how many of you invert the Y axis on FPS's?

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:11 pm

I was getting my balls busted the other day while playing COD MW2 with some friends. We were playing online, die 3 times pass the controller type shit and everytime it came back to me i had to invert the axis.

Now i remember when inverted Y axis used to be the default setting in most FPS's but now i've noticed its the other way around.

It must be an age thing. My theory is it carries over from flight sims. Flight sims were technically the first type of game with a first/3rd person view and when free look was introduced into FPS it just seemed more natural to have it reversed by default. I have a hell of a time trying to play it un-inverted. In my group of friends i'm the huge minority on this one.

How many of you guys invert the Y axis?

Dwight Strawberry · Post by **Dwight Strawberry** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:17 pm

I can't play shooters or even 3rd person adventure games without inverting the Y axis

Stunna7516 · Post by **Stunna7516** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:21 pm

I am terrible at playing inverted, always have been.

I have some friends that liked using the crazy James Bond controls in Halo, which feel horribly awkward to me... that is looking left and right with the left stick and strafing with the right stick.

EMCEE DARTH MALEK · Post by **EMCEE DARTH MALEK** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:57 pm

inverted
i own a wii

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:00 pm

Stunna7516 wrote:I am terrible at playing inverted, always have been.

I have some friends that liked using the crazy James Bond controls in Halo, which feel horribly awkward to me... that is looking left and right with the left stick and strafing with the right stick.

ahh yes, the turok control style (first time i noticed that config was in turok for 64)

what they need to implement in all FPS games is a button that will instantly do a 180. nothing is worse that realizing someone is shooting at you from behind and you have to wait while your guy turns around.

A__TRAIN · Post by **A__TRAIN** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:03 pm

Used to play invert but i guess i just changed along with the industry.

ps. i got a friend who plays halo with bumper jumper controls, that shit is annoying in a controller rotation.

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:19 pm

A__TRAIN wrote:Used to play invert but i guess i just changed along with the industry.

ps. i got a friend who plays halo with bumper jumper controls, that shit is annoying in a controller rotation.

did you make a conscious effort to switch? do u remember what the learning curve was like?

i'm wondering if putting in the time to switch to the norm might improve my gaming skillz. i remember the switch from pure keyboard to mouse/keyboard in quake2 was rocky but improved deathmatch performance immeasurably.

ric · Post by **ric** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:24 pm

i cant invert and i dont know why people MUST invert. its wierd. if youre going to invert one axis you may as well invert the other but why even bother at this point. when i want to look at something why should i press the opposite direction for up and down and the same direction right and left?

some friends try to pass off inverting like its a skill that makes you more gangster or something. like....no....its just some inoccuous preference

ROSARIO · Post by **ROSARIO** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:27 pm

I only remember it being standard in goldeneye...never really played an fps again on a console till halo

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:30 pm

ric wrote:i cant invert and i dont know why people MUST invert. its wierd. if youre going to invert one axis you may as well invert the other but why even bother at this point. when i want to look at something why should i press the opposite direction for up and down and the same direction right and left?

some friends try to pass off inverting like its a skill that makes you more gangster or something. like....no....its just some inoccuous preference

i don't think its a preference as much as a learned behavior from back in the flight sim days. When you play flight sims on a console i bet you invert?

ric · Post by **ric** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:34 pm

never got into airplane games at all.

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:46 pm

when I play flight games I still invert but FPS I rock regularly.

wheels · Post by **wheels** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:07 pm

When Halo 1 came out I used to invert it because I'd been playing goldeneye pretty religously up until that point. My buddies had gone to standard controls and it was really fucking up rotations. They were also kicking my ass.

So when they wanted me to switch I didn't need a whole lot of convincig. It took a while to adjust, but I got used to it and got a lot better at fps games. For me at least it's a more natural setup, my brain works quicker I guess.

In the same vein I've played plenty of FPS games with a mouse and keyboard, and while I agree that it's a superior control scheme I'm much better with a controller.

LameAim · Post by **LameAim** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:45 pm

Game controllers, absolutely need to invert.

On the rare occasions where I'm playing a FPS on a computer and have a mouse, I don't.

bent · Post by **bent** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:35 pm

ric wrote:i cant invert and i dont know why people MUST invert. its wierd. if youre going to invert one axis you may as well invert the other but why even bother at this point. when i want to look at something why should i press the opposite direction for up and down and the same direction right and left?

I have to invert.

The way I hold the controller I'm more pressing forward than up. I look at the analog stick like the characters head, pressing it forward makes the character look down.

Makes a lot more sense IMO

360 · Post by **360** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:32 pm

I made a conscious effort to switch from inverted to normal.

I do remember back in the days, everything came inverted(most likely from the flying games of nintendo i.e. top gun).

I have noticed that if you give someone a controller who has never really played video games, they naturally play the inverted style.

It is most likely from the perspective one has when holding the controller. One would pull back to go up.

I use the bumper jumper set up when I used to play Halo. I wish it existed in COD. It really is much more efficient in that, when you jump, you still have full control of the aiming recticle.

I blame Top Gun.

manwhore · Post by **manwhore** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:44 am

bent wrote:I have to invert.

The way I hold the controller I'm more pressing forward than up. I look at the analog stick like the characters head, pressing it forward makes the character look down.

Makes a lot more sense IMO

Combo7 · Post by **Combo7** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:20 am

Have always had to invert since playing X-Wing on the PC as a kid.

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:47 am

Combo7 wrote:Have always had to invert since playing X-Wing on the PC as a kid.

LOL; man that brings back memories. i loved that series of games. xwing,tie fighter, xwing versus tie fighter.

i remember pirating tie fighter back in the day, and in order to crack it you had to download a hex editor, load up the exe file and find a specific pattern of numbers to change. shit was wild.

we need another good space combat game.

well i'm glad to see inverted axis is in the majority on

i thought i was slippin' by not learning the "new" method.

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:48 am

360 wrote:I made a conscious effort to switch from inverted to normal.

do you think this improved your gaming skill?

Dragondude R · Post by **Dragondude R** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:19 pm

Used to invert all the time, but I also made the switch and I pretty much keep it default.

Nuke · Post by **Nuke** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:56 pm

I'm not sure if I invert the Y or X axis. I can't remember. I know that since playing Ocarina of Time I need everything set up that way. I remember borrowing Hitman 2 from someone and I couldn't invert the axis. Everything was backwards. I tried getting used to it but couldn't. So annoying.

360 · Post by **360** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:05 am

Balzac wrote:
360 wrote:I made a conscious effort to switch from inverted to normal.

do you think this improved your gaming skill?

Yes.

2root2 · Post by **2root2** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:28 pm

I always invert, always have done. I agree it must be a flight sim thing.

citizen · Post by **citizen** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:27 pm

HipHoppin wrote:never played any flight sims but i stay inverted just b/c of goldeneye