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thought i'd start a thread about hip hop trivia you may have heard over the years and is not actually "relevant" anymore

just a few things I remember hearing over the years

LL Cool J wrote MC Lyte's Verse on The Self Destruction project
- he was beefing with Kool Moe Dee who was on the record so he didnt want to be on it so he wrote lyte's verse "funky fresh dressed to impress ready to party money in your pocket dying to move your body"

Junior M A F I A put a hell of a beatdown on the bootcamp click in D&D studios over the mockery of Biggie in an OGC Video

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-LL Cool J and Kool Moe Dee came to blows one night backstage.

-"The bridge is over" was a Marley Marl beat that Krs One and Scott La Rock found in a studio.

-2pac was robbed and shot by some of Supreme's boys.

-"I got a story to tell" was vaguelly based on a real life incident Biggie had when he was slipping pipe to John Starks' woman.

-Paul C was murdered by his wife and his brother.

-Paul C was murdered by Superlover Cee and Cassanova Rud.

-Showbiz has almost been sent upstate for attempted murder twice.

-Big Pun hit Jay Z over the head with a bottle in a club.

-Eric. B beat down Large Professor and ran Kool G. Rap out of New York to Arizona after 'G. Rap revealed Large Pro produced most of the beats Eric B was supposed to have done on the Eric B. & Rakim albums and "wanted dead or alive".

-Biz Markie produced most of EPMD's first album.

-Ghostface, Superb and their team beat down and robbed 50 Cent and Tony Yayo after 50's dis tracks.

-Johnny Juice did all Terminator X's cuts on the Public Enemy albums.

-Lord Sear likes tubby white bitches that look like Blossom Russo from Boston.

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heard a few of them before interesting stuff - I heard rakim actually produced all the eric b and rakim stuff and eric b just did cuts

I heard Jay-Z and sauce money battled LL cool J outside a club in NY and Jay ripped him


biggie wrote all the rhymes for the junior mafia album

jay-z actually produced "aint no ni99a"and gave jaz the production credit

jaz o joined one of them space cults and was talking about living on the moon and such

Big Daddy Kane wrote Biz Markie's Rhymes

Benzino's former group the "almighty rso" chased marky mark and the funky bunch out of a tv performance for waering pittsburgh steelers uniforms and jerseys - the yellow and black being the tradmark colour of almighty RSO

Clef was bangin Lauryn - this is pretty much common knowledge I guess
Jay was bangin Foxy Brown and that chick from "in the house" at same time

Jadakiss wrote "Money" by Charli Baltimore

Jadakiss wrote most of puff's verses on Victory

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Killing Joke and Biggie were meant to have a track on Judgement Night soundtrack. They did rough cuts but never finished it and missed the deadline.

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Kane writing Biz's lyrics.. Not exactly a shock expose there, is it?

I believe it was Sauce Money who wrote Puffs rhymes on "victory" and much of his output.

Some more :

-Def Jam shafted T. La Rock and tried to get LL to come out as T. La Rock on "i need a beat" to capitalize on the success of "it's yours".

-T. La Rock got hit on the head, suffered huge brain trauma and now remembers little about his past.

-Cormega once had a price on his head and was shot twice.

-Spoonie Gee is now a crackhead and constantly in and out of prison.

-Easy Mo Bee produced most of the Big Daddy Kane songs that 'Kane was credited for producing.

-Producer Duke Bootee wrote most of "the message".Melle Mel only wrote one verse and that was a verse that first appeared on wax 3 years earlier on their debut 12" "superrappin'".

-Ced Gee was so strung out on crack towards the end of the Ultramagnetics career that he'd be on stage facing the wall rapping into Moe Luv's headphones.

-Ced Gee sold the all the Ultras demo cuts to Tuff City that were used on "NY - what is funky", "Basement tapes" etc to fund his crack habit.

Kool Keith met Godfather Don outside some industry event that both of them weren't allowed entry to. They snuck in through a back window and then hung out for the next month or so recording the 'Don produced tracks on "the 4 horsemen" and, of course, all the classic Cenobites tracks.

-Just Ice was a prime suspect in a murder case.

-Just Ice turned up in Queens on Poet's block after the two Rockwell Noel & The Poet tracks dissing Krs One, Red Alert and Ms. Melodie with a shotgun and waited for Poet to come out. Needless to say, Poet stayed in the crib that day.

