Re-imagining of Nas "I Am"
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:29 pm
Created this thread because I don't think Lescratch can post new threads yet.
Paging Lescratch and Cairokid
Paging Lescratch and Cairokid
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https://philaflavaforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138413
Yeah no prob homie....send over the .WAV files once you record them, and I'll clean them up.lescratch wrote:Thanks Rich! I've almost got the bootleg compiled completely. Just waiting on a couple records to arrive in the mail this week. Can I send you the .Wav's as soon as I rip them?
Thanks Cairokid. I took this track and beefed up the low end since Vamp's rip sounds very thin. Normally I don't like altering mp3's and re-encoding back to a lossy format, but in this case I think it sounds much better. If Vamp wants to send us the WAV file of the track (or the snippet), I can redo the EQ in better sound quality.cairokid wrote:Here's the best version I have of The Curse, in 192 kbps. This comes from "Vamp" who was a well known member of the various Nas message boards back in the day. Before he posted this, to my knowledge, there was only a really really bad quality version of it. He always claimed to have heard/or have the full version of the song, but who knows, as it never has leaked. This is likely the version that is floating around the 'net, at least it used to be. I recall people going crazy when he posted this. to have it in great quality finally (just the snippet!) made people lose their minds!lescratch wrote:@cairokid the tape confirms a couple IAM tracks as well as shows 'triple threat' was meant for nature
https://www.sendspace.com/file/126mke" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks Rich. I was going to mention that about the Killah Priest song. Maybe one day it will come out, the real version!djfilthyrich wrote:Yeah no prob homie....send over the .WAV files once you record them, and I'll clean them up.lescratch wrote:Thanks Rich! I've almost got the bootleg compiled completely. Just waiting on a couple records to arrive in the mail this week. Can I send you the .Wav's as soon as I rip them?
Thanks Cairokid. I took this track and beefed up the low end since Vamp's rip sounds very thin. Normally I don't like altering mp3's and re-encoding back to a lossy format, but in this case I think it sounds much better. If Vamp wants to send us the WAV file of the track (or the snippet), I can redo the EQ in better sound quality.cairokid wrote:Here's the best version I have of The Curse, in 192 kbps. This comes from "Vamp" who was a well known member of the various Nas message boards back in the day. Before he posted this, to my knowledge, there was only a really really bad quality version of it. He always claimed to have heard/or have the full version of the song, but who knows, as it never has leaked. This is likely the version that is floating around the 'net, at least it used to be. I recall people going crazy when he posted this. to have it in great quality finally (just the snippet!) made people lose their minds!lescratch wrote:@cairokid the tape confirms a couple IAM tracks as well as shows 'triple threat' was meant for nature
https://www.sendspace.com/file/126mke" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Here's my EQ of the track in case anybody wants it.
http://www43.zippyshare.com/v/CUmrxWHT/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's also worth noting that Nas re-used this verse on the track 'Crime Cardinals aka The Saints' with Killah Priest.
Tracklist referenced above:I just wanted to throw a few cents in on the "I Am..." topic, but don't want to hijack the topic. There was/is another forum I used to frequent often that had someone undertake a similar effort. What they ultimately were trying to put together was as close as possible a representation of what the original "I Am..." album would have been (2 disc version). They produced what I think is the most researched and thought out explanations for what they chose to include on their version, which they admit isn't perfect. Long story short, they searched the Internet for old articles, interviews etc. Also of great use were liner notes for "I Am...", "Nastradamus", and "The Lost Tapes". This didn't dawn on me until reading the explanations on the liner notes, but quite a bit of information can be gathered from them when you look at where songs were recorded and who worked on them (engineers, etc).
All of the songs are out there that ended upon that particular compilation, it wasn't like he found some super secret "I Am..." era songs. Whoever ends up working on the Philaflava version, I can share some of this with you if you'd like for your reference. I would think many of the actual people (engineers, etc) who worked on "I Am..." may be available on social media nowadays and might be able to share even more insights into what went on with the various leaks and what was/wasn't recorded.
If anyone is interested, I worked with Claaa on a "Death of Escobar" project, after doing some research of my own. You can find that here: http://claaa7.blogspot.com/2014/05/nas- ... death.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Here's the track list....
Disc 1
1. Intro
2. Fetus (Belly Button Window)
3. Poppa Was A Playa
4. Project Windows
5. NY State of Mind II
6. Find Ya Wealth
7. Small World
8. Blaze A 50
9. Daydreamin' Stay Schemin'
10. Wanna Play Rough
11. U Gotta Love It
12. Hardest Thing To Do
13. Favor for a Favor
14. Money Is My Bitch
15. Kissing
16. Drunk By Myself
17. Undying Love
Disc 2
1. Afterlife (Interlude)
2. Amongst Kings
3. Pray
4. The Curse (Snippet)
5. Nas Is Like
6. Sometimes I Wonder
7. I Want to Talk to You
8. Dr. Knockboot
9. You Won't See Me Tonight
10. Big Things
11. Hate Me Now
12. My Own Worst Enemy
13. Life Is What You Make It
14. Ghetto Prisoners
15. We Will Survive
16. The Rise and Fall
Some notes....all of the retail album, including the Intro is part of this. The version of "Fetus" is the original version, not the one from The Lost Tapes. The "Project Windows" version is from Nastradamus. They felt this was the better version. Personally I prefer the "I Am..." leaked version, where the beat is slightly different (piano) and slightly different lyrics I believe. Pray is from the "I Am..." tape. Hate Me Now is the original version with the opera sample, not the album version.
