Big Daddy Kane vs Biz Markie...Better debut LP?

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:13 pm

Juice Crew legends and Rap vets, but who had the better debut album between the 2 in 1988?

http://www.mediafire.com/?w5zxdqmzojz

Long Live The Kane
Raw (Remix)
Set It Off
The Day You're Mine
On The Bugged Tip
Ain't No Half-Steppin'
I'll Take You There
Just Rhymin' With Biz
Mister Cee's Master Plan
Word To The Mother (Land)

Or

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http://www.mediafire.com/?ed3jy0t0gym

1 Pickin' Boogers 4:42
2 Albee Square Mall 4:43
3 Biz Is Goin' Off 4:50
4 Return Of The Biz Dance 3:59
5 Vapors 4:33
6 Make The Music With Your Mouth Biz (Special Marley Marl Remix)
7 Biz Dance (Part One) (Special Marley Marl Remix)
8 Nobody Beats The Biz (Special Marley Marl Remix)
9 This Is Something For The Radio 5:14
10 Cool V's Tribute To Scratching

choose one :D

CRASH DDZ · Post by **CRASH DDZ** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:58 pm

At the time of..and currently..The Biz.

Mark 563 · Post by **Mark 563** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:20 am

Huge Biz Markie fan, but Kane by a mile.

In fact, I rate both albums extremely highly, but still Kane's is the better for me.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:42 am

Biz's has the better beats, quite easily. It wins.

Da Publisher · Post by **Da Publisher** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:09 am

Goin Off

........

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:11 am

Nobody beats the Biz.

Kane's debut is obviously a classic and Kane is technically a better rapper than Biz - I mean, Kane wrote Biz' verses FFS - but Biz had the better beats (word to Thun), funnier subject matter, and overall better execution, just making it a more enjoyable listen, IMO.

Plus, "Pickin' Boogers" and "Vapors" are just fucking awesome.

Bigg Boss Luciano · Post by **Bigg Boss Luciano** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:40 am

B-I-G-D-A-Double D-Y-K-A-N-E

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:05 am

From those opening chords by Leo Nocentelli melting into reverb to the "Whatchoogonsaynow?" "PEACE", I'm hooked.

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:59 pm

BDK in the lead, both had great beats but I'm with Thun Biz's album does have better beats and would be my chosen album if it did not have the cheesy ballad.

king beef · Post by **king beef** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:35 pm

No fair!

These albums are so part of my childhood.

Man, I like the Biz beats better, however, after reading several interviews where Biz stated Kane wrote most his raps for him.

I gotta roll with Big Daddy Kane.

That hurt...

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:13 pm

king beef wrote:No fair!

These albums are so part of my childhood.

Man, I like the Biz beats better, however, after reading several interviews where Biz stated Kane wrote most his raps for him.

I gotta roll with Big Daddy Kane.

That hurt...

haha, I think you will find it's the same for most of us king beef.

Beastly Swagger · Post by **Beastly Swagger** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:50 am

Kane >

clark bent · Post by **clark bent** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:04 pm

bdk has never made a great album

i think goin off is a little overrated but its definitely a better listen in this match up

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:52 pm

Kane. I like "Goin off" and all but it's not even close to me.

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:03 pm

^Yep BDK is long in the lead in this poll.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:20 pm

Virtually nobody in this forum listens to any black American rappers from prior to 1992, though, so I'm guessing that plenty of votes are straight up lies.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:52 pm

I dunno, too many classic lines/verses on the Kane album. I'm more of a beat dude though and would probably give more listens to Biz nowadays since a lot of joints on the Kane album were overplayed to death back then.
It's like every single "old school" mix ever has at least a joint or two from that Kane album on it. Reminds how I would be happy if I never ever heard South Bronx and The Bridge Is Over again in my life.

Send One · Post by **Send One** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:17 am

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:27 am

Verge wrote:Reminds how I would be happy if I never ever heard South Bronx and The Bridge Is Over again in my life.

Huldrich Bullsh!t · Post by **Huldrich Bullsh!t** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:57 am

clark bent wrote:bdk has never made a great album

i think goin off is a little overrated but its definitely a better listen in this match up

he never made an album that completely matched his abilities as a rapper. (for me he's a top 10 rapper and should easily make it into a top 20 from anyone) - but he doesnt have an album that i would rate that high but i think he still made some good albums and this is probably his best.

with songs like
long live
raw
set it off
and aint no half steppin

don't see how anybody can hate on the produciton

Thun wrote:Virtually nobody in this forum listens to any black American rappers from prior to 1992, though, so I'm guessing that plenty of votes are straight up lies.

i know alot of what you say is probably hyperbole and TROY is definitely mid nineties oriented but this is still a strange statement to me

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:27 am

Huldrich Bullsh!t wrote:
clark bent wrote:bdk has never made a great album
he never made an album that completely matched his abilities as a rapper.

But he did. This one.

Huldrich Bullsh!t · Post by **Huldrich Bullsh!t** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:39 am

aleph wrote:
Huldrich Bullsh!t wrote:
clark bent wrote:bdk has never made a great album
he never made an album that completely matched his abilities as a rapper.
But he did. This one.

i wouldnt put it into my personal top 10 or top 20 hip hop albums...

clark bent · Post by **clark bent** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:32 am

Huldrich Bullsh!t wrote:
aleph wrote:
Huldrich Bullsh!t wrote:
clark bent wrote:bdk has never made a great album
he never made an album that completely matched his abilities as a rapper.
But he did. This one.
i wouldnt put it into my personal top 10 or top 20 hip hop albums...

or even top 75-100

no one can or should ever front on bdk skills as an emcee...because he was incredible...but for whatever reason that never translasted itself into any great full lengths....it really is one of the great mysteries of hip hop

aleph · Post by **aleph** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:14 pm

Long Live The Kane easily top 10 for me. Probably a generational thing, altho I have absolutely no evidence to back that up

mudfoot · Post by **mudfoot** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:50 pm

I voted for Kane also. Long Live The Kane needs one of those deluxe 2CD reissues.

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:28 am

mudfoot wrote:I voted for Kane also. Long Live The Kane needs one of those deluxe 2CD reissues.

Drayz92 · Post by **Drayz92** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:38 pm

Long Live The Kane !