Semi-Obscure DJ Premier Productions Compilation

shakeanjake · Post by **shakeanjake** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:31 am

Just threw this together, let me know what you guys think.
Download links and youtube jumps at:
http://duffmancantbreathe.blogspot.com/ ... emier.html

DJ Premier is the total package, the Michael Jordan of East Coast production. Sure, Pete Rock's always had the best horns, RZA's got the dark and cinematic shit on lock and Prince Paul is the undisputed god of innovative sample layering.But as far as crafting a beat for the explicit purpose of providing a complimentary backdrop for an MC to showcase their talents over, Premier is second to none. There's a reason rappers save their best street verses for their Premier track, it's because everyone sounds their best over a Premier beat. If you rap, and you can't tear up a Premier beat, you need to get another hobby.
The main gripe people have about Premier is that his production formula is so rigid. This claim isn't inaccurate, if you drew up a structural outline of every Premier track, 95% of them would be borderline identical: A brief instrumental sample intro for live DJ's to cut up as they see fit, followed by a straightforward, punch-you-in-the-face drum kit under a sample that rises and falls in about the time it takes for a rapper to get a punchline across, with a deftly scratched chorus of perfectly on-beat vocal samples, usually relevant in content to the song's topic. This uniformity is in stark contrast to more avant-garde producers like Madlib and the late J Dilla who rarely tread the same musical terrain twice. Though more creatively experimental, Madlib and Dilla just don't have the quantity of cookie cutter, beat-and-rhyme-marriage street bangers that Premier's catalogue boasts. Premier's formula works, plain and simple. By never deviating from his initial strategy, Premier has maintained a consistency of quality that remains mostly unrivaled by his peers.

This compilation is simply a collection of Premier tracks that I found exceptional. I tried to omit the obvious stuff (Gang Starr albums and classics everyone already has: Come Clean, New York State of Mind, Unbelievable etc.) in favor of songs that don't get the shine they deserve. Enjoy.

Afu-RaגגגLyrical Monster

All Cityגגג The Actual

AZ גגג The Come Up (Produced by DJ Premier)

Bahamadiaגגג Rugged Ruff

Big Daddy Kaneגגג Just Rhymin' With Kane feat Just Ice

Big Lגגג 139 (feat Tony Touch)

Big Shugגגג On the Record

Biz Markieגגג And I Rock

Blaq Poetגגג we gonna ill

Boot Camp Clikגגג Take It Personal Freestyle (Sean Price, Steele, Buckshot)

Brand Nubianגגג The Return

Cee-loגגג Evening News

Cormegaגגג Make It Clear

D.I.T.C.גגג Time to Get This Money

D'Angeloגגג Devil's Pie

D'Angelo ft. AZ גגגYou're My Lady (DJ Premier remix)

Devin The Dudeגגג Doobie Ashtray

Dilated Peoplesגגג Clock Work

Gang Starrגגג The Piece Maker

Ghostface Killahגגג Return Of Theodore Unit Ft Wigs and Trife Da God

House of Repzגגג U Gotta Love Us (Street)

J Rockגגג The Real One (Co-produced by DJ Premier & J Rock)

J Rockגגג Neighborhood Drug Dealer Remix

J-Liveגגג The Best Part

Just-Iceגגג History

Just-Iceגגג Gangstas Dont Cry

Keith Murray גגגMy Style Is Incredible

KRS-ONE גגג Wannabemceez

Leaders Of The New Schoolגגג Freestyle with Kurious Jorge

Little Vicגגג The Exorcist

Ludacrisגגג MVP

M.O.P.גגג Downtown Swinga 96

Mark Ronsonגגג Just (Feat. Blaq Poet) (DJ Premier Remix)

Nas גגגMemory Lane (Sittin' In Da Park) (DJ Premier Demo Mix)

Nas ft 50 Cent & Gang StarrגגגRidin Time

Non Phixionגגג Rock Stars

Pitch Blackגגג It's All Real

Pitch Blackגגג Rep Tha Hardest[Prod. By DJ Premier]

Ras Kassגגג Goldyn Chyld

Reef The Lost Cauzeגגג Livin Proof Freestyle

Reksגגג Say Goodnight

Royce Da 5'9" גגג Hit Em!

