions or anything reverting back to you. This is the Philaflava forum, not yours.


I know you mean that shit for me being that my threads are now locked. I think you're wrong to do that though... It's not about me, it's about the dope Hiphop contained IN my mixes. Never once do any of my mixes say my name or anything! I don't believe in that kinda bullshit. And that Gang Starr Special from The King Tech Wake Up Show is dope which is why I re-upped it.

You know, sometimes, I think to myself that some of you seem to take this Message Board/BLOG shit a little WAAY too seriously, but whatever, that's just my opinion. Part of me understands cuz of course, you want this place to be respectable (unlike places like UGHH) , but then the other part of me thinks/feels that you guys wanna control too much here. Again, just my opinion. Keep doin your thing I guess...


You aren't the only one who creates threads to self-promote. If you have a bunch of mixes you've made, do like Roy Johnson and create one master thread and continue to upload/edit/contribute in that thread. It makes for a cleaner looking forum. It's not a personal thing.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:31 pm 
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Philaflava wrote:
You aren't the only one who creates threads to self-promote. If you have a bunch of mixes you've made, do like Roy Johnson and create one master thread and continue to upload/edit/contribute in that thread. It makes for a cleaner looking forum. It's not a personal thing.


Those posts were already created months ago! So why lock them?

From now on, sure, I'll keep 'em all in one thread...

Last, I never self promote so please don't say that. Never do you see me trying to get people to go to either of my websites nor do my mixes contain any info about me. It's ALWAYS all about the music and never about me.

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S.DeEzY4O8 wrote:
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You aren't the only one who creates threads to self-promote. If you have a bunch of mixes you've made, do like Roy Johnson and create one master thread and continue to upload/edit/contribute in that thread. It makes for a cleaner looking forum. It's not a personal thing.


Those posts were already created months ago! So why lock them?

From now on, sure, I'll keep 'em all in one thread...

Last, I never self promote so please don't say that. Never do you see me trying to get people to go to either of my websited nor do my mixes contain any info about me. It's all about the music and never about me.



You're being defiant, please don't. I shouldn't have to spend anymore time on these simple requests than I already have.

I locked your threads because you bumped them to let people know the links still work. I cringe when I see somebody bump multiple threads and page 1 looks like they just took a big shit on this forum. I want to slit my fucking wrists when that happens. You posted the links are valid so anyone who enters those threads will know that. You don't get the meaning of "overload." You also don't get by posting your mixes and bumping threads of your mixes you are self promoting. From your threads to your signature and I look the other way.

Just do as I ask. This isn't a difficult set of rules and I don't think I'm a difficult person so why do you want to make my life difficult for me?

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S.DeEzY4O8 wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
You aren't the only one who creates threads to self-promote. If you have a bunch of mixes you've made, do like Roy Johnson and create one master thread and continue to upload/edit/contribute in that thread. It makes for a cleaner looking forum. It's not a personal thing.


Those posts were already created months ago! So why lock them?

From now on, sure, I'll keep 'em all in one thread...

Last, I never self promote so please don't say that. Never do you see me trying to get people to go to either of my websited nor do my mixes contain any info about me. It's all about the music and never about me.


Dun, your signature is an advertisement for your radio show. That's self-promotion. Just saying.

Not to be on Gloss' dils but there's really no room for argument here. TROY is one of if not THE best forum of its kind on the net, not only because of the material that gets shared and the collective knowledge of those who post here but because of the way that it's run. On the whole, an effort is made to keep the self-serving and petty bullshit to a minimum. I don't think that any of the rules and regs that Phila just ran through are too harsh at all.

Finally, I know that you feel villainized and that you've got a bit of a target on your back. Well, you do because the way you've posted in the past tends to rub people the wrong way. But trust, it's not a personal thing and it's not just you. Plenty of posters in here piss people off. I'm sure I've done it many times. If what you're posting is garnering a negative response from the majority, there's probably a good reason even if you don't see it right away. Sometimes falling back a little bit is a good idea.

