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Pradadon started a thread in the My Two Cents forum about albums that were huge disappointments, and The Firm album was one of them. We thought it deserved it's own thread, so here it is. He put together a compilation of the tracks he thought would've made the album, and it sounds dope.

"For some reason Firm Biz came on the radio (there is an old school channel here in NYC that plays such random shit) the day I made that thread and it just reminded me how disappointing that album was to me. Then I remembered that I had Desperado with Nas with no drops, and that Step had the Firm Biz remix dirty."

pradadon wrote:I'm sure we have all discussed this, but as a huge Nas and Az fan (and Mega, even Nature) I was never more let down in the history of hip hop more than this. That Boot Camp- For The People was right there with this.
Of course this Firm album had a couple of joints, but fuck, it could have been an all time classic and they fucked it up real good. First off, needed Mega on there. But even with Nature, there were joints like ('Time' & 'Everyday Thing') that could have made the album much iller. Also not having the Nas verse on Desperados was a shame. The Firm Biz Remix should have been on there and I think Nas and Az should have had a couple of solo joints. They just dropped the ball so badly on what could have been a classic.

Here's Pradadon's re-imagining of the album. He removed the skits and wack tracks, and added some songs that were left off the album.

Philaflava presents.. The Firm - How It Should Have Been

http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/LQU1VF77/file.html

Pradadon edition

Tracklist:

01. Firm Fiasco
02. Phone Tap ft. Dr. Dre
03. 4 in the Morning
04. Executive Decision
05. Time
06. Escobar '97
07. La Familia ft. Cormega
08. Triple Threat ft. Noreaga
09. Desperados
10. Firm Biz (World Famous Remix)
11. I'm Leaving ft. Noreaga
12. Throw Your Guns ft. Half-A-Mill


Here's my tracklist:

The Firm - The Updated Album (Filthy version)
https://www.sendspace.com/file/4zi4i9

01 - La Familia (Version #1) [Cormega, Nas, Foxy Brown, AZ].mp3
02 - Desperados (Original Version) [Nas, Foxy Brown, Nature].mp3
03 - Crime Connection [Cormega, Mobb Deep].mp3
04 - Magic & Bird [Nature, Noreaga].mp3
05 - Friend Of Ours (DJ Filthy Rich Refix) [Nas, Nature, Kool G Rap].mp3
06 - Fist Full Of Dollaz [Nature, Dr Dre].mp3
07 - Triple Threat (DJ Filthy Rich blend) [Nature, Nas, Noreaga].mp3
08 - Shootouts (DJ Filthy Rich blend) [Nas].mp3
09 - Affirmative Action [AZ, Cormega, Nas, Foxy Brown].mp3
10 - Firm Fiasco [Nas, AZ, Foxy Brown].mp3
11 - Phone Tap [Nas, AZ].mp3
12 - Executive Decision [Nas, Nature, AZ].mp3
13 - I'm Leaving [Nature, Noreaga].mp3
14 - Five Minutes To Flush (4 N Tha Morning version) [Nature].mp3
15 - Angel Dust (DJ Filthy Rich blend) [Cormega, Havoc].mp3
16 - Doe Or Die (DJ Filthy Rich blend) [AZ].mp3
17 - Blood Money (Filthy Rich refix) [AZ, Foxy Brown, Half A Mill].mp3
18 - QB to Uptown Connection (DJ Filthy Rich blend) [Cormega, Nas, Big L, McGruff].mp3
19 - The Promise (DJ Filthy Rich Refix) [Foxy Brown, Nas].mp3
20 - Escobar '97 [Nas].mp3
21 - Montana Diary [Cormega].mp3
22 - Sosa (Scarface intro version) [AZ].mp3
23 - Letter To The Firm [Foxy Brown].mp3
24 - Throw Your Guns [AZ, Half-A-Mill].mp3
25 - In Too Deep [Nas, Nature].mp3
26 - The Setup (DJ Filthy Rich blend) [Nas].mp3
27 - Fast Life (Norfside RMX) [Nas, Kool G Rap].mp3
28 - Love Is Love [AZ, Half A Mil, Nature].mp3
29 - Mo Money, Mo Murder [AZ, Nas].mp3
30 - Time [AZ, Nas, Nature].mp3
31 - Everyday Thing [Nas, Nature, Dr Dre].mp3
32 - Affirmative Action RMX [Foxy Brown, AZ, Cormega, Nas].mp3
33 - Firm Biz (World Famous RMX) [Half A Mil, Nature, AZ, Foxy Brown, Nas].mp3
34 - Desperados (LP Version) [Canibus, AZ, Nature].mp3
35 - La Familia (Version #2) [Foxy Brown, Nature, Nas, AZ].mp3

Shout to Step One who came through with the hard to find dirty version of the Firm Biz RMX, and likely the best quality original version of La Familia which features Cormega's verse.
http://djstepone.blogspot.ca/2016/07/th ... -1996.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fritz who provided the best rip of Five Minutes To Flush (4 N Tha Morning version)

Stieflkater who provided the best rip of Fist Full Of Dollaz

Lescratch who provided the best rip of 'La Familia Version #2 (Explicit)', and 'Sosa' (Scarface Intro version).

