Joss Whedon shows

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Wed May 25, 2011 10:45 am

So i just gunned through the entire Firefly series in like 3 days.....such a shame it got canned, really amazing show. Great characters (even though Mal is a blatant reincarnation of Han Solo), great mix of action and humor...Haven't gotten a chance to catch Serenity yet but best believe that shit is gonna be on my next amazon order. Hopefully it helps tie up a bunch of the loose ends that the show never got to explain (who is the sheperd dude really, why the fuck they all randomly switch to talking in Chinese, will Mal ever stop being a faggot and bang Inara, etc). Lots of potential with River's super powers too. Such a shame, but really really good show.

Anyways, my question is, are any of his other shows near this good?

Dollhouse sounds pretty sweet, always had a boner for Eliza Dushku...anyone wanna talk me into this?

What about Buffy? I watched episodes sporadically while it aired but never enough to really understand what was going on...I know there are some people that swear by it. Seven seasons is a huge time investment though.

Have no intention of ever watching Angel....David BoringAnus always seemed like a huge homo to me. Fuck that guy.

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Wed May 25, 2011 11:27 am

Buffy and Angel when they were on TV were amongst the best shows on Television when they were on.

both are extremely recommended.

I know you wrote that you dislike Boreanez and wouldn't give Angel a try because of it, but you really should rethinking it. The first season is kinda iffy to me but after that season, it picks up steam in a major way. It also has one of my favorite episodes I've ever seen on a TV show.

I personally think Buffy is his best work but I know people that think Angel is the superior show.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed May 25, 2011 11:47 am

i like serenity lots, i've never even seen the show but that movie is a solid scifi actioner

i also have a huge boner for that dushku girl, been contemplating dollhouse as well.

Jayou Ayen · Post by **Jayou Ayen** » Wed May 25, 2011 12:11 pm

Inara >>> any other female character on a Wheldon show.

Bunz, I'm sure the extras on the series or the movie explain more of the back story.
I can't believe some of you have only seen one of the projects, but not the other.
The series on blu ray was $23 last week, and the movie is around $10.

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None · Post by **None** » Wed May 25, 2011 12:14 pm

I agree with Greg that both Buffy and Angel are worth your time. I liked Angel a bit more than Buffy (also hated Boreanas before watching it). Both have their share of convoluted season arcs and "amazing" TV special effects, but neither would be a waste of your time.

As for Dollhouse, I only watched a portion of the first season up to the episode where Patton Oswalt was a guest, but I enjoyed it. It was no where near as good as his prior shows (Would definitely recommend starting with Buffy), but good for what it was. I've heard that the first season's finale was really interesting. I need to sit down and actually watch this.

None · Post by **None** » Wed May 25, 2011 12:16 pm

Jayou Ayen wrote:The series on blu ray was $23 last week, and the movie is around $10.

Picked that shit up last week.

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Wed May 25, 2011 12:37 pm

Surprisingly, I haven't seen a single episode of Dollhouse and I don't even know what it's about.

I am also a huge fan of Eliza Dushku and want to kill Rick Fox.

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:42 pm

Word. Fuck Rick Fox.

I read on another forum that Dollhouse starts real slow but that the second season was crazy, mostly because Whedon found out early on that it was getting cancelled and packed in several seasons worth of storylines into one season.

jamrage · Post by **jamrage** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:45 pm

You dudes are really big upping Buffy?

I think I died a little inside every time I had the misfortune to watch even five minutes of it.

Buffy is every reclusive, obese, 45 year old cat woman's favorite show.

Positive A · Post by **Positive A** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:22 pm

LilLeftBrain · Post by **LilLeftBrain** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:26 pm

Tommy Bunz wrote:I read on another forum that Dollhouse starts real slow but that the second season was crazy, mostly because Whedon found out early on that it was getting cancelled and packed in several seasons worth of storylines into one season.

that's the truth. the last eight or so episodes of dollhouse are tons o' fun because of all the wacky shit going on at a breakneck pace (show basically gets great when summer glau shows up). it's a little bit of work to get to that point, but that final rush of episodes and both the season finales make it worth it

have watched all the whedon shows by now and would say that they're all absolutely worth your time. the final season of angel is the best season dude ever did
and serenity >>> firefly. watch that shit soon

LameAim · Post by **LameAim** » Wed May 25, 2011 3:07 pm

I missed Firefly blu-rays for 23 bucks? Shit.

Dollhouse starts real slow. But it gets much, much better through the latter half of the first season and carries that momentum through the second. Definitely worth watching, and the whole series is up on Netflix On Demand.

alpha · Post by **alpha** » Wed May 25, 2011 6:09 pm

LameAim wrote:I missed Firefly blu-rays for 23 bucks? Shit.

Dollhouse starts real slow. But it gets much, much better through the latter half of the first season and carries that momentum through the second. Definitely worth watching, and the whole series is up on Netflix On Demand.