By the way, this post doesn't require any response. I'm not trying to start a debate with you. I'm simply suggesting you marinate on the words of myself and Philaflava. If you happen to agree, cool. If you don't, I don't know what to tell you because few people seem to have the problems you have/had with the forum.

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Philaflava i have a question

is it ok to make a post
and to link your blog where said music is found
ie such and such lost album and than a link to my blog within the post for the group to download it

i love this forum and dont want to violate your rules

I also want to know if its ok to promote an album or new mixtape via a forum post providing it relates to TROY era music

ie a Kool G Rap mixtape
or Ei8trak (FACULTY) album its not like Ei8 is a new artist since he had dropped vinyl durring the Troy era on mass vinyl and was on the NY radio mix shows. Its kind of a gray area and like i said i don't want to violate.

i want to make a post of all his radio promos for the forum

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Mike you're considered fam. You support us and we do the same on our blog for you. You can post whatever you like, all I ask if if you post on your blog you give proper credit like we do. Discussing new material is fine as long as you feel it pertains to this forum. We shouldn't be limited in the music we can discuss. Also, I know many of you have projects you like to promote. I'm ALL for people sharing information or promoting if you will, I just ask you don't overdo it. You don't seem to have that problem, but some do.

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no problem fam and i continue to shout you cats out on my blog post

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We need to eliminate the self-serving threads. There is no reason you should have multiple threads on the first page of your radio show, mixes, blogs, ebay auctions or anything reverting back to you. This is the Philaflava forum, not yours.


I know you mean that shit for me being that my threads are now locked. I think you're wrong to do that though... It's not about me, it's about the dope Hiphop contained IN my mixes. Never once do any of my mixes say my name or anything! I don't believe in that kinda bullshit. And that Gang Starr Special from The King Tech Wake Up Show is dope which is why I re-upped it.

You know, sometimes, I think to myself that some of you seem to take this Message Board/BLOG shit a little WAAY too seriously, but whatever, that's just my opinion. Part of me understands cuz of course, you want this place to be respectable (unlike places like UGHH) , but then the other part of me thinks/feels that you guys wanna control too much here. Again, just my opinion. Keep doin your thing I guess...


theres a sticky thread for DJ mixes & radio shows etc, just post em all up in there. They're more likely to be found by other users as individual posts eventually slide down the board.

bumping somethng cos 'its dope' isnt necessary. about 90% of threads on here contain dope music. they dont all need bumping.

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Needed to be said.
Shits been hectic around here and we can't have it turn into some
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S.DeEzY4O8 wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
We need to eliminate the self-serving threads. There is no reason you should have multiple threads on the first page of your radio show, mixes, blogs, ebay auctions or anything reverting back to you. This is the Philaflava forum, not yours.


I know you mean that shit for me being that my threads are now locked. I think you're wrong to do that though... It's not about me, it's about the dope Hiphop contained IN my mixes. Never once do any of my mixes say my name or anything! I don't believe in that kinda bullshit. And that Gang Starr Special from The King Tech Wake Up Show is dope which is why I re-upped it.

You know, sometimes, I think to myself that some of you seem to take this Message Board/BLOG shit a little WAAY too seriously, but whatever, that's just my opinion. Part of me understands cuz of course, you want this place to be respectable (unlike places like UGHH) , but then the other part of me thinks/feels that you guys wanna control too much here. Again, just my opinion. Keep doin your thing I guess...


are you the dude that called Quest and left a 3 hour message screaming cause he banned you from UGHH?


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are you the dude that called Quest and left a 3 hour message screaming cause he banned you from UGHH?


I sure am... That voicemail is Classic!! I even played that over a beat and used it as an outro to one of my Mix CD's years ago. haha

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S.DeEzY4O8 wrote:
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are you the dude that called Quest and left a 3 hour message screaming cause he banned you from UGHH?


I sure am... That voicemail is Classic!! I even played that over a beat and used it as an outro to one of my Mix CD's years ago. haha


But we're the ones who take message boards too seriously?


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But we're the ones who take message boards too seriously?