I believe this was the advanced version that leaked:
nas-01-fetus_belly_button_window-apc-traxter.mp3
nas-02-small_world-apc-traxter.MP3
nas-03-money_is_my_bitch-apc-traxter.mp3
nas-04-project_window-apc-traxter.mp3
nas-05-poppa_was_a_player-apc-traxter.MP3
nas-06-dr_knockboots_dos_and_dont-apc-traxter.MP3
nas-07-day_dreamin_stay_schemin-apc-traxter.MP3
nas-08-sometimes_i_wonder-apc-traxter.MP3
nas-09-hardest_thing_to_do_is_stay_alive-apc-traxter.MP3
nas-10-drunk_by_myself-apc-traxter.MP3
nas-11-wanna_play-apc-traxter.MP3
nas-12-blaze_a_50-apc-traxter.MP3
nas-13-we_will_survive-apc-traxter.MP3
I've always thought that "Come Get Me" was one of the "new" songs recorded for Nastradamus. Right after the line about "album three" he mentions 3D, which if I recall was how Nastradamus single video was presented (in some shape or form?). Just personally for this reason, I always leave it out of any I Am re-dos I put together. I enjoy the song a lot, just minus the skit at the end of the album version!itzmurda wrote:That's the tracklist that I would go with. The only problem I see is leaving out "Come Get Me" when Nas mentions album three on the song.
Like Rich said, you can find several of the tracks you asked about at the DOE link: http://claaa7.blogspot.com/2014/05/nas- ... death.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; . Here's the track list for reference:djfilthyrich wrote:@madstadik....good looks on that I Am Advance!
Here's The OG Hate Me Now with the O Fortuna sample, & Pray ft Bravehearts (personally can't stand this track....Bravehearts probably would never would've gotten on wax if it weren't for their connections to Nas IMO).
http://www82.zippyshare.com/v/Yz9a54uf/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
FYI - If nobody has connections to some type of advance CD, Rise & Fall, Tales From The Hood, and Never Gonna Give It Up can be found on the link that Cairokid posted above for the Death Of Escobar project. I think these may be the best versions I've heard so far....
Nice post man. Here's a 320kbps rip of the Hate Me Now OG: https://www.sendspace.com/file/w81v2d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;djfilthyrich wrote: Here's The OG Hate Me Now with the O Fortuna sample
http://www82.zippyshare.com/v/Yz9a54uf/file.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hate Me Now OG (check the post above yours for 320k) is from the following release:lescratch wrote: @djfilthyrich Super thanks Rich! Where do these (Pray + Hate Me Now) come from?
lescratch wrote:Hey guys, I'm waiting on some 12s to arrive. DJ FilthyRich agreed to clean them up and then we'll share the classic bootleg in here pronto.
Oh and @Cairokid I believe you’re 100% correct about Come Get Me. The 'I wild on haters on album three’ line, to me is reflective.
Hustlers & Killers, Gangsta Tears were both for Nastradamus as well.
What is the general consensus here on the Rise and Fall? Recorded for Nastradamus?
It would be amazing if anybody here has .wav's from the following sources:
After Life interlude (Iam cd international version)
Amongst Kings (Iam cd international version)
Pray (Iam cassette bonus)
The curse (iam sampler tape)
Hate me now - original with O Fortuna sample ( from ?)
Extras:
Hustlers and Killers? (nastradamus bonus circuit city) (nastradamus cds) (nastradamus edited)
Never Gonna Give It Up - (featuring Product) (nastradamus edited)
Tales From The Hood (post nastradamus) (from ?)
My Worst Enemy (lost tapes Japan bonus)
You Don’t Know (around stillmatic) (lost tapes japan) -
Thanks in advance everybody!
It's been a while since I've read through that, I can't recall all that was said.lescratch wrote:@itzmurda WHOA! Thank you! I never expected it to be on there, all casual. :)
@cairokid I was reading the emailblast from D.O.E. You're convinced 'YOUR MOUTH GOT YOU IN IT' was meant for IAM?
Dude if u find that nas bootleg cd and rip it to wav i would really appreciate it. If u can find it. Dont kill yourself looking. Ive always wanted in in higher quality than the 160kbps APC scene rip from 1998lescratch wrote:@madstadik I did have it.. Moved around a lot though. Wouldn't know where to start looking. Were you able to find Hustlers & Killers on CD? Would be great if you could upload.