The Boogiemonsters Vs. Da Bush Babees

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The Boogiemonsters Vs. Da Bush Babees

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Similarities:

Both had rappers with cartoonish sounding deliveries that still came off dope.

Both released two LPs. Both sophomore albums had a stripped-down Ummah-esque feel, with mixed results.

Both were definitely in the "Native Tongues" ballpark aesthetically.

Both had bugged out surreal type videos.

Both groups pretty much crumbled into obsolescence after members attempted to forge solo careers.


Differences:

Boogiemonsters were Jehovah's witnesses; Bush Babees had that confusing 5%er/Rastafarian/Afrocentrist vibe going on.

Bush Babees had a high-yellow Jamaican reggae singer who was better than both rappers; Boogiemonsters started out with two incredible producers who left the group after the first album.

Da Bush Babees did songs with Q-Tip, Mos Def, and De La Soul. The Boogiemonsters had a lackluster verse from Bahamadia.

Boogiemonsters are named after a folkloric figure that has often been associated with black stereotypes. Da Bush Babees are named after a kind of primate that lives in Madagascar.

Discuss.

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i actually listen to bush babees like once a month :arrow:

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Re: The Boogiemonsters Vs. Da Bush Babees

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Paragraph President wrote:Similarities:

Both had rappers with cartoonish sounding deliveries that still came off dope.

Both released two LPs. Both sophomore albums had a stripped-down Ummah-esque feel, with mixed results.

Both were definitely in the "Native Tongues" ballpark aesthetically.

Both had bugged out surreal type videos.

Both groups pretty much crumbled into obsolescence after members attempted to forge solo careers.


Differences:

Boogiemonsters were Jehovah's witnesses; Bush Babees had that confusing 5%er/Rastafarian/Afrocentrist vibe going on.

Bush Babees had a high-yellow Jamaican reggae singer who was better than both rappers; Boogiemonsters started out with two incredible producers who left the group after the first album.

Da Bush Babees did songs with Q-Tip, Mos Def, and De La Soul. The Boogiemonsters had a lackluster verse from Bahamadia.

Boogiemonsters are named after a folkloric figure that has often been associated with black stereotypes. Da Bush Babees are named after a kind of primate that lives in Madagascar.

Discuss.

Damn, I haven't listened to either one of their sophmore efforts. But Ambushed gets more play than Riders on the Storm in my deck. I was sleeping big time on Boogie Monsters when they 1st came out.

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That's odd because Ambushed is completely uneven and mostly forgettable to me. Riders of The Storm is incredible, there's really no album I can accurately compare it to, it's like 3 Feet High and Rising on blotter acid...

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Re: The Boogiemonsters Vs. Da Bush Babees

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UsualSuspekt wrote: Damn, I haven't listened to either one of their sophmore efforts. But Ambushed gets more play than Riders on the Storm in my deck. I was sleeping big time on Boogie Monsters when they 1st came out.
"Gravity" is actually an incredible album.

http://rapidshare.com/files/46681844/da ... ravity.rar

I jacked the link from some Polish hip hop board. :larry:

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Gravity is pretty good but also very one-note...

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These should be weekly themed threads Thun. It's informative, fun and compelling to dispute instead of just throwing up an album cover and typing discuss.

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Re: The Boogiemonsters Vs. Da Bush Babees

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Roy Johnson wrote:
UsualSuspekt wrote: Damn, I haven't listened to either one of their sophmore efforts. But Ambushed gets more play than Riders on the Storm in my deck. I was sleeping big time on Boogie Monsters when they 1st came out.
"Gravity" is actually an incredible album.

http://rapidshare.com/files/46681844/da ... ravity.rar

I jacked the link from some Polish hip hop board. :larry:
Thanks Roy. I'll cop it and get back :) I loved the first one for sure. I did hear that the Boogie Monsters 2nd effort was an abortion, but you cant always go on what you hear.

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Philaflava wrote:These should be weekly themed threads Thun. It's informative, fun and compelling to dispute instead of just throwing up an album cover and typing discuss.
This is true.

