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Runaway Slave (1992) Vs Stunts, Blunts and Hip Hop (1992)

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:38 am
by Jaz
Two certified DITC classics and two of the greatest Hip Hop albums in Hip Hop history, but which of these two do you rate more?

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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:44 am
by Jaz
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:54 am
by claaa7
two incredible classics that has earned a place in any serious hip-hop fiends collection. as much as i love Diamond D's debut I have to go with "Runaway Slave" here, everything from the beats and rhymes to the guest verses, the interludes and the jazzy digging vibe of the project makes it one of my favorite albums of all time. definitely top 10!

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:07 am
by DJMIKENICE
Extra tough call but i go with Diamond D but nut by much. They are both dope

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:44 am
by TheBigSleep
Both were released September 22nd, 1992.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:17 pm
by Verge
This is one I'll have to marinate on. Both got an insane amount of replay for me, both in my opinion are classics.. Gonna have to give them both thorough front to back listens this weekend before voting. I may already be leaning towards Runaway Slave though just because there's a couple of joints on Diamond's that I never really dug, might be a higher highs lower lows type deal. Not sure yet though.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:24 pm
by Jed_Thomas
Two seriously good albums but Stunts Blunts and Hip Hop just edges it for me

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:27 pm
by Tim Burton
Nice match up...it's such a hard call. I went with Diamond D because back in the day that tape got a bit more play but I LOVE both of these albums.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:00 am
by drunkmonk36
yeh Diamond for me.

my fav MC/Producer from the DITC clan.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:54 am
by grass
Runaway Slave since its my favourite album of all time.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:32 am
by Jaz
I see a lot of comments about Runaway Slave but Stunts, Blunts and Hip Hop is in the lead...

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:56 am
by Thun
Runaway Slave is conceptually and sonically superior, which is a major accomplishment because SB&HH is a bona fide classic.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:59 am
by Thun
Jaz wrote:I see a lot of comments about Runaway Slave but Stunts, Blunts and Hip Hop is in the lead...
A lot of borks are terrified of the racial politics of the former and tickled pink by the carefree subject matter of the latter.

I can see Diamond D's "on and on like popcorn" as being an anodyne much like Busta Rhymes' "raaah raaah like a Dungeon Dragon" capable of bringing a smile to the existentially wary face of even the hardest beret-clad cafe-frequenter of the Left Bank.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:23 pm
by step one
Thun wrote:
A lot of borks are terrified of the racial politics of the former and tickled pink by the carefree subject matter of the latter.
ah,so thats why white Europeans dont listen to Public Enemy then.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:55 pm
by TheBigSleep
Thun wrote:Runaway Slave is conceptually and sonically superior, which is a major accomplishment because SB&HH is a bona fide classic.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:11 pm
by Thun
step one wrote:
Thun wrote:
A lot of borks are terrified of the racial politics of the former and tickled pink by the carefree subject matter of the latter.
ah,so thats why white Europeans dont listen to Public Enemy then.
Yeah I expounded on the joke above, so it isn't quite so clever for you to refer to a previous iteration. Faggot.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:21 pm
by Y@k Bollocks
Thun wrote:A lot of borks are terrified of the racial politics of the former and tickled pink by the carefree subject matter of the latter.
Pretty much. Runaway Slave is a bit close to the bone for me.

I can relate to Stunts, Blunts and Hip Hop more. Observations such as young people in cinemas talking all loud, telling all the good parts, while I sit there praying to myself "please I hope they don't start", and have to get a member of staff to eject them.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:22 pm
by Thun
Y@k Bollocks wrote:
Thun wrote:A lot of borks are terrified of the racial politics of the former and tickled pink by the carefree subject matter of the latter.
Pretty much. Runaway Slave is a bit close to the bone for me.

I can relate to Stunts, Blunts and Hip Hop more. Observations such as young people in cinemas talking all loud, telling all the good parts, while I sit there praying to myself "please I hope they don't start", and have to get a member of staff to eject them.
SEE?

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:51 pm
by clark bent
lord knows ive tried...but i just dont see the massive appeal of runaway slave...the singles are all classics but most of the rest of the album drags and kinda sounds like one long song after a while...its by no means a bad record but its nowhere near classic to me

stunts on the other hand is right in my wheelhouse and one of my favorite albums of all time...the samples on it are incredible and it has a ridiculous amount of great songs...sure its too long and at times is all over the place but the amount of top notch material on it rivals any album

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:56 pm
by step one
Thun wrote:
step one wrote:
Thun wrote:
A lot of borks are terrified of the racial politics of the former and tickled pink by the carefree subject matter of the latter.
ah,so thats why white Europeans dont listen to Public Enemy then.
Yeah I expounded on the joke above, so it isn't quite so clever for you to refer to a previous iteration. Faggot.
So sensitive. Hormone trouble?

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:57 pm
by Thun
Runaway Slave is less diverse sonically and most of the tracks aren't "bangers" in the usual sense but it is harder (nh) and communciates a sense of urgency as well as a depth of purpose very effectively. Not for everyone, and I expect most would side with Diamond D, but that's how I see it.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:04 pm
by Thun
step one wrote:
Thun wrote:
step one wrote:
Thun wrote:
A lot of borks are terrified of the racial politics of the former and tickled pink by the carefree subject matter of the latter.
ah,so thats why white Europeans dont listen to Public Enemy then.
Yeah I expounded on the joke above, so it isn't quite so clever for you to refer to a previous iteration. Faggot.
So sensitive. Hormone trouble?
Nah, it's because I wrote an essay on a Das Efx b-side and I like Grand Puba's verse on "Step To The Rear."

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:13 pm
by step one
Thun wrote:
Nah, it's because I still havent got over a comment you made last week"

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:20 pm
by Thun
step one wrote: I earnestly and embarassingly relate my boyhood wet dreams of DJ'ing at the Tunnel

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:31 pm
by step one
Thun wrote:
step one wrote: I earnestly and embarassingly relate my boyhood wet dreams of DJ'ing at the Tunnel
Yeah, what kind of teenage dj would want to play at one of the most famous clubs in nyc?
Oh that was SO 8embarrassing wasnt it?

What was your goal when you were a teen? Find some real life friends?

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:56 pm
by Blockhead
Went with Show and AG by a hair. Obviously, they're both classics but there's something about the darker songs have more longevity with me.
A song like"40 Acres and my props" is a song Diamond could never have made.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:57 pm
by Jaz
step one wrote:
Thun wrote:
step one wrote: I earnestly and embarassingly relate my boyhood wet dreams of DJ'ing at the Tunnel
Yeah, what kind of teenage dj would want to play at one of the most famous clubs in nyc?
Oh that was SO 8embarrassing wasnt it?

What was your goal when you were a teen? Find some real life friends?
I know I might seem like a hypocrite here, but less poster/mod baiting and more discussion please...I am still shocked at clark bent's view on Runaway Slave.

I voted for Runaway Slave, 2 tracks I didn't really like on Stunts, Blunts...were "Confused" and "Pass Dat Shit"

I loved everything on R.S.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:13 pm
by spexxx
Diamond D holmes.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:23 pm
by bbatson1
Stunts Blunts all day. Diamond D was in rare form on that one. I like his rapping on it as much as the production.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:30 pm
by Verge
Runaway... Runaway Slave.