Best Neil Jordan Film

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:20 pm

Tremendously underrated director who I think is not only the best Irish director of my lifetime, but one of the best directors since the 1980s, period.

The Company of Wolves

Mona Lisa

We're No Angels

The Crying Game

Interview with a Vampire

Michael Collins

The Butcher Boy

In Dreams

The End of an Affair

The Good Thief

Breakfast on Pluto

cascarrabias · Post by **cascarrabias** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:30 pm

Terrible, terrible director. Poll should be Mona Lisa or The Crying Game.

The Butcher Boy, Breakfast On Pluto, The Good Thief, In Dreams were all so terrible. Not even worth a free rental from a library.

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:43 pm

cascarrabias wrote:Terrible, terrible director. Poll should be Mona Lisa or The Crying Game.

The Butcher Boy, Breakfast On Pluto, The Good Thief, In Dreams were all so terrible. Not even worth a free rental from a library.

I don't know about In Dreams or The Good Thief, but Breakfast on Pluto was interesting to say the least and The Butcher Boy is a great, great film. I don't know how you can say Pan's Labyrinth is a top 10 film and then Butcher Boy isn't worth a free rental; they're really similiar films, albeit about different political struggles and The Butcher Boy's from a young boy's POV.

Michael Collins and The End of an Affair were dope too. Ralph Fiennes and Julianne Moore put in some serious work in the latter, and Michael Collins is probably my favorite film about "The Troubles" ever.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:48 pm

the combined dreaminess of cruise and pitt along with a pre-pubescent kirsten dunst (aka in her prime) makes Interview with a Vampire a force to be reckoned with.

The Drunken Poet · Post by **The Drunken Poet** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:58 pm

Really not worth polling this... The Crying Game hands down... how can you even defend some of these? Mona Lisa is the only thing that comes even remotely close. Crying Game is a masterpiece.

Andvil · Post by **Andvil** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:15 am

like Cas said, it's either Mona Lisa or THe Crying Game

going Mona Lisa cause Bob Hoskins is one of my all-time favs

Rachel Hobozal · Post by **Rachel Hobozal** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:47 am

cascarrabias wrote:Terrible, terrible director.

Incorrect. Bad directors can't make The Crying Game.

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:23 am

The Drunken Poet wrote:Really not worth polling this... The Crying Game hands down... how can you even defend some of these? Mona Lisa is the only thing that comes even remotely close. Crying Game is a masterpiece.

Butcher Boy, Michael Collins, and The End of an Affair are all excellent films.

I can see why a bunch of 20 year old dudes wouldn't flock to The End of an Affair, but it's a pretty great adaptation of Greene's novel. It's not easy to adapt hi-brow literature to the big screen (see any F. Scott Fitzgerald adaptation, Lolita, etc.). There's no way, if you go into it having read the novel and not looking for a

film, that you can say it sucks.

Michael Collins is THE epic about the Irish struggle for independence. No film about the matter comes close in terms of historical scope.

...waiting for drizzle to come in here and style on fools about The Good Thief.

EMCEE DARTH MALEK · Post by **EMCEE DARTH MALEK** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:22 am

I only saw a couple of these but I didn't like them

so michael collins is good though?

Captin Planit · Post by **Captin Planit** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:44 am

Andvil wrote:it's either Mona Lisa or THe Crying Game

going Mona Lisa cause Bob Hoskins is one of my all-time favs

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:27 am

EMCEE DARTH MALEK wrote:I only saw a couple of these but I didn't like them

so michael collins is good though?

Very good. My former Joycian professor, who speaks Gaelic and knows more than most people about the Irish rebellion, says it's extremely historically accurate as well.

Butcher Boy > Michael Collins > The Crying Game > End of an Affair > Interview with a Vampire > We're No Angels.

I'm ashamed to say I haven't seen Good Thief, Mona Lisa, or The Company of Wolves (which some critics sweat and compare to Pan's Labyrinth and Night of the Hunter).

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:09 pm

cascarrabias wrote:Terrible, terrible director. Poll should be Mona Lisa or The Crying Game.

The Butcher Boy, Breakfast On Pluto, The Good Thief, In Dreams were all so terrible. Not even worth a free rental from a library.

wildly disagree with you here dude. The good thief is worth it for Nolte alone, who actually does a much better job playing bob than Roger Duchesne (sp?). Also, credit is due for keeping the story fairly similar yet putting a whole 'dirty' new feel on it that is abscent from the too-slick original, and making a bigger emphasis on the triangle of the girl, bob and his apprentice. The whole thing is a nice mix of style and seediness, give it a chance. And yes, i realize some of the plot twists in the end are ludicrous.

In dreams is awesome if you turn off the sound and put some floyd or miles on or something. Breakfast on pluto was crap, no arguments there. Need to see butcher boy.