Bigsleep who sourced out the tracks in HQ

It is Mega Montana and AZ Sosa...but you know. thx

Great comprehensive work bro! Thanks for everything!

yo dj filthy rich
2 tracks out there that i think would go well wit this and they are both on Clue Tapes...

the first one is a freestyle intro featuring Nas & nature rhyming over a dope beat that i cant remember right now but the tape is from '97
the second one is a track that the firm is rhyming over mary j's be happy remix instru. welcoming mary j to the firm.
they are both on Clue tapes around '96 & '97...i think i have both but i gottta dig them up...but they are out there and available!!

and personally i thought the album was dope orig. and i loved the concept cause u will never have that collection of stars in a group again, being that we never saw the commission take place. the super group that woulda consisted of Biggie, Cease, Jigga & Charli!

but i cant wait ti hear ur version cause on it look incredible so far!!

and i was dissapointed wit the Boot camp Clik album as well, they was riding high in '93-96 and for them to drop that BS was dissapointing.
the best track i loved was Night Riders wit Aaliyah...but not the orig. version, the 9th wonder one LOL!!!

so maybe ur next 2 challenges could b creating a Commission album or redo the Boot camp Clik album...or a better yet creating a proper Children Of The Corn album!

Just remembered I have that Firm freestyle over Tha Alkaholiks 'Hip Hop Drunkies' beat and I'm pretty sure uts untagged. Maybe there's already enough tracks though?

BrandanEvans wrote:yo dj filthy rich
2 tracks out there that i think would go well wit this and they are both on Clue Tapes...

the first one is a freestyle intro featuring Nas & nature rhyming over a dope beat that i cant remember right now but the tape is from '97
the second one is a track that the firm is rhyming over mary j's be happy remix instru. welcoming mary j to the firm.
they are both on Clue tapes around '96 & '97...i think i have both but i gottta dig them up...but they are out there and available!!

I'm probably going to leave freestyles out of my version, but feel free to upload them in this thread for everybody to take a listen. I wouldn't mind hearing them myself.

step one wrote:Just remembered I have that Firm freestyle over Tha Alkaholiks 'Hip Hop Drunkies' beat and I'm pretty sure it's untagged. Maybe there's already enough tracks though?

I have it somewhere on a bootleg. I'm going to leave it off my version cuz it was a freestyle, but drop it in the thread if you have it handy.

http://www107.zippyshare.com/v/5clFeExW/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

08-dr_dre-4_in_tha_mornin_ft._nature_r.c.-ksi

Comes from the original source : Dr_dre-Exclusive_(Unreleased)-2001-ksi

Here are some firm joints:
The Firm-Affirmative Action Vinyl Reanimators Remix
The Firm-Affirmative Action (The Firm Remix) , CDQ, this remix is different, official and doesn't use the juice crew beat, but another very dope beat (be sure to check)
Nas And Statik Selektah-Affirmative Action 2004" featuring AZ& Cormega (new nas verse) from Nas And Statik Selektah-The Prophecy

http://www2.zippyshare.com/v/UEBsjpWk/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

gotta love this forum
thanx pradadon et al

Loving the photoshopped cormega on the cover lol. Fits perfect

@ that photoshop. This is great.

yo dj filthy rich,

2 more tracks came to mind
the AZ Doe Or Die vinyl Reanimators Rmx would go perfect on this, the beat is slow and mafioso esque!!

another track is a Nas and 1 or 2 other members of the Firm, its a unreleased track but its Nas and them rhyming about having a picnic in Queens, the beat is real lively i think it came out in '96-98...but the topic is mostly BBqing in queens with the people out and having a great time. i cant remember the name...

i love this stuff man, its cool to put the pieces together and create something when heads come together.
reminds me & others putting that stretch & bob thread together and completing it!!

Dope! Thanks Pradadon and Rich.

Although I gotta say, Desperados doesn't hold up as well without Canibus on there.

Thanks to everyone who has contributed.