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Re: The Boogiemonsters Vs. Da Bush Babees

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UsualSuspekt wrote:
Roy Johnson wrote:
UsualSuspekt wrote: Damn, I haven't listened to either one of their sophmore efforts. But Ambushed gets more play than Riders on the Storm in my deck. I was sleeping big time on Boogie Monsters when they 1st came out.
"Gravity" is actually an incredible album.

http://rapidshare.com/files/46681844/da ... ravity.rar

I jacked the link from some Polish hip hop board. :larry:
Thanks Roy. I'll cop it and get back :) I loved the first one for sure. I did hear that the Boogie Monsters 2nd effort was an abortion, but you cant always go on what you hear.
The second album wasn't THAT bad, but it's not a hugely enjoyable listen either. The production is so bland an unimaginative. Vex and Mondo rip shit, though. There are links to be found online, google it, but let me know if you can't find it and I'll up it.

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Paragraph President wrote:Gravity is pretty good but also very one-note...
I hear you. It's a pretty dope album all the way through, though. I don't even like Mr. Man all that much, but I don't get the urge to hit fast forward whenever I listen to this.

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Roy Johnson wrote:
Paragraph President wrote:Gravity is pretty good but also very one-note...
I hear you. It's a pretty dope album all the way through, though. I don't even like Mr. Man all that much, but I don't get the urge to hit fast forward whenever I listen to this.
Am I the only one who thinks the reggae guy was ridiculously ill for that style and much better than both Mr. Man and Lee Majors?

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Am I the only one who thinks the reggae guy was ridiculously ill for that style and much better than both Mr. Man and Lee Majors?
The reggae guy (Light?) is great. I like Lee Majors too, although I'm not feeling any of his post-Gravity solo material.

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bush babees.

i love riders of da storm. honeydips in gotham with the original and remixes is one of my favorite 12"es
the rest of the album was great aswell.
but their 2nd album wasnt near as good though it had its moments.

bush babees 1st album was mostly forgettable tbh, but it has 2 incredible standout tracks one of wich is a hiphop classic imo.
and the 2nd album is great fron to back. i cant see the mixed results. the athe album is one of the best of its year. and that was the last great year for albums. 97 was still evry good though.
but if you dont like tracks, gravity, sos, love song, wax, melting plastic, 3 mcs then you have no soul and must not like hiphop.

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There's this amazing Boogiemonsters song that I think was on their second album that I had on my old iPod that crashed. I remember one line was a parody of those "sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you dont' commercials".

Anyway, the song is extremely dope and if anyone knows what I'm talking about, I'd appreciate an upload.

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Money Gripp wrote:There's this amazing Boogiemonsters song that I think was on their second album that I had on my old iPod that crashed. I remember one line was a parody of those "sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you dont' commercials".

Anyway, the song is extremely dope and if anyone knows what I'm talking about, I'd appreciate an upload.
:naswtf:

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Paragraph President wrote:
Money Gripp wrote:There's this amazing Boogiemonsters song that I think was on their second album that I had on my old iPod that crashed. I remember one line was a parody of those "sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you dont' commercials".

Anyway, the song is extremely dope and if anyone knows what I'm talking about, I'd appreciate an upload.
:naswtf:
I'm dead-ass. :lol:

Maybe it was a b-side. I hope I didn't hallucinate the whole thing because it was pretty dope as I remember.

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Money Gripp wrote:
Paragraph President wrote:
Money Gripp wrote:There's this amazing Boogiemonsters song that I think was on their second album that I had on my old iPod that crashed. I remember one line was a parody of those "sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you dont' commercials".

Anyway, the song is extremely dope and if anyone knows what I'm talking about, I'd appreciate an upload.
:naswtf:
I'm dead-ass. :lol:

Maybe it was a b-side. I hope I didn't hallucinate the whole thing because it was pretty dope as I remember.

Do you remember ANYTHING else?