-DJ Ready Red was kicked out of Geto Boys and shafted by J. Prince because of his lack of melanin.

-Alpo, Fritz, the original 50 Cent from Ft Greene and various other notorious hustlers/killers from the legendary Paid In Full Posse were in the crew shots on "paid in full" and "follow the leader".

-Rakim recorded a dis cut aimed at 'Kane for "let the rhythm hit 'em" and had a verse on the title track itself aimed at him. 'Kane heard about this and called Rakim to squash it and Rakim went on to scrap the track and remove the verse.

-Eric B. did security for Mike Tyson throughout much of the 90's.

-Diamond D and his old late 80's group Ultimate Force with Master Rob recorded a full album with Jazzy Jay which has never been heard.

-A young Fat Joe and his boys Tony Montana(R.I.P) and Charlie Rock L.D were one of the top two crack crews in the Bronx in the mid 80's and bringing in thousands of $$$$ per day.

-Q Tip got fucked up so bad by one of the members of Wrexx N Effect that he lost partial sight in one of his eyes. Or maybe it was one of his ears. I forget.

-Nas came incredibly close to being on the Large Pro produced Kool G Rap, Xtra P, Freddie Foxxx and Ant posse cut "money in the bank" as he was always hangin' around Eric B.'s studio but had gone to pick up some weed with a chick so they let the Ant kid on there instead.

-Nas and Cormega had settled their beef and were cool for the "da bridge 2001" video shoot until a chain that was rented had gone missing and Nas blamed one of Mega's crew thus re-igniting their the bad blood between them.

-Busta has a male lover somewhere in Europe.

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-Q Tip got fucked up so bad by one of the members of Wrexx N Effect that he lost partial sight in one of his eyes. Or maybe it was one of his ears. I forget.

Rumor has it, that he actually LOST an eye (and sports a prosthetic to this day) in this scrap which was at a RUN DMC show in NYC '92.

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My kinda thread

- The D.O.C. damn near ghostwrote everything in the Death Row Era

- Cube was the Ghostwriter for N.W.A. Eazy E was the funder

- in 1994 The whole Death Row camp got their asses whooped in ATlanta at the Jack The Rapper Convention by hella nigaz from Miami (Luke's crew and Clay D and the Get Funky Crew), Clay D talks about it on "Enough Is Enough"

- After the winning the World Title Grandmaster Roc Raida was challenged almost daily by local talent and has a bedroom full of turntables taken from people that he's beat (On some Predator shit)

- When Smoothe The Hustler got big M.O.P. werte kinda salty and felt that D.R. Period was purposely trying to duplicate their style (now you can't tell me on "Glocks On Cock" ( :arrow: ) Smoother does not sound like Billy Danze.

- Just-Ice is a former Marine and so is King Just

- Jazzy Jeff murdred Dj Grandwizard Shake in a battle while wearing a partial Body-Cast.

- Lord Finesse was the first person Grandmaster Roc Raida ever battled and lord Finesse won.

- Nas and ras Kass actually had a freestyle exhibition back in 1996 and ras kass murderd him and the incident was bolded in an issue of rap Pages.

- Aceyalone and P.E.A.C.E. from Freestyle fellowship despite their chemistry on the mic cannot stand each other and have fought many many times.

- Self Jupiter of the Freestyle fellowship was locked up in 1991 for Armed Robbery.

- DJ Cash Money threatened to sue the DMC Championships for using his likeness and image on tape without him receiving royalties.

- The Geto Boys have been through 4 changes as far as group members go.

- The LOX first apperared on Main Source's album "Fuck What You Think"

I'll be back with more.....

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Post by mud »

Galvatron78 wrote:My kinda thread

- The D.O.C. damn near ghostwrote everything in the Death Row Era
including kurupt? :sad:

galvatron and jbl these are appreciated,keep them coming

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mainly Snoop and Dre's shit...


- LL Cool J's Dj Cut Creator was not the one doing the cuts on the album it was actually DJ Battlecat

- On the vinyl Album version of "Eric B. Is President" the line "I must have gotten you too hot and burned off your wings" is strangely censored out.