I'm not sure what you know about that whole incident, but it was done all in good fun! Right after leaving the voicemail, I was right up on the board posting about it even saying that I hoped Quest would post it, and he did. It's as simple as that...

As for you cats takin the board too seriously... Think about it, you guys CHANGE PEOPLES WORDS AND EVEN DELETE THINGS PEOPLE SAY IN POSTS... YOU GUYS LOCK POSTS... YOU GUYS COMPLAIN ABOUT PEOPLE BUMPING OLD POSTS... YOU GUYS WANT EVERYONE TO GET ALONG, etc. I understand to a degree, but there comes a point where you just gotta let people be regardless of how you feel about it.

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YOU GUYS COMPLAIN ABOUT PEOPLE BUMPING OLD POSTS


dude, the other day you dragged up about 10 threads that were at least 12 months old and didnt really add anything of worth. all that happened was a load of new shit got pushed down the pecking order.

I think as a general rule, dont act like a faggot and you wont have any problems

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I think one aspect of this site you may be missing (Wicked), is that each forum has a distinct purpose, Party & Bullshit is specifically for being an ass and conjuring up all method of douchebaggery, My Two Cents deals with new hip-hop, and as such there's a bit of bullshit in there as well, but this forum is designated to the classic shit, this is like the wine and cheese connoisseur section of the board, MTC is like the beer and chips lounge and P&B is pretty much a private gang bang and coke room. As such, no one wants you bringing your sloshy attitude and sloppy seconds, disease ridden cock 'n balls up in here with the civilized folk.

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Also, can we stop beating around the bush? Wicked22 is literally the only problem on this forum. It is personal. It is about him and his faggot antics. He's seriously the only person who here who presents a problem. Wasn't this faggot banned?


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He was and he got in under a diff name. If he just wasn't do defiant and didn't derail so many threads I wouldn't have had an issue with him. The fact is he is like a cancer and when you detect it, you gotta remove it.

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As for you cats takin the board too seriously... Think about it, you guys CHANGE PEOPLES WORDS AND EVEN DELETE THINGS PEOPLE SAY IN POSTS... YOU GUYS LOCK POSTS... YOU GUYS COMPLAIN ABOUT PEOPLE BUMPING OLD POSTS... YOU GUYS WANT EVERYONE TO GET ALONG, etc. I understand to a degree, but there comes a point where you just gotta let people be regardless of how you feel about it.


To my knowledge, I have never had my words changed or deleted or my posts locked, and I'd suggest the same could be said for 99% of the users who post in TROY.

The rules are really very easy to follow, so I don't see why you keep getting your shit up in the mix. If you feel like sharing your radio show rips (which I, for one, have very much appreciated), then by all means please do so. As Step One said, there's a sticky for mixtapes that gets regular views, so maybe dropping them in there is the go (and won't need bumping).

I really can't see any reason to argue the rules any further.

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First and foremost SHARE. Nobody gives a shit what you have unless you're willing to share it. You want to brag, go take out an ad in the newspaper because if you come to this site to gloat don't come at all. There are enough pretentious assholes on those other Digger forums for you to build with.


a nameless dickhead has been doing this in the Weekly Request Thread saying shit like yeah it's great and I've got it blah blah, but this dickhead rarely shares and has records that are frequently asked for.


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Post the name or PM me. If you post it the other mods will make sure things change.

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can we please get rid of Mad Human?, that faggot has ruined T.R.O.Y for me, I can't believe he puts up links to downloads that expire after so many downloads or divshare links that you can't download, do we really want or need that kind of faggotry in T.R.O.Y.? ...no one else provides links like that.


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b.radio wrote:
^ once again, jaz is on point


:cheers: man, the truth is I don't care anymore, I am never going to get through to them, if they shared their shit (like Mad Human used to), I would be fans of their blogs and post comments and tell people to visit their blogs, but if they want to be selfish dickheads that is on them, Mad Human has posted a few decent links on T.R.O.Y....but it's to few and far between you know, T.R.O.Y. is so much better than Tape Maniak and Mad Human's blogs anyway so with that and the many dope blogs out there that do share, that's all I need.


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