Royce Da 5'9"גגג Royce Is Like

Sean Priceגגג Megasean

Shyheimגגג On and On [Premier Remix]

Smooth Bגגג Game Over

Snoop Doggגגג The One And Only

The X-Ecutionersגגג Premier's X-Ecution

Xzibitגגג What A Mess

Zeebra גגגUntouchable
-Edit: took Choclair off since it's not Premier.

step one · Post by **step one** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:25 am

couple of bits on there I dont have/didnt know about

gimantalon · Post by **gimantalon** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:08 am

not everything is produced by DJ Premier, i see a couple of mistakes. Don't know about the freestyles... i'm going to check it when i'm home. Dope anyway!

serch4beatz · Post by **serch4beatz** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:10 am

yeh choclair for instance

step one · Post by **step one** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:44 am

Ghostface Killahגגג Return Of Theodore Unit Ft Wigs and Trife Da God

is this that joint from a few years ago over the Crooklyn Dodgers beat?

shakeanjake · Post by **shakeanjake** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:03 am

gimantalon wrote:not everything is produced by DJ Premier, i see a couple of mistakes. Don't know about the freestyles... i'm going to check it when i'm home. Dope anyway!

serch4beatz wrote:yeh choclair for instance

Good catch on the choclair, meant to take that off the playlist. The freestyles are all over premier beats. Are you sure there are other mistakes?

shakeanjake · Post by **shakeanjake** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:04 am

step one wrote:
Ghostface Killahגגג Return Of Theodore Unit Ft Wigs and Trife Da God
is this that joint from a few years ago over the Crooklyn Dodgers beat?

yeah it is. Shame that that's the only time Ghost graced a primo beat.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:14 am

Jake - I like your blog and whatnot, but after this post I'm going to ask that you put updates in the "Blog Updates" thread ... maybe I'll just make it a stickie if it becomes popular enough. Thanks in advance.

shakeanjake · Post by **shakeanjake** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:51 am

Thun wrote:Jake - I like your blog and whatnot, but after this post I'm going to ask that you put updates in the "Blog Updates" thread ... maybe I'll just make it a stickie if it becomes popular enough. Thanks in advance.

Will do.

gimantalon · Post by **gimantalon** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:48 pm

D.I.T.C.גגג Time to Get This Money PRODUCED BY AMED
Nas ft 50 Cent & Gang StarrגגגRidin Time PRODUCED BY CLARK KENT

not being disrespectful, but you can clearly see you got them all from the free internet. you should have at least the ditc 12inch!! and whoever on the internet putted that bootleg out with saying gang starr did a joint with 50 cent need to be raped with a cactus, just out of principle. c'mon, guru would never rap with 50 cent :D.

but shakeanjake, i'm a nice guy, and it's cool you promote premo... word!!

ghostface with killah priest on premo beat

vaporized2 · Post by **vaporized2** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:51 pm

nice didn't know about that biz track.

shakeanjake wrote:
step one wrote:
Ghostface Killahגגג Return Of Theodore Unit Ft Wigs and Trife Da God
is this that joint from a few years ago over the Crooklyn Dodgers beat?
yeah it is. Shame that that's the only time Ghost graced a primo beat

check last post in the group home blends thread

shakeanjake · Post by **shakeanjake** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:37 pm

gimantalon wrote:D.I.T.C.גגג Time to Get This Money PRODUCED BY AMED
Nas ft 50 Cent & Gang StarrגגגRidin Time PRODUCED BY CLARK KENT

not being disrespectful, but you can clearly see you got them all from the free internet. you should have at least the ditc 12inch!! and whoever on the internet putted that bootleg out with saying gang starr did a joint with 50 cent need to be raped with a cactus, just out of principle. c'mon, guru would never rap with 50 cent :D.

but shakeanjake, i'm a nice guy, and it's cool you promote premo... word!!

ghostface with killah priest on premo beat

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(no, this freestyle is not produced by dj premier)

well, this was both embarrassing and enlightening. Looks like it was one of those deals where he just hooked up the scratch chorus. Good lookin out. I think I'm gonna redo the upload, replacing the THREE *slaps head* mistakes with three other relatively unknown Preem tracks, there's so fucking many to choose from, after all.

gimantalon · Post by **gimantalon** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:31 pm

you can check that site i made for no mistakes:

http://trackology.djpremierblog.com/

99% right :D

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:47 pm

Not referring to your comp but this whole internet misinformation thing reminds me of the Napster era when Iגd download joints tagged like גCompany Flow- 8 Steps To Perfection (DJ Premier mix)ג or גJ-Live- Bragginג Writes (DJ Premier mix)ג only to find out they werenגt nothin but cuts off the New York Reality Check 101 mix. Ignant mofos.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:56 pm

I don't think anyone needs to be shamed for making a mistake. Isn't this why forums like this exist?

Also if you're from fucking Belguim or wherever and you got into this music circa 1999 you might want to pump the brakes on lecturing ... Anyone about anything. If it doesn't apply to you then you shouldn't get offended.

Mark 563 · Post by **Mark 563** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:24 pm

aleph wrote:Not referring to your comp but this whole internet misinformation thing reminds me of the Napster era when Iגd download joints tagged like גCompany Flow- 8 Steps To Perfection (DJ Premier mix)ג or גJ-Live- Bragginג Writes (DJ Premier mix)ג only to find out they werenגt nothin but cuts off the New York Reality Check 101 mix. Ignant mofos.