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Paragraph President wrote:
Money Gripp wrote:
Paragraph President wrote:
Money Gripp wrote:There's this amazing Boogiemonsters song that I think was on their second album that I had on my old iPod that crashed. I remember one line was a parody of those "sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you dont' commercials".

Anyway, the song is extremely dope and if anyone knows what I'm talking about, I'd appreciate an upload.
:naswtf:
I'm dead-ass. :lol:

Maybe it was a b-side. I hope I didn't hallucinate the whole thing because it was pretty dope as I remember.



Do you remember ANYTHING else?
I remember this bugged-out voice that kept saying "straaaaaaannnge" and the beat had a very dark vibe.

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I gotta go with Boogiemonsters on this one. I remember hearing Gravity and not getting into it very much. But I'll give it another shot. Its been a minute since I've heard it. Both Boogiemonsters albums were dope. The second had a crazy raw sound to it.
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Money Gripp wrote:
Paragraph President wrote:
Money Gripp wrote:
Paragraph President wrote:
Money Gripp wrote:There's this amazing Boogiemonsters song that I think was on their second album that I had on my old iPod that crashed. I remember one line was a parody of those "sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you dont' commercials".

Anyway, the song is extremely dope and if anyone knows what I'm talking about, I'd appreciate an upload.
:naswtf:
I'm dead-ass. :lol:

Maybe it was a b-side. I hope I didn't hallucinate the whole thing because it was pretty dope as I remember.



Do you remember ANYTHING else?
I remember this bugged-out voice that kept saying "straaaaaaannnge" and the beat had a very dark vibe.
The song is called "Strange" off their first album.

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:upload: said track?

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Damn, I haven't listened to either one of their sophmore efforts. But Ambushed gets more play than Riders on the Storm in my deck.

I'm probably alone with this, but 'Ambushed' is a personal favourite of mine - that album bangs...

I remember seeing 'Swing It' on Yo! back in the day and copping the album on the strength of that track, so was stoked that it had 'Remember We' and 'We Run things'...

The Salaam Remi remix of 'Remember We' from the 12" is bonkers...

Am I the only one who thinks the reggae guy was ridiculously ill for that style and much better than both Mr. Man and Lee Majors?

I really liked Y-Tee, but thought both Mr Man and Lee Majors / Babyface Chaos were okay...

Also, that 'Brooklyn Movements' joint was nice too...

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I think it's the same song, but the beat was much different. Had a sick guitar sample. Remix possibly? I'm stumped.

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Post by Huldrich Bullsh!t »

yeah that song is strange. and that "bugged"voice is cameo.

and i agree the remember we remix is even better than the original.

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Mark 563 wrote: I remember seeing 'Swing It' on Yo! back in the day and copping the album on the strength of that track, so was stoked that it had 'Remember We' and 'We Run things'...
Bought the album on the strength of seeing Swing It on Yo! MTV Raps too. Was kind of gutted that it wasn't the same mix as the one in the video. Still enjoyed the album though.

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Money Gripp wrote:I think it's the same song, but the beat was much different. Had a sick guitar sample. Remix possibly? I'm stumped.
There is a remix, and maybe even two... There was a thread here recently where someone upped the 12"... Unless I hallucinated that.

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Bought the album on the strength of seeing Swing It on Yo! MTV Raps too. Was kind of gutted that it wasn't the same mix as the one in the video. Still enjoyed the album though.

The CD has both mixes on it, doesn't it??? The album version and the Jazziness remix (which was the one from the video)...

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Post by blessingindisguise »

These should be weekly themed threads Thun. It's informative, fun and compelling to dispute instead of just throwing up an album cover and typing discuss.
Co-sign.

I'm going with Boogiemonsters on here for Riders of the storm.

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Post by Roy Johnson »

Here's a Stretch & Bobbito show from 1996 w/ the Bush Babees. It's about 90 minutes altogether, and spread out over two 60 MB audio files.

Part 1
http://www.zshare.net/download/5707669472970d/

Part 2
http://www.zshare.net/download/570926309c5678/

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