Official Wu and Wu-Filliates Rarities and Demos Thread

EichTurner · Post by **EichTurner** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:34 am

Versive wrote:Yeah, if it weren't for the intro where explains he's owed for his feature on Grind Date, you wouldn't even know he was dissing them.

I've also always thought there were some subliminal Wu disses on Stakes is High. "The only Italians you know is iceys" and such, but that's one of my favorite albums of all time so I never really sweat it.

yeah, that line exactly. most of it's just on gangsta rap in general though but wu so prominent in the genre you get the feeling de la wouldn't like them at that point in time, but who's to say..

45ReC · Post by **45ReC** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:17 am

Versive wrote:Yeah, if it weren't for the intro where explains he's owed for his feature on Grind Date, you wouldn't even know he was dissing them.

I've also always thought there were some subliminal Wu disses on Stakes is High. "The only Italians you know is iceys" and such, but that's one of my favorite albums of all time so I never really sweat it.

Possibly, but I doubt that. The Wu represented the true MC from the days of a Cold Crush standpoint. If you dissin that, you dissin' yaself & the culture. The impact they made was meteorific. There's no perfect path to greatness.

Fritz · Post by **Fritz** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:28 am

EichTurner wrote:
Versive wrote:
step one wrote:that Ghostface solo version of My Guitar was on an AV8 12" with 'Pretty Tony Shoulda Got His Dough' (the De La dis) on the other side.

http://www.discogs.com/Theodore-Unit-My ... ase/307668
Damn, that De La diss aint bad either even though it fucks with my emotions. I wouldn't mind owning that.
yeah for sure .. stakes was high even fucked with my emotions cause it all seemed like an indirect diss to wu-tang is this the diss track though you're talking about though.. if so not so bad..
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great thread btw.

Enjoy
http://www.sharebeast.com/jb6yu785tay0

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:48 am

^Oh, I already had both songs on mp3. I meant the physical copy. Thanks though.

45ReC wrote:
Versive wrote:Yeah, if it weren't for the intro where explains he's owed for his feature on Grind Date, you wouldn't even know he was dissing them.

I've also always thought there were some subliminal Wu disses on Stakes is High. "The only Italians you know is iceys" and such, but that's one of my favorite albums of all time so I never really sweat it.
Possibly, but I doubt that. The Wu represented the true MC from the days of a Cold Crush standpoint. If you dissin that, you dissin' yaself & the culture. The impact they made was meteorific. There's no perfect path to greatness.

I mean if I had to really break it down, I'd say that more than anything they were just poking fun at the seriousness of it all. Wu popularized the whole mafioso shit at that time and De La definitely saw that and was like "Yo, we're from Long Island. You aint Italian. Half the people we know are Italians." It's a funny little jab at the whole trend.

I think they definitely had the utmost respect for the Wu as MCs. Aside from what you mentioned there was the whole Prince Paul-RZA connection.

bignormy · Post by **bignormy** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:59 pm

Versive wrote:All of his stuff is for sale via the Fame Labs website. I posted 2 loosies on page 1.

Here's a sampler for the mixtape God in the Ghetto, which I consider his best release: http://www.famelabsmusic.com/media/Fame ... tto_v1.zip If I remember correctly this includes like 8 of the 16 tracks.

Is that website active? I tried to order some cds but the page was broken.

bignormy · Post by **bignormy** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:16 pm

bignormy wrote:
Versive wrote:All of his stuff is for sale via the Fame Labs website. I posted 2 loosies on page 1.

Here's a sampler for the mixtape God in the Ghetto, which I consider his best release: http://www.famelabsmusic.com/media/Fame ... tto_v1.zip If I remember correctly this includes like 8 of the 16 tracks.
Is that website active? I tried to order some cds but the page was broken.

Never mind, I received prompt email replies saying the store was temporarily down.

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:27 am

Versive wrote:^Oh, I already had both songs on mp3. I meant the physical copy. Thanks though.