- Will Smith Originally had to make two versions of "Girls Ain't Nuthin' but Trouble" because the original was deemed to "harsh" he had to change the following lines

"I took her on the townI wined her and dined her she asked me was I horny i said ...well kinda"

"i got scared when she started to yell so I hit her with a trashcan and ran like Hell!!!"

- in 1985 When Run-DMC did a West Coast Tour for their album Aceyalone and Mikah Nine challenged them to a battle...Run-DMC declined.

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Galvatron78 wrote:- Will Smith Originally had to make two versions of "Girls Ain't Nuthin' but Trouble" because the original was deemed to "harsh" he had to change the following lines

"I took her on the townI wined her and dined her she asked me was I horny i said ...well kinda"

"i got scared when she started to yell so I hit her with a trashcan and ran like Hell!!!"
I don't think the original version was ever released on CD, but I had it on cassette.

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- It's been rumored the Extra P and Paul C not Marley marl produced all the cuts on the Intelligent Hoodlum's Debut

- A man has actually killed his roomate and girlfriend behind the lyrics of a Brother Lynch Hung song and Lynch was almost sued for this.

- It's been said that the only member that was remotely gangsta in Souls Of Mischief (not that they were a gangsta group) was Phesto who has charges out the ass.

- Ghostface Killa didn't show his face in public after the debut of the album (at least video and interview wise) for two years. He always had some cloth over his face or that sticking cap.

- Extra Prolific uopn getting dropped from his label went in to label execs drunk as fuck and threatening each and every one of them and had to be escorted out the building.

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Galvatron78 wrote:- Extra Prolific uopn getting dropped from his label went in to label execs drunk as fuck and threatening each and every one of them and had to be escorted out the building.-
Wait, was this Snupe or Mike G?

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- Main Source (sans Large Pro) ran up in the Wild Pitch offices with machetes looking to behead MC Serch (then working as an A&R for the label) after a West Coast promotional tour went shitty. MC Serch got wind that they were coming and escaped by crawling over the partial walls for his office and jetting out the back door.

- Grimm was supposed to be on "Live at the Barbecue" but he was arrested on the way to the studio.

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Reggie wrote:- Grimm was supposed to be on "Live at the Barbecue" but he was arrested on the way to the studio.
I had always heard that he had simply gotten stuck in bad traffic and was unable to make it to the recording session.

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I Drive A Lexus wrote:
-Showbiz has almost been sent upstate for attempted murder twice.

-Eric. B beat down Large Professor and ran Kool G. Rap out of New York to Arizona after 'G. Rap revealed Large Pro produced most of the beats Eric B was supposed to have done on the Eric B. & Rakim albums and "wanted dead or alive".
i remember show getting shift after their manager bo was murdered.
that was a murder though so is that in addition to the two attempted murders?

i also remember about the time 4, 5, 6 came out g rap was speaking in an interview abut how he had to leave new york cos some people "were trying to force management" on him.
it's even funnier if it's eric b fuming at getting exposed.
although like someone else said ra said that he did most of the beats

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Eric B. didn't even do the cuts on the Eric B. & Rakim albums... Rakim did all the cuts on Paid in Full, after that they got a real ghost DJ (I don't know who)... beats (as we all know) were done by Marley Marl, Paul C, Large Professor, & Rakim himself. And Eric B. provided financial backing to the projects. Incidentally he never claimed to soley produce the Eric B. & Rakim tracks (although he did claim to produce some on "Wanted Dead or Alive), the albums listed all songs written by Eric B. & Rakim and all songs produced by Eric B. & Rakim.

Johnny Juice (at least according to him) didn't do all the cuts on the PE albums, he did however do all the cuts on all the songs that include Terminator X in the title (eg "Terminator X to the Edge of Panic") and most of the cuts on the first couple albums, mainly because he could executed the songs in fewer takes than Terminator X and they were strapped for studio money. Terminator X did do a lot of the simpler tracks, and Juice claims you can hear the difference in styles when X does the cuts versus his own style. Johnny Juice also co-produced many of the early PE tracks, but never got any credit (this was all Hank Shocklee's doing, not Chuck or Flav who Juice was both cool with).

Freddie Foxxx put a gun in Benzino's mouth on the Flavor Unit tour bus, because Benzino would not stop talking shit about what a thug he was

Ras Kass and Slick Rick have both done manslaughter bids and Rick has fought deportation many times...