The version I have put together based on prada's original post looks something like this so far:

The Firm - The Firm (1997)



Tracklist:

01. Firm Fiasco
02. Phone Tap ft. Dr. Dre
03. 4 in the Morning
04. Executive Decision
05. Time
06. Escobar '97
07. La Familia ft. Cormega
08. Triple Threat ft. Noreaga
09. Desperados
10. Firm Biz (World Famous Remix)
11. I'm Leaving ft. Noreaga
12. Throw Your Guns ft. Half-A-Mill

[Tracks 1, 2, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, and 12 are 320 CBR. Tracks 3, 6, and 9 are 192 CBR. Track 5 is 128 CBR.]

Download.

Thanks bro! I know that vinyl reanimators rmx will b a great choice!
now on that Nas track its not Queens Day, remember the track im talking about was not released...the name of the record is called Cookouts wit nature on it!!

that track would b great to add trust me!!

another hidden gem to add to this is a track that is from '92 - '93 underground unreleased with Nas & Cormega called 40th Side Of Things!!
again trust me this track will fit right in, the beat matches the flow of this album. u might gotta do some editing in the beginning cause of talking, but it will work!

and u said u needed more Mega, joints come to mind...Killaz Theme wit Mobb Deep, Angel Dust ft. Havoc, Mega Gonna Hold His own ft. Carl Thomas, Testament...

There's one more track that I'd like to track down....it was an early Firm unreleased track called Fist Full Of Dollaz which features Nature and Dre. I found one mp3 of it online, but hoping somebody has this bootleg vinyl and can rip the .WAV file for us (I also wouldn't mind a rip of 4 N Tha Morning from this bootleg either so we can compare it to the version you found on the Dr Dre compilation. Note that Eminem is incorrectly listed as being featured on the track...can't trust a bootlegger lol).
I have the mp3 for the Fist Full Of Dollaz youtube video below....it's also known as Dr Dre "Talkin Big Shit". Just hoping we can get a better rip from this bootleg:


Here you go : http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/xjEHgPsZ/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This is the original leak in 192, I decided to upload the whole album (including Fist Full of Dollaz)
Dr_Dre-Exclusive_(Unreleased)-2001-ksi
01 0:19 Intro
02 3:29 Fist Full Of Dollas ft. Dr Dre, Nature
03 3:52 Blueberries ft. Snoop Dogg, Sam Sneed
04 3:35 Lady Herion ft. Sam Sneed, J. Flexx
05 4:45 Sooner You Give ft. E.S.P.
06 4:53 Nothin To It ft. Serenade
07 0:06 Nas Interlude
08 3:16 4 In Tha Mornin ft. Nature, R.C.
09 4:23 Street Dreams ft. Nas, Nature, Drauma
10 3:29 Guilty As Sin ft. Sharief, Drauma, Kurupt
11 5:37 Let The Maddness Begin ft. R.C., Drauma, Jhery
12 0:06 Hands On Intro
13 3:25 Experience ft. Hands On
14 4:59 Get It On ft. Hands On
15 4:32 In Da Zone ft. Sam Sneed, J. Flexx, Drauma
16 0:54 Outro

The 40th Side Of Things, can be found here, https://k2s.cc/file/6464f20d8ecd9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.discogs.com/Jae-Supreme-Lif ... se/7668065" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Here's cookouts, from a j-love comp, the J-Love shouting is fortunately not that present
http://www21.zippyshare.com/v/QUf6toIL/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here another joint (unofficial remix though)
Nas-Affirmative Action feat. Cormega, AZ Foxy Brown (Madlib Remix)
http://www38.zippyshare.com/v/AilM2ikS/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Another: Cormega and Nas - Funk Flex Wild Style Freestyle (1996)
http://www32.zippyshare.com/v/7QwUN6Yh/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

DJ FilthyRich try this:
MnM is doing the hook on 4 in the morn...

Street Dreams on the ksi has Nas, Nature and Drauma. It is the other track that was leaked with "Time", called "Every Day Thang". The ksi one still has the reference verse for Dre though. lol No mafioso track though...

side info: https://www.discogs.com/de/artist/4694916-Syl-Drama" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, https://www.discogs.com/de/Sons-Of-Ligh ... se/8418165" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; should/ could be the same Drama dude from QB/ Queens.

I think this was also on a Nas mixtape? But I think its a an older unreleased song

Here's that "Mary J & Da Firm" Clue Freestyle with a then grossly overweight Steve Stoute sounding like Big Pun on the intro.

http://genius.com/Nas-96-clue-freestyle-lyrics" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yo, can anyone ID the sneakers Nas has on at the end of the Firm Promo vid posted earlier? Are they just AF1s?