45ReC wrote:
Versive wrote:Yeah, if it weren't for the intro where explains he's owed for his feature on Grind Date, you wouldn't even know he was dissing them.

I've also always thought there were some subliminal Wu disses on Stakes is High. "The only Italians you know is iceys" and such, but that's one of my favorite albums of all time so I never really sweat it.
Possibly, but I doubt that. The Wu represented the true MC from the days of a Cold Crush standpoint. If you dissin that, you dissin' yaself & the culture. The impact they made was meteorific. There's no perfect path to greatness.
I mean if I had to really break it down, I'd say that more than anything they were just poking fun at the seriousness of it all. Wu popularized the whole mafioso shit at that time and De La definitely saw that and was like "Yo, we're from Long Island. You aint Italian. Half the people we know are Italians." It's a funny little jab at the whole trend.

I think they definitely had the utmost respect for the Wu as MCs. Aside from what you mentioned there was the whole Prince Paul-RZA connection.

Yeah, around that period De La did a pretty in depth interview where they said they would praise say, Raekwon for the artistry, but not the subject matter. They bought up the need for more balance, that around the mid-90s the radio and tv was dominated by materialistic rap, they mentioned Nas actually (even on Illmatic you have lines like 'be having dreams that I'm a gangster').

EichTurner · Post by **EichTurner** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:43 am

^^ cool, thanks for clearing that up. yeah i was about to say there's no way wu tang was excluded from de la's opinions on stakes is high.. i think it's directed at all gangsta rap.. even nas. 'fear of a black tangent' as busdriver would say.. it's definitely weird though cause they're both so great. you wouldn't happen know where to find that interview nowadays would you?

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:25 pm

I had tons of magazines that I threw away (stupidly), I don't think that interview was in an American mag, I think it was most likely the 100th issue of Hiphop Connection (HHC), since they were on the first cover I think (or one of the earliest issues) they were interviewed for their anniversary issue. It's definitely that magazine and probably the 100th issue. Maybe wrong on the issue number but they're on the cover.

I haven't read it for over ten years but they mentioned stuff like how crime rappers don't change their subject matter, like 'You may have described your life on your first lp, up to getting signed, but are you trying to say your life hasn't changed?', how the whole crime mentality is bullshit in real life, a dead end. BTW- I paraphrased the bit about Rae, they just said something like they would praise him for the poetry (implying not his subject matter), but the Wu weren't directly criticised.

Actually, on a tangent, in 97 / 98 there was a Jungle Brothers interview in an indie mag where they mentioned the prevalence of gangsta rap, mentioning things like their sons knowing all the words to 'Who Shot Ya' if it came on, but also how something like Nas' 'Black Girl Lost' is a beautiful song or something. Masta Ace did that 'Ya Hardcore' track I think because he was so disappointed to see kids singing along to Mad Lion's 'Shoot to Kill' or something at a Zulu Nation event.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:30 pm

Alright then. Back to the music...

Killah Priest & Nas - The Saints
http://www.divshare.com/download/17477458-2c3
off Dirty Harry - The Warriors mixtape (2005)

Here are a bunch of tracks I got from wutangworld.com, most of which appeared on random mixtapes, singles, etc.
http://www.divshare.com/download/17477686-f81
DL contains:
CCF Division - Warzone ft. La the Darkman, Prodigal Sunn, 60 Second Assassin & Timbo King
Ghostface Killah - Real Niggaz ft. Planet Asia
Inspectah Deck - Freestyle ft. Talib Kweli & Bad Seed
Killah Priest - Angels
Killah Priest - Welcome
La the Darkman - Pain in Many Forms ft. Bowtie & Kool G Rap
Masta Killa - Digi Warfare
Raekwon - War Is Hell
Shyheim - Represent ft. Sunz of Man & Ras Kass
Tekitha - Fantasy
Tekitha - You ft. Ghostface Killah
Timbo King - Armoured Truck ft. Masta Killa
Timbo King - Bloody Battlegrounds ft. 33 the Great
Method Man - Ice Cream Demo

