Native Tongues Influence

Dr. Thaddeus Onlineus III · Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:21 pm

I got a question for you.

You can pretty clearly see the influence of NWA and affiliates in modern mainstream hip-hop. The hyper "realism" of most rap today, the supergangsta characters that rappers project, etc.

But where is the influence of groups like De La, ATCQ, Jungle Brothers in hip-hop today? They had to influence the direction of the music somehow, they were incredibly popular and made some classic music.

I'm not coming with any preconceptions here. I really don't know. Any of you have any ideas?

Edit: and please don't say "Kanye". I mean stylistically and musically. Thanks!!

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:13 am

I mean, look at Slum Village. They're kind of a contiuation of that to a certain degree.

The Roots definitely derived from that whole Native Tongue movement to the point where they became a part of it.

Black Eyed Peas's earlier stuff seemed to have that feel but now they're so party oriented that its ridiculous.

Even some of the cats out now like Atmosphere, Sage Francis, and etc. seem to have been influenced by alot of the Native Tongue era if you listen to how they do their music closely.

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:38 am

ardamus wrote:I mean, look at Slum Village. They're kind of a contiuation of that to a certain degree.

The Roots definitely derived from that whole Native Tongue movement to the point where they became a part of it.

Black Eyed Peas's earlier stuff seemed to have that feel but now they're so party oriented that its ridiculous.

Even some of the cats out now like Atmosphere, Sage Francis, and etc. seem to have been influenced by alot of the Native Tongue era if you listen to how they do their music closely.

hope

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:49 pm

reason is yellow wrote:
ardamus wrote:I mean, look at Slum Village. They're kind of a contiuation of that to a certain degree.

The Roots definitely derived from that whole Native Tongue movement to the point where they became a part of it.

Black Eyed Peas's earlier stuff seemed to have that feel but now they're so party oriented that its ridiculous.

Even some of the cats out now like Atmosphere, Sage Francis, and etc. seem to have been influenced by alot of the Native Tongue era if you listen to how they do their music closely.
hope

Exactly. That's a perfect example.

And.....I almost forgot this one: Little Brother. They're like a big continuation of that whole movement in itself right there. All it took was just for ?uestlove to say "hey these guys are good" and now look....they're everywhere and a part of that movement.

MistaTurk · Post by **MistaTurk** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:31 pm

j-live, kweli, mos def

blessingindisguise · Post by **blessingindisguise** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:03 am

Kanye West too

clark bent · Post by **clark bent** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:03 am

digable

Zeed Stun · Post by **Zeed Stun** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:32 pm

People Under the Stairs.

zizek · Post by **zizek** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:19 am

Nearly every underground artist (sans Def Jux pessimism) has some NT influence. Check the entire Quannum roster, plus J-Live, Little Brother,
Brother Ali, etc.

Sebastian gets busy · Post by **Sebastian gets busy** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:57 am

boogiemonsters

ugly duckling

siah and yeshua

asheru and blue black

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:00 am

Sebastian gets busy wrote: asheru and blue black

excellent answer

boogie shoes · Post by **boogie shoes** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:22 pm

what about

common

the feather heads

traingular mixleplix and his albumn "positivity tree"

oracle21 · Post by **oracle21** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:48 pm

yeah ahseru def does although i am not feeling blue black. j-live to an extent as well as even sub conscious

SYM · Post by **SYM** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:57 pm

time machine, too.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:57 pm

reason is yellow wrote:
Sebastian gets busy wrote: asheru and blue black
excellent answer

oh hell yeah, their whole album is nothing but that influence for real

the difference in it is its approach with that style

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:59 pm

SYMantiks wrote:time machine, too.

ever see them perform live? they do the old school 3-Times-Dope dances on stage......shit's hot

SYM · Post by **SYM** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:57 pm

ardamus wrote:
SYMantiks wrote:time machine, too.
ever see them perform live? they do the old school 3-Times-Dope dances on stage......shit's hot

the dance to "the wiggle" certainly is something to be seen. nice guys too.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:53 am

SYMantiks wrote:
ardamus wrote:
SYMantiks wrote:time machine, too.
ever see them perform live? they do the old school 3-Times-Dope dances on stage......shit's hot
the dance to "the wiggle" certainly is something to be seen. nice guys too.

word....i went to college with Comel and met Jaysonic through i really close friend of mine in DC.....we hung out a few times