Maybe more of a Noreaga song but it would still fit well



And this was the only mafioso song from Fox' second album - also with Noreaga incidentally, but only on the hook

There's also a Pete Rock remix of Ultimate High (Nature & Nas) which I had never heard before http://www9.zippyshare.com/v/AzfGHIsJ/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

@Gangsta 4 life, the joints Nas was rockin are AF1s...idk the colorway tho...AF1 mids

yo dj filthy rich, another nice joint i think will fit is the joint AZ & Nas did on AZ's 2nd LP, Nas mentions firm biz a couple times in the end

i think that could fir as well.

The Firm - Affirmative Action (Da Beatminerz Remix) (VBR)
http://www61.zippyshare.com/v/aUH4F3SO/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nas, Nature, Dr. Dre - Everyday Thing (Produced by Dr. Dre) (320kbps)
http://www26.zippyshare.com/v/BszelGLw/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Steve Stoute, Nas, Femme Fatale, Noreaga, Nature, Mary J. Blige - Freestyle (DJ Clue)
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/R9sRGwKN/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nas, Nature, AZ - Welcoming Mary J. Blige Freestyle (DJ Clue)
http://www39.zippyshare.com/v/QtMtD97M/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nas ft. Nature - Summer Cookout (Cutmaster C)
http://www107.zippyshare.com/v/CroRgrSN/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pretty Boy ft. Nas, Foxy Brown - The Firm All-Stars (DJ Clue)
http://www119.zippyshare.com/v/gxlHYXMe/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fritz wrote: Here you go : http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/xjEHgPsZ/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This is the original leak in 192, I decided to upload the whole album (including Fist Full of Dollaz)

Thanks Fritz...I think this is the best quality rip of 4 N Tha Morning that I've come across so far. Good look on those loosies too.

Stieflkater wrote:DJ FilthyRich try this:

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http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/fxBQoByU/file.html

Thanks for coming thru huge with the vinyl rip of the 5 Minutes To Flush bootleg, Stiefel...I think this is the best quality rip of 'Fist Full Of Dollaz' so far....better than the rip on the Dr Dre ksi bootleg above.

Comedy Quaddafi wrote:
I think this was also on a Nas mixtape? But I think its a an older unreleased song

Yeah I was trying to find a version of this track with no DJ/tags, but I don't think one exists.
I chose not to include the Bloody Money 2 track because it has a middle eastern beat instead of a mafioso vibe.

@Brandan i left off 'How Ya Livin' because the vibe sounded too happy. Really wish I had that acapella though or a remix to it.

@Green Lantern...thanks for the loosies...I think that 320 version of Every Day Thing is the best quality version we have so far

@DJ Filthy Rich....are u gonna add that 40th side of things track wit Nas & Cormega or the Cookouts wit Nas & Nature?

BrandanEvans wrote:@DJ Filthy Rich....are u gonna add that 40th side of things track wit Nas & Cormega or the Cookouts wit Nas & Nature?

naw homie...they both sound a little too happy. but the download links are in this thread for anybody who wants to add them to their own version of the album

I found this Nature compilation....even though it's available on official avenues like iTunes, the quality of these tracks are pretty poor. I'd be pretty pissed if I paid for this CD thinking it would have CDQ tracks, and heard this mixtape quality stuff.
The bright spot though is that it has a better quality version of Magic & Bird (and it's at regular speed).



http://www111.zippyshare.com/v/4DfSWCWs/file.html

1. Kingz of Queens (feat. Tragedy & Blaq Poet)
2. Take It On
3. Jungle Music
4. Triple Threat (feat. Nas & Noreaga)
5. The Most Heart (feat. Littles)
6. Kings of NY (feat. ACD)
7. Look Who's Talking
8. Ultimate High (Pete Rock Remix) [feat. Nas]
9. You Lose
10. Magic & Bird (feat. Noreaga)
11. Shoot Ya Clips Out
12. Swerving (feat. ACD)
13. Time (feat. Nas & AZ)
14. Summer Cookout (feat. Nas)
15. How Cool (feat. E Money Bags)

magic n bird - you might have found the best version though - it's pitched a little bit too slow though, like the J-Love I did include. (drops) The other one is of this: http://dabootlegshop.blogspot.co.at/200 ... ature.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (better than white label, same speed and not full - verses are all there) Last one is the one you got of youtube - whitelabel rip. Yeah, the mixes on the KSI are a bit too sharp in my opinion. The Firm Biz RMX I provided might be better too. You could regulate the pitch with goldwave though.