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:21 pm

Alright, this is really weird. I was checking out this blog http://backpackeressence.blogspot.com/ and for some reason was drawn to this one single by a group I've never heard of called Da Last Future. http://www.4shared.com/rar/UuahI6xu/Da_ ... _Hell.html? (you gotta sign up but it's free and trust me it's worth it just for this single)

So I download it and put it on and who do I hear, but the fuckin Sunz of Man. Now maybe I'm just totally out of the loop on this, but I had no idea Sunz were doing music in 1994 let alone putting out records under a different name. It looks like this downolad is missing one track (Mental Combat II), but this is quite a find nonetheless, for me at least.

Any of yous guys known about this? If so, anybody got that missing track?

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:07 pm

Versive wrote:Alright, this is really weird. I was checking out this blog http://backpackeressence.blogspot.com/ and for some reason was drawn to this one single by a group I've never heard of called Da Last Future. http://www.4shared.com/rar/UuahI6xu/Da_ ... _Hell.html? (you gotta sign up but it's free and trust me it's worth it just for this single)

So I download it and put it on and who do I hear, but the fuckin Sunz of Man. Now maybe I'm just totally out of the loop on this, but I had no idea Sunz were doing music in 1994 let alone putting out records under a different name. It looks like this downolad is missing one track (Mental Combat II), but this is quite a find nonetheless, for me at least.

Any of yous guys known about this? If so, anybody got that missing track?

I don't know anywhere near as much as you guys, but I think Sunz of Man were together before they released their first music and probably were recording. All I know is little bits of info like them being put together by Rza I think (?) and Death Be the Penalty originally being a Sunz track but they decided it should be a Shabazz solo due to the strength of his first verse, or something?

I found this blog through a google search, but a lot of the links seem to use a russian filehost and are down, anyone used this blog?

http://wu-tangfam.blogspot.co.uk/search ... 20of%20man

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:25 pm

Yeah, I've used it. There are instructions for downloading on the right. Just follow those and you should be straight.

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:34 pm

Versive wrote:Yeah, I've used it. There are instructions for downloading on the right. Just follow those and you should be straight.

OK thanks, but I can't get the RU links working even with the instructions, the links don't load.

Isn't this what you were looking for, it's on that blog? SUNZ OF MAN - Da Last Future (VLS) (1994) : 01. Livin In Hell
02. Mental Combat #1
03. Mental Combat #2
04. Evil Lulla Bye

Siberianbutcher · Post by **Siberianbutcher** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:01 pm

now he's making beat apps for smartphones...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trS81z4N ... ata_player

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:01 pm

shadowmaster wrote:
Versive wrote:Yeah, I've used it. There are instructions for downloading on the right. Just follow those and you should be straight.
OK thanks, but I can't get the RU links working even with the instructions, the links don't load.

Isn't this what you were looking for, it's on that blog? SUNZ OF MAN - Da Last Future (VLS) (1994) : 01. Livin In Hell
02. Mental Combat #1
03. Mental Combat #2
04. Evil Lulla Bye

Word, that's it. Good eye. I'll repost this tomorrow to save people the trouble.

During which part of the process are you having a problem? It's a pain in the ass, but I haven't had any problems that I can remember.