It's not just the internets that gets these things messed up.

In 2004 Delicious Vinyl re-released Masta Ace's 'Born To Roll' 12" with a previously unreleased so-called DJ Premier remix, which DJ Premier apparently had nothing to do with. The mix up seems to have come from the word 'premeire' being mentioned at the beginning. It's said to actually be an LA Jay beat.

http://www.discogs.com/Masta-Ace-Incorp ... ase/514562

Huldrich Bullsh!t · Post by **Huldrich Bullsh!t** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:47 pm

gimantalon wrote:D.I.T.C.גגג Time to Get This Money PRODUCED BY AMED
Nas ft 50 Cent & Gang StarrגגגRidin Time PRODUCED BY CLARK KENT

not being disrespectful, but you can clearly see you got them all from the free internet. you should have at least the ditc 12inch!! and whoever on the internet putted that bootleg out with saying gang starr did a joint with 50 cent need to be raped with a cactus, just out of principle. c'mon, guru would never rap with 50 cent :D.

but shakeanjake, i'm a nice guy, and it's cool you promote premo... word!!

ghostface with killah priest on premo beat

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(no, this freestyle is not produced by dj premier)

why not? i mean well never know since he cant do it anymore

most of the underground heroes you adore don't see this as narrow as you.

Premo he has shown love to 50 on alot of his mixtapes and said he'd like to work with him. im sure if premo had done a remix for 50 and asked Guru to jump on that to make it an official gangstarr rmx (like he did with Macy Gray, that spice girl chick and others) Guru wouldn't have said no - before their split obviously

8ks · Post by **8ks** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:52 pm

Thun wrote:I don't think anyone needs to be shamed for making a mistake. Isn't this why forums like this exist?

Also if you're from fucking Belguim or wherever and you got into this music circa 1999 you might want to pump the brakes on lecturing ... Anyone about anything. If it doesn't apply to you then you shouldn't get offended.

coming from belgium doesn't have to mean you get in touch with this music roughly 20 years after evolved. just saying.

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:55 pm

Mark 563 wrote:
aleph wrote:Not referring to your comp but this whole internet misinformation thing reminds me of the Napster era when Iגd download joints tagged like גCompany Flow- 8 Steps To Perfection (DJ Premier mix)ג or גJ-Live- Bragginג Writes (DJ Premier mix)ג only to find out they werenגt nothin but cuts off the New York Reality Check 101 mix. Ignant mofos.
It's not just the internets that gets these things messed up.

In 2004 Delicious Vinyl re-released Masta Ace's 'Born To Roll' 12" with a previously unreleased so-called DJ Premier remix, which DJ Premier apparently had nothing to do with. The mix up seems to have come from the word 'premeire' being mentioned at the beginning. It's said to actually be an LA Jay beat.

http://www.discogs.com/Masta-Ace-Incorp ... ase/514562

That is laaaaame. If the labels can't get it straight it's no wonder these fictions perpetuate.

step one · Post by **step one** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:57 pm

Huldrich Bullsh!t wrote:
why not? i mean well never know since he cant do it anymore

most of the underground heroes you adore don't see this as narrow as you.

Premo he has shown love to 50 on alot of his mixtapes and said he'd like to work with him. im sure if premo had done a remix for 50 and asked Guru to jump on that to make it an official gangstarr rmx (like he did with Macy Gray, that spice girl chick and others) Guru wouldn't have said no - before their split obviously

This. 50s worked with Onyx, Jam Master Jay, Nas, Clark Kent, Hi Tek, Mobb Deep and MOP - you really think Primo & Guru wouldnt do a track with him?!

Mark 563 · Post by **Mark 563** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:05 pm

step one wrote:
Huldrich Bullsh!t wrote:
why not? i mean well never know since he cant do it anymore

most of the underground heroes you adore don't see this as narrow as you.

Premo he has shown love to 50 on alot of his mixtapes and said he'd like to work with him. im sure if premo had done a remix for 50 and asked Guru to jump on that to make it an official gangstarr rmx (like he did with Macy Gray, that spice girl chick and others) Guru wouldn't have said no - before their split obviously
This. 50s worked with Onyx, Jam Master Jay, Nas, Clark Kent, Hi Tek, Mobb Deep and MOP - you really think Primo & Guru wouldnt do a track with him?!

Are people forgetting that Guru also worked for quite some time with 'Super Producer' Solar? Surely if he was prepared to work with him, he'd have had no doubts about working with 50?

shakeanjake · Post by **shakeanjake** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:24 pm

step one wrote:
Huldrich Bullsh!t wrote:
why not? i mean well never know since he cant do it anymore

most of the underground heroes you adore don't see this as narrow as you.