All that said, i'm going with Mona Lisa, which maybe the best british crime movie ever - definitely in top 3 with Get Carter and Long Good Friday.

EMCEE DARTH MALEK · Post by **EMCEE DARTH MALEK** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:15 pm

ha ok if a gaelic speaker reps michael collins im gonna check it out.

So mona lisa was the movie about the driver for the prostitutes right? That movie was totally boring.... id put lock stock way above that in british crime movies.

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:19 pm

EMCEE DARTH MALEK wrote:ha ok if a gaelic speaker reps michael collins im gonna check it out.

LOL. Don't know if you were being sarcastic or not, but I was just saying that to emphasize that he knows a lot about Irish culture. I've talked to him about movies and he's seen countless Irish films...more than anyone here; I'm pretty sure. He was saying how Sunday Bloody Sunday and Michael Collins are two of the only films about the struggle for Irish independence he's seen that "get everything right."

EMCEE DARTH MALEK · Post by **EMCEE DARTH MALEK** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:22 pm

nah man i was serious.... im gonna check it out

gaelic is legit. haters can poge ma hone

mud · Post by **mud** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:51 pm

EMCEE DARTH MALEK wrote:nah man i was serious.... im gonna check it out

gaelic is legit. haters can poge ma hone

maith an fear.

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:58 pm

I've only seen Interview With A Vampire and We're No Angels, both of which were vaguelly passable, but seeing as this guy is a fuckin' mick i'd wager the rest of his movies suck.

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:02 pm

I Drive A Lexus wrote:but seeing as this guy is a fuckin' mick i'd wager the rest of his movies suck.

Wow. You came out of left field with that one.

No bullshit: When I was making the thread I thought, "The odds of JBL coming in here and saying something about potatoes or calling Jordan a mick is 1/100."

admiral · Post by **admiral** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:06 pm

mona lisa smile

Y@k Bollocks · Post by **Y@k Bollocks** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:09 pm

EMCEE DARTH MALEK wrote:poge ma hone

P

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:09 pm

Well, Ithithkle, he is a mick and i can't think of many movies about micks by micks that i like. Plus, it's always amusing to get a reaction out of you anytime i say anything about teh irish.

BUT, YO, DOOD I LOVE RESCUE ME AND BROTHERHOOD!!!!!!!!!

blessingindisguise · Post by **blessingindisguise** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:11 pm

He's ok just nothing really incredible or great besides Interview and Crying Game to me.

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:19 pm

I Drive A Lexus wrote:Well, Ithithkle, he is a mick and i can't think of many movies about micks by micks that i like. Plus, it's always amusing to get a reaction out of you anytime i say anything about teh irish.

BUT, YO, DOOD I LOVE RESCUE ME AND BROTHERHOOD!!!!!!!!!

The only reaction you're getting out of me recently is a

, "another played out, predictable, lame joke." If that's the reaction you're going for, then, uh, congratulations.

Blessing: Have you seen Butcher Boy, The End of an Affair, or Michael Collins? There's no way Interview With a Vampire's a better movie than both those films...unless you're just really drawn to Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt engaging in homoerotic S&M bloodplay.

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:30 pm

..says the guy whose verbal techniquez consisted of "hehe i think u might be a wop from jersey lolz..ok here's the body waxin' quip comin' up...NOW!" for, like, 3 years. Yeah, sorry, Mr. myriad of Material.

Neil Jordan is the G.O.A.T after Mallick and My Left Foot is a top 3 movie of all time. Happy now?

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:33 pm

I Drive A Lexus wrote:..says the guy whose verbal techniquez consisted of "hehe i think u might be a wop from jersey lolz..ok here's the body waxin' quip comin' up...NOW!" for, like, 3 years. Yeah, sorry, Mr. myriad of Material.

Neil Jordan is the G.O.A.T after Mallick and My Left Foot is a top 3 movie of all time. Happy now?

Malick.

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:44 pm

Never parlay without an L.

djjeffresh · Post by **djjeffresh** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:35 pm

i loooved the good thief but the only others i saw were crying game and interview and both of those were great as well.

Money Gripp · Post by **Money Gripp** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:58 pm

I Drive A Lexus wrote:Well, Ithithkle, he is a mick and i can't think of many movies about micks by micks that i like. Plus, it's always amusing to get a reaction out of you anytime i say anything about teh irish.

BUT, YO, DOOD I LOVE RESCUE ME AND BROTHERHOOD!!!!!!!!!

Out of curiosity, what'd you think of The Departed?

Big Lurk · Post by **Big Lurk** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:56 pm

Icesickle wrote: Michael Collins is THE epic about the Irish struggle for independence.

This is heaps better:

Voted end of the affair.

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:20 pm

^^^

Haven't seen it yet, but I'm cysed for that film. I was gonna put a pic from that as my sig, but then I found the Cam'ron gif.

It's coming out in the U.S. in March I think.