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Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Wed May 25, 2011 6:34 pm

shit, i have netflix. TIME TO ROLL

LilLeftBrain · Post by **LilLeftBrain** » Wed May 25, 2011 6:39 pm

you can probably skip eps 2-6. the third or fourth ep has echo serving as a bodyguard for some beyonce type pop star and is just one of the worst episodes imaginable. the one that has her being hunted in the woods too WOOF.

Wise Cracker · Post by **Wise Cracker** » Thu May 26, 2011 12:26 am

Yep. Dollhouse is solid the 2nd half of season 1 and season 2.

Buffy is good but hasn't aged well. Never saw Angel.

Firefly is his best work IMO. Serenity is a pretty great series finale.

Kalel · Post by **Kalel** » Thu May 26, 2011 12:43 am

I actually just barreled through the entire series of "Buffy" on Netflix and am currently watching season 5 of "Angel". I would say both are worth your time to watch and agree that Buffy's earlier season hasn't aged well. It premiered in 97 though so you may get some nostalgic laughs out of it. Both shows shit on anything vampire related in 2011.

I plan on watching Firefly and Serenity after this because I never saw Firefly when it aired.

Dollhouse is dope. Nothing more I can say about it that hasn't already been said.

Gregg Poppabitch wrote:I know you wrote that you dislike Boreanez and wouldn't give Angel a try because of it, but you really should rethinking it. The first season is kinda iffy to me but after that season, it picks up steam in a major way. It also has one of my favorite episodes I've ever seen on a TV show.

Which episode are you talking about?

alpha · Post by **alpha** » Thu May 26, 2011 12:51 am

Kalel wrote:I actually just barreled through the entire series of "Buffy" on Netflix and am currently watching season 5 of "Angel". I would say both are worth your time to watch and agree that Buffy's earlier season hasn't aged well. It premiered in 97 though so you may get some nostalgic laughs out of it. Both shows shit on anything vampire related in 2011.

I plan on watching Firefly and Serenity after this because I never saw Firefly when it aired.

Dollhouse is dope. Nothing more I can say about it that hasn't already been said.

Gregg Poppabitch wrote:I know you wrote that you dislike Boreanez and wouldn't give Angel a try because of it, but you really should rethinking it. The first season is kinda iffy to me but after that season, it picks up steam in a major way. It also has one of my favorite episodes I've ever seen on a TV show.
Which episode are you talking about?

you don't like True Blood?

LilLeftBrain · Post by **LilLeftBrain** » Thu May 26, 2011 1:31 am

Kalel wrote:Which episode are you talking about?

gotta be 'hole in the world' , the puppet one, or the finale

None · Post by **None** » Thu May 26, 2011 1:46 am

LilLeftBrain wrote:
Kalel wrote:Which episode are you talking about?
gotta be 'hole in the world' , the puppet one, or the finale

The one with the Luchadores has the best line in the entire series.

Kalel · Post by **Kalel** » Thu May 26, 2011 4:16 am

alpha wrote:
Kalel wrote:I actually just barreled through the entire series of "Buffy" on Netflix and am currently watching season 5 of "Angel". I would say both are worth your time to watch and agree that Buffy's earlier season hasn't aged well. It premiered in 97 though so you may get some nostalgic laughs out of it. Both shows shit on anything vampire related in 2011.

I plan on watching Firefly and Serenity after this because I never saw Firefly when it aired.

Dollhouse is dope. Nothing more I can say about it that hasn't already been said.

Gregg Poppabitch wrote:I know you wrote that you dislike Boreanez and wouldn't give Angel a try because of it, but you really should rethinking it. The first season is kinda iffy to me but after that season, it picks up steam in a major way. It also has one of my favorite episodes I've ever seen on a TV show.
Which episode are you talking about?
you don't like True Blood?

Eh, it's alright. If I had to choose between watching an episode of Angel versus an episode of True Blood I'd choose Angel every time. Although season 4 was very boring.

It seems like True Blood, Vampire Diaries, Twilight, etc. took the idea of a vampire falling in love with a human and turned it up to 11. But I also feel that if Buffy and Angel were brand new shows in 2011 they might not make it to a second season. Not only is the idea played out, but those shows were just weird enough to lose a casual fan's interest.

LilLeftBrain wrote:
Kalel wrote:Which episode are you talking about?
gotta be 'hole in the world' , the puppet one, or the finale

The puppet episode of Angel and "The Gentlemen" episode of Buffy are fucking awesome. I remember vaguely "Hole In The World", but I'm gonna have to watch it again to remember how good it is.

LameAim · Post by **LameAim** » Thu May 26, 2011 6:06 am

LilLeftBrain wrote:you can probably skip eps 2-6. the third or fourth ep has echo serving as a bodyguard for some beyonce type pop star and is just one of the worst episodes imaginable. the one that has her being hunted in the woods too WOOF.

Yeah, there's some flat out terrible shit in the first block but they've also got some setup work that helps shape the overall season plot arc. You won't regret it much when Whedon starts putting things together. Definitely don't skip the episode with the Patton Oswalt guest spot.