DOC & RBX wrote the Chronic & Doggystyle... Kurupt did write his own lyrics

MC Hammer (especially during the Funky Headhunter days) ran with a crew of crazy bikers, ex-marines, and gangstas (most of whom he employed, thus leading to his bankrupcy). They once surrounded 3rd Bass's motel in the bay area. And he was at one point bestfriends with 2pac (when they were both stranded on death row, yes Hammer was on death row).

Hank Shocklee never produced or even helped produce a track in any musical sense. He was a P. Diddy style producer with an ear for what he wanted and various ideas, but no musical or programming abilities.

Hobo Junction and Hieroglyphics had crazy beef in the mid-nineties. Mainly because Hiero felt that Saafir was biting their flows. As a consequence Saafir and Casual battled on the wake up show, and Saafir murdered him. Hieroglyphics lyrics were filled with salty references toward biters and biting ass crews for years prior to and subsequently to the Casual/Saafir battle.

After the break-up of 3rd Bass, when Serch's career started to die out, and Wild Pitch was beginning to go under, he started rapping with Sabac Red and Ill Bill. Those three were the original members of Non-Phixion.

Kool G. Rap was the first rapper to date "Superhead" who he took off the streets, he frequently beat her, and wouldn't let her go out in public. After she left him she went on to be one of the most famous groupies in history.

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this is a great thread.

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SacmenFeg wrote:
Reggie wrote:- Grimm was supposed to be on "Live at the Barbecue" but he was arrested on the way to the studio.
I had always heard that he had simply gotten stuck in bad traffic and was unable to make it to the recording session.
actually according to Grim he said in an interview that he got caught up in a shootout and then got caught in traffic...just another day at the office I guess...

- After the ongoing trend of past-dead entertainers suing rappers for samples at the time (i.e. Public Enemy and Biz markie) the Turtles sued De la Soul for using 3 seconds of their song on a got-damn skit!!!! But yet Steady B and KRS ONE remained untouched...what kinda shit is that?!?!!?!

- Godfather Don's Hazardous LP has a life size poster in it

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This is a great thread.
Freddie Foxxx put a gun in Benzino's mouth on the Flavor Unit tour bus, because Benzino would not stop talking shit about what a thug he was
This is one of the best, and least surprising, things I have read in a minute. :grin:

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Q Tip got fucked up so bad by one of the members of Wrexx N Effect that he lost partial sight in one of his eyes. Or maybe it was one of his ears. I forget.
..and do you know why that happened?..it was all over Phife's line "Strictly hardcore tracks, not a new jack swing"

If I remember right Minister Farakhhan had a meeting with both groups for them to make peace.

crazy shit.... :shock:

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MC Hammer put a hit out on 3rd Bass...

check issue of Grand Slam Magazine vol 1. issue 1 spring 2003

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ah yes alotta this info is in ego trip's book of rap lists

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Galvatron78 wrote: - After the ongoing trend of past-dead entertainers suing rappers for samples at the time (i.e. Public Enemy and Biz markie) the Turtles sued De la Soul for using 3 seconds of their song on a got-damn skit!!!! But yet Steady B and KRS ONE remained untouched...what kinda shit is that?!?!!?!
After Public Enemy's sample trouble in the 80's and Chuck's blatant defense of the art of sampling on It Takes a Nation of Millions... Chuck D sued the estate of Notorious BIG for sampling his voice (even though Primo sampled it) on "Ten Crack Commandments," at the time I remember many people claiming that Chuck had completely lost it. He soon left Def Jam for the independent scene - dissing Lyor Cohen among others with the blantantly anti-semetically titled song "Swindler's Lust."

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I Drive A Lexus wrote:Kane writing Biz's lyrics.. Not exactly a shock expose there, is it?

