Rare Album Samplers/Advances

itzmurda · Post by **itzmurda** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:03 pm

Samplers are the source for many exclusives, original versions, and tracks that were cut from the final version of the album. Here are a few that are worth discussing (if you have any, please feel free to contribute):

Available for download

Big Punisher - Pre-Trial Motion (1998)
("Capital Punishment" sampler)

Side A
Twinz w/ Fat Joe
Toe To Toe w/ Cuban Link (Non-album track)
Off The Books w/ Cuban Link & Beatnuts (Non-album track)
Wishful Thinking w/ B Real, Fat Joe & Kool G Rap (Non-album track)
Side B
Dreamshatterer (Original Version)
Firewater w/ Raekwon & Fat Joe (Non-album track)
You Aint A Killer
Still Not A Player w/ Joe (Original Version)

Download (courtesy of step one): http://djstepone.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12 ... -tape.html

Raekwon The Chef - Latest & Greatest Hits (1995)
("Only Built 4 Cuban Linx..." sampler)

Tracklist above.

Download (courtesy of dirt_dog): http://www.thetroyblog.com/2010/02/26/r ... 0%9D-1995/

Loud Records - The Set-Up (1997)

RISING
a1 Big Punisher-You Ainגt A Killer
a2 Davina-So Good
a3 Dead Prez.-Food, Clothes and Shelter
a4 The Dwellas-The Main Aim (Unreleased)
a5 A

Edit: It seems as though the forum change or something has truncated this post. There were tons more tapes, I'll have to fix soon.

bbatson1 · Post by **bbatson1** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:11 pm

Thanks! does anyone have the ghostface - iron man sampler?

I'm going to see what I have.

edit.. Thought these were downloadable.

itzmurda · Post by **itzmurda** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:16 pm

bbatson1 wrote:Thanks! does anyone have the ghostface - iron man sampler?

I'm going to see what I have.

edit.. Thought these were downloadable.

Sorry man, only for a few. But I did include links to the "Capital Punishment" sampler and the "It Was Written" sampler. The "Power of the Dollar" sampler is down apparently.

However, I am soon to acquire the Nas/Nature sampler, so I should be ripping/uploading that when I get it. I also included ebay links in case anyone else is interested in picking up a few to rip as well (not expecting that, but who knows).

This thread may cause a few people to actually seek out and find some of these rare tapes to share (and also post a few that they already are in possession of). We'll see how it goes.

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:58 pm

Was the Big Pun track featured on the Loud sampler tape given with an issue of XXL (the first?) the same version of the Player track?

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:17 pm

good threading. Hoping for the Dead Prez "Red Tape" promo sampler to surface.
http://wernervonwallenrod.blogspot.com/ ... -tape.html
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that version of Happiness is so much better, imo. I know i have it on an hd somewhere, recently threw it on a CD, but don't know where it originated from. It might have been engineered by Dj Nastee i think.

TheBigSleep · Post by **TheBigSleep** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:13 am

There's one of these for Big L's Big Picture LP, one for D.I.T.C.'s Worldwide / Self Titled LP and this one I just found out about a little while back:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HEAVY-D-F-MCGRU ... 180wt_1396

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:45 am

TheBigSleep wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HEAVY-D-F-MCGRU ... 180wt_1396

WHATTT?! The Heavster with Herb McGruff as a sidekick trying to bring him up or is this a different McGruff? either way, never heard of this in my life and would love to find out more about this. Thanks TBS.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:46 am

Oh ok, i think i'm seeing more of what they were doing with that now after seeing the tracklist. Hmm.

thebohdan252 · Post by **thebohdan252** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:35 am

big pun tape is a dead megaupload link

Stieflkater · Post by **Stieflkater** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:15 am

You is right Verge - Heavy D put Gruff on...What up with the h2o related material DJ Nastee wanted to hook up?
If not make it a No Sleep Release since the 12th Block is on Cellar Sounds 3 anyways.

fatboybrandon · Post by **fatboybrandon** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:02 am

Thanks for creating the thread itzmurda, I've been looking for more sampler tapes and those ones you posted I don't have. LOUD was really generous with their amount of promo material back in the 90's.

Here's a slideshow of my collection at Flickr. The rarest one I think is between the Prince Paul and the Trackmasters sampler cassette

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TheBigSleep · Post by **TheBigSleep** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:08 am

Verge wrote:The Heavster with Herb McGruff as a sidekick trying to bring him up or is this a different McGruff? either way, never heard of this in my life and would love to find out more about this. Thanks TBS.

Nah, that's Gruff. For sure man. The last four tracks (Gruff Express, Before We Start, This is How We Do and Stop It) are from McGruff's first (and only) LP, Destined to Be, on Uptown / Universal, released the summer of '98, after Heavy D got him signed the year before. There's a couple joints on there but he was kinda talked into doin' what the label wanted.

The remaining songs on the sampler are from Waterbed Hev. You Can Get It, I'll Do Anything, Can You Handle It (featuring McGruff and The Dogg Pound), Wanna Be a Playa and Get Fresh Hev.

But yeah, I didn't know there was a '97 cassette sampler with McGruff on it 'til fairly recently.

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:59 pm

Verge wrote:good threading. Hoping for the Dead Prez "Red Tape" promo sampler to surface.
http://wernervonwallenrod.blogspot.com/ ... -tape.html
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that version of Happiness is so much better, imo. I know i have it on an hd somewhere, recently threw it on a CD, but don't know where it originated from. It might have been engineered by Dj Nastee i think.

I'm sure there was a Dead Prez track on that Loud Sampler tape I mentioned, but I don't know what track or version.

step one · Post by **step one** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:06 pm

thebohdan252 wrote:big pun tape is a dead megaupload link

yeah, I had it on megaupload. Im in the process of reupping a few old links at the moment so it should be in a day or 2.