Premo he has shown love to 50 on alot of his mixtapes and said he'd like to work with him. im sure if premo had done a remix for 50 and asked Guru to jump on that to make it an official gangstarr rmx (like he did with Macy Gray, that spice girl chick and others) Guru wouldn't have said no - before their split obviously
This. 50s worked with Onyx, Jam Master Jay, Nas, Clark Kent, Hi Tek, Mobb Deep and MOP - you really think Primo & Guru wouldnt do a track with him?!

I mean, Premier already gave 50 one of his beats, Shut Ur Bloodclot Mouth, it came out last year or the year before. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkI9d64o4sQ

Freezy Pazzy · Post by **Freezy Pazzy** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:24 pm

Mark 563 wrote:In 2004 Delicious Vinyl re-released Masta Ace's 'Born To Roll' 12" with a previously unreleased so-called DJ Premier remix, which DJ Premier apparently had nothing to do with. The mix up seems to have come from the word 'premeire' being mentioned at the beginning. It's said to actually be an LA Jay beat.

Very interesting example here, because there's something about this song that I've been wondering about FOR YEARS now.
During the intro, just before the beat drops, you can clearly hear someone shouting "DJ Premier!" in the background.
Add to this the fact that it clearly sounds like something we could have heard on "Daily operation" or "The sun rises in the east", the way the sample is flipped, the kicks & snares and the beat pattern... If you really think about it, it doesn't sound like any other track on the whole album.
And one last thing : The scratches on the chorus sound very similar to his style.

So, what if the credits were wrong and Preem produced, or co-produced that song? And if he has NOTHING to do with this particular song, why can his name be heard on the intro?

Shit, I wanna know.

step one · Post by **step one** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:15 am

Freezy Pazzy wrote:
Mark 563 wrote:In 2004 Delicious Vinyl re-released Masta Ace's 'Born To Roll' 12" with a previously unreleased so-called DJ Premier remix, which DJ Premier apparently had nothing to do with. The mix up seems to have come from the word 'premeire' being mentioned at the beginning. It's said to actually be an LA Jay beat.
Very interesting example here, because there's something about this song that I've been wondering about FOR YEARS now.
During the intro, just before the beat drops, you can clearly hear someone shouting "DJ Premier!" in the background.
Add to this the fact that it clearly sounds like something we could have heard on "Daily operation" or "The sun rises in the east", the way the sample is flipped, the kicks & snares and the beat pattern... If you really think about it, it doesn't sound like any other track on the whole album.
And one last thing : The scratches on the chorus sound very similar to his style.

So, what if the credits were wrong and Preem produced, or co-produced that song? And if he has NOTHING to do with this particular song, why can his name be heard on the intro?

Shit, I wanna know.

LA Jay just signed up to the forum (he posted in the Pharcyde thread), he could probably clear it up.

snitchel · Post by **snitchel** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:39 pm

There is no dj premier remix, they just used the "Saturday Night Live (LA Jay remix)" on that vinyl

The scratches were done by premo on the album version (and also for the LA Jay remix since it's just the same acapella), that's why they say his name in the beginning... and the album version was produced by Uneek

Freezy Pazzy · Post by **Freezy Pazzy** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:42 pm

Ok, it makes sense now.
The crazy thing is, Preemo was already famous in 93, so I don't understand why he wasn't credited in the liner notes. Maybe he can be seen in the video? I don't remember, it's been a while since I've seen it.

And IMHO Uneek really emulated his style with this particular beat, which lead to more confusion.

Thanks for the infos Snitchel.

KITFUNK · Post by **KITFUNK** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:47 am

Are you sure Premo produced Megasean?

Seems highly unlikely.

shakeanjake · Post by **shakeanjake** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:03 pm

KITFUNK wrote:Are you sure Premo produced Megasean?

Seems highly unlikely.

The beat he rhymes over is a Gangstarr song, Blowin Up The Spot.

professorelemental · Post by **professorelemental** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:51 am

gimantalon wrote:you can check that site i made for no mistakes:

http://trackology.djpremierblog.com/

99% right :D

You made that? just wanted to say thanks, I'm a completist of Premo ( who isnt) and that site helped me track down the last few joints i didnt have. Including the really really shit ones.

Now we all have our premier faves, but what's the worst track he ever did? For my money its either that Emma Bunton remix that r & b one i heard recently with Talib kweli, the name escapes me but it was fucking horrible. That said, man's got to get paid, so we can let him off the odd dodgy track....

KITFUNK · Post by **KITFUNK** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:05 am

shakeanjake wrote:
KITFUNK wrote:Are you sure Premo produced Megasean?

Seems highly unlikely.
The beat he rhymes over is a Gangstarr song, Blowin Up The Spot.

I knew that...