I believe it was Sauce Money who wrote Puffs rhymes on "victory" and much of his output.
jadakiss said in a lox interview in an old "stress" magazine that he wrote victory - sauce money wrote "i'll be missing you" - which is kinda creepy I guess

Keith Murray once got locked in jail in london a false rape charge. On the night of the show he played for 20 mins had a dispute with the promoter and then jumped feet first into crowd

Wyclef also jumped feet first into crowd in Dublin in 1996 knocking a young girl clean out in the process - thus getting the Fugees blacklisted from playing In Ireland again

Ashanti gave Jay-Z the infamous Summerjam photo of Prodigy from Mobb Deep in a ballet costume as she went to that ballet school with him that was owned by prodigy's mother

Jay-Z turned down beat for cam'ron's "oh boy"

Biggie's "Kick In The Door" is generally regarded as a nas dis
"who you thought 'kick in the door' was for" Nas - Last Real Ni99a Alive

The lines "now they on some money shit successful out the gate, your lightweight fragilly my nine milly make they whites shake" was supposed to be the nas reference implying how he went from illmatic to wearing pink suits etc in street dreams alleging he bit Biggie's Mafioso Style

BUT there was a Jeru dis in there too another subliminal response to Jeru's One Day where he had a go and bad boy and death row etc
"son im surprised you run with them I think they got cum in them cos they nothin but d*cks" is supposed to be talking to primo who made both beats like "i cant beleive you hang with this dude"

Jeru is a black belt and supposed to be nice with the hands

Puffy didnt want this beat on the album and turned it down but biggie recorded it anyway

Big was supposed to form a "supergroup" to rival The Firm (foxy, nas, az, cormega/nature)

It was to be called "the comission" and was to feature Big, Jay-Z, Lil Cease and Charli Baltimore

"she keep callin me BIG but my name is Jay-Z" from "Is that yo b*tch" is an alleged reference to Jay having also hit charli baltimore dunnoabout the validity of this one

Dame Dash has had ab sculpting and lypo suction

Jim Jones allegedly splapped Jay-Z after diplomats were excluded from last year's "farewell" tour
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I don't think Serch rapped with Sabac and Ill Bill, I thought he only managed them, and then things fells apart. It says it on that Green CD or whatever that shit was called.

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MASTER416 wrote:I don't think Serch rapped with Sabac and Ill Bill, I thought he only managed them, and then things fells apart. It says it on that Green CD or whatever that shit was called.
He did. He's on a few of the early 12s.

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Before joining The Roots, Rahzel was in a crew called the Vibe Khameleons, which I'm pretty sure included Sha-Key, J-Live, Ill Bill, and Priest from Anti-Pop.

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heres a good one

Puffy

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had a fight with Irish Boyband member Shane Lynch from Boyzone



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at Dublin's temple theatre in 99 after the MTV Europe Music Awards after puff tried to kick him and his wife - girl band singer Esther from Eternal out of the VIP

Shane Lynch wasn't having it and rushed him there was bouncers everywhere - Puff sat up on the table spitting champagne at him

The Tabloids had a field day "Puff Daddy Meets Tuff Paddy"
I was there it was fairly hilarious as Lynch did not seem to give a f*ck about the huge security presence with Puff and ran straight at him

The Hilarity continued when Lynch and Keith Duffy another former member of boyzone released a "dis" track of Puff in Ireland and the UK

The Track "girl you know its true" was a "rap" and I use that term lightly
reworking of Milli Vanilli's 80's Hit - it contained such gem lines as "when the going gets tough - the puff gets going" I sh*t you not

Needless to say it didnt chart
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^^

Oh man, thats gold. I never heard about that - classic.

You live in Dublin, Kel? I used to live there.

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Masta Ace and Fat Joe had beef in the mid 90's

Fat Joe accussed Masta Ace in some magazine of "selling out" ("what's love" anyone...?) to the west coast with The INC sh*t he was rocking - the born to roll remix etc - Ace ripped him on a dis track called "top ten" i used to have it on a tape and it was sick wish i still had it

Basically Ace breaks down the top ten reasons Fat Joe is wack on the song and it was ill had an ill KRS sample in the chorus

King Sun stepped to Ice Cube at the New Music Seminar in New York
and Ice Cube ran- the confrontation came about because Sun had accused Cube of stealing the song "wicked" for his "the predator" album

Sun also recorded a dis track of 2pac around the time of "hit em up" It wasn't very good I think doo wap did the beat but I cant remember

DMX once stated on UK radio that he thought Jay was overrated and that the Hard Knock Life shows used to be empty by time Jay was on because everyone had left after his own performance..(crack just be callin him..just be callin him)
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