If I remember righht the version of 'Player' is slightly different to the released version (like, it has some extra strings or something)

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:11 pm

I have this Dice Raw cassette sampler. I have no idea what's on it since it's still sealed. No tracklisting on the back.

bignormy · Post by **bignormy** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:58 pm

Anyone have the og version of if I ruled the world?

thebohdan252 · Post by **thebohdan252** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:56 pm

step one wrote:
thebohdan252 wrote:big pun tape is a dead megaupload link
yeah, I had it on megaupload. Im in the process of reupping a few old links at the moment so it should be in a day or 2.

If I remember righht the version of 'Player' is slightly different to the released version (like, it has some extra strings or something)

dirt_dog · Post by **dirt_dog** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:47 pm

I can re-up this tomorrow if anyone wants it.

Loud Records גThe Set-Upג Promo Tape (1997)

RISING
a1 Big Punisher-You Ainגt A Killer
a2 Davina-So Good
a3 Dead Prez.-Food, Clothes and Shelter
a4 The Dwellas-The Main Aim
a5 A

battlecatmeowstab212 · Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:43 pm

Cool thread!

My girlfriend surprised me with this promo tape she found last October:

https://twitter.com/#!/Chazraps/status/ ... 9444260864

(couldn't get it to embed)

This thread reminded me that when I'm back in MN next month, I need to rip it from the cassette.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Tue May 01, 2012 2:20 am

Stieflkater wrote:You is right Verge - Heavy D put Gruff on...What up with the h2o related material DJ Nastee wanted to hook up?
If not make it a No Sleep Release since the 12th Block is on Cellar Sounds 3 anyways.

Nastee hasn't gotten back to me in a minute but we'll get it all sorted.

shadowmaster wrote:
Verge wrote:good threading. Hoping for the Dead Prez "Red Tape" promo sampler to surface.
http://wernervonwallenrod.blogspot.com/ ... -tape.html
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that version of Happiness is so much better, imo. I know i have it on an hd somewhere, recently threw it on a CD, but don't know where it originated from. It might have been engineered by Dj Nastee i think.

I'm sure there was a Dead Prez track on that Loud Sampler tape I mentioned, but I don't know what track or version.

Yes. I have this "Archives" (bootleg) Loud Unreleased and it has Dead Prez - Food, Clothes, and Shelter (og version) on it. The tits of the record for me is Xplicit's "Fly Shit". ANd Cella Dwellas Return Of Jane is pretty great too.
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Loud-Unr ... se/2206486
there's also this boot vinyl that probably is the exact sampler tape you're talking about, i dunno though:
http://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Set- ... se/2404690

shadowmaster · Post by **shadowmaster** » Tue May 01, 2012 3:02 am

I actually didn't know about either of those comps you linked to Verge, the one I meant was called Loud Summer or something, can't remember now, it had a red cardboard cover and I think Mobb Deep's Hoodlum was one of the first tracks on it. Speaking of Dead Prez though, I always wanted an instrumental for These Are the Times, that was a great beat.

informer · Post by **informer** » Tue May 01, 2012 9:33 am

i'm pretty sure there was one like these from CNN The war report, i had it at one time, but i can't seem to find it, i'll have a better look through my hds and i'll put it here if can track it

fatboybrandon · Post by **fatboybrandon** » Tue May 01, 2012 11:19 am

Nice tape battlecat, I'm sure people livin in the South probably had more access to getting that sampler than others.

I look forward to hearing that McGruff and Dead Prez material from sampler tapes if it turns up here.

I found this one while digging through my bedroom this morning, forgot I had it. This is one tape by Rawkus, one side is the sampler for Mos Def and the other Pharoahe.

bbatson1 · Post by **bbatson1** » Tue May 01, 2012 12:58 pm

itzmurda · Post by **itzmurda** » Tue May 01, 2012 3:47 pm

Very nice! You got a tracklist for that?

bbatson1 · Post by **bbatson1** » Tue May 01, 2012 4:56 pm

itzmurda wrote: Very nice! You got a tracklist for that?

01: Meaning Of Wu-Tang / 36 Chambers
[Answered by The RZA]
2: Meaning Of wu-Tang [Wu-Revelution Snippet]
[Answered by Raekwon]
3: The Beginning
[Answered by The RZA]
4: Triumph Snippet
5: The Album cover / Little Ghetto Boy Snippet
[Answered by The RZA]
6: Older Gods Snippet
7: Subject Matter / The MGM Snippet
[Answered by Raekwon]
8: Shows / Ol' Dirty Bastard / The Name
[Answered by Ol' Dirty Bastard]
9: Hell Wind Staff Snippet
10: 5% Idealogy
[Answered by Raekwon]
11: Wu-Wear
[Answered by The RZA]

step one · Post by **step one** » Tue May 01, 2012 5:58 pm

I've just re-upped the Big Pun tape

http://djstepone.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12 ... -tape.html

bbatson1 · Post by **bbatson1** » Wed May 02, 2012 11:09 pm

thanks step.

itzmurda · Post by **itzmurda** » Thu May 03, 2012 10:21 pm

just added the raekwon "only built 4 cuban linx" sampler in the OP.

fatboybrandon · Post by **fatboybrandon** » Thu May 03, 2012 10:40 pm

That Cuban Linx sampler tape is nice, it's cool to hear skits between Ghost and Rae that you don't hear on the album plus that freestyle over Mad Izm. I sold my copy to someone on the Wu Tang Corp forum about a year ago.

Does someone want to do a CD sampler thread as well, or should we post CD samplers here? I'd like to see what people have.