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:42 am

When I look at the instructions, it suggests that I should get a few different options / locations to download from. I don't see any of that, just normal Russian text with no actual links. I'll try again later. I found one of the early Sunz singles on another blog, don't have the others or their first lp anymore.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:26 pm

It's a little tricky/shady since you can't tell what anything says, but there is a hyperlink in the text block that takes you to a page with like 5 ads. You click one and then keep your eye on the timer that appears up top. When that runs out you click the new link that appears up there. Then enter the captcha number and press enter.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:12 pm

http://www.divshare.com/download/17516933-89d

Sunz of Man record from 1994 when they recorded under the name Da Last Future. A guy on discogs is asking almost $1200 for this. http://www.discogs.com/Da-Last-Future-D ... se/1333260

bignormy · Post by **bignormy** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:06 pm

Versive wrote:It's a little tricky/shady since you can't tell what anything says, but there is a hyperlink in the text block that takes you to a page with like 5 ads. You click one and then keep your eye on the timer that appears up top. When that runs out you click the new link that appears up there. Then enter the captcha number and press enter.

Why doesn't someone reup it somewhere better?

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:51 am

...I just did, see the top of my last post.

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:51 pm

Versive wrote:It's a little tricky/shady since you can't tell what anything says, but there is a hyperlink in the text block that takes you to a page with like 5 ads. You click one and then keep your eye on the timer that appears up top. When that runs out you click the new link that appears up there. Then enter the captcha number and press enter.

Thanks man.

claaa7 · Post by **claaa7** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:56 am

yeah Sunz Of Man was Da Last Future before they became Sunz Of Man. i believe Shabazz the Disciple and 7th Ambassador was in the group at this time too.. some of the tracks they recorded back then can be found on the compilation album "The First Testament".

claaa7 · Post by **claaa7** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:58 am

that track "Livin' in Hell" is also the song Hell Razah speaks about Raekwon and Ghostface biting his style from on their "Heaven & Hell" and a battle track they did which they ran with for "Meth vs. Chef".

this is on the song "Audiobiography" by Hell Razah. btw, www.wu-international.com just posted the first Razah interview since he got sick and it also includes a new mixtape

Fritz · Post by **Fritz** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:32 am

Ol' Dirty Bastard ft. Method Man-Drunken Master (unreleased) 1996

http://www.sharebeast.com/msvrqjpr6uoo

enjoy

mega montana · Post by **mega montana** » Fri May 04, 2012 11:44 pm

i'm a big wu/wu fam stan, so this thread is really dope

a lot of dope shit in here, a lot of gems, great job guys

HeRBaN LyRiX · Post by **HeRBaN LyRiX** » Mon May 07, 2012 12:59 am

Here`s a lil` something that I found while doin` some web surfin`; a Shyheim & GP Wu compilation of sorts. It was pretty incomplete when I found it, missin` tracks & the sound quality of most of them were pretty shitty.....so I decided that I would put my touch on it, I tracked down a few extra joints & added them on as well...

Shyheim & GP Wu - Bootleg
Label: N/A
Compiled: 2012

1. 5 Elements {Shyheim ft. GP Wu}
2. Let`s Go To Lap {GP Wu ft. Shyheim}
3. All Out On My Own {Shyheim ft. Squig}
4. Get Down {Shyheim ft. Snagglepuss, Rubbabandz & Letha Face}
5. Can U Wu Wu Wu? {GP Wu}
6. GP Connection {GP Wu}
7. Soul In The Hole {Timbo King, Shyheim & Killa Sin ft. Tekitha}
8. Bring The Drama {Shyheim ft. Down Low Recka, K-Tez & Rubbabandz}
9. Pass It Off [Rmx] {Shyheim ft. Big Daddy Kane & GP Wu}
10. On & On [Rmx] {Shyheim}
11. Shit Is Real [Rmx] {Shyheim}
12. Hit Me With That Shit [Rmx] {GP Wu}
12. Licka Shot {Shyheim ft. Rubbabandz}
13. Shyheim & Rubbabandz `94 Rap City Freestyle
14. One`s 4 Da Money [Rmx] {Shyheim}
14. Shaolin Style [Rmx] {Shyheim ft. GP Wu, Squig & Ruthless Bastards}
15. In Trouble {Shyheim}
16. Outro

BaCK~uP Rapidshare Link...

N`JoY...