Homer vs George vs Al Bundy

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:24 am

Some claims of George being the greatest sitcom character of all time in the other poll, which is a valid argument, but I think these two give him strong competition. Obviously there are other possibilities here so I'm leaving a write in vote as Other, feel free to be wrong by naming Larry or less wrong by naming Kenny Powers or whatever.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:50 am

Still gotta go with george.
Wouldn't vote homer cause, as great as he is, he is a version of something that came before him. The dopey fat loser husband has been a staple of sitcoms forever. Al Bundy was amazing too but George's character is so deep. Bundy was pretty shallow, by comparison.

On a side note, I do give props to Al Bundy being the first sitcom dad who openly sick of fucking his wife and not the reverse that is much more prevalent in TV.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:05 pm

Blockhead wrote:Bundy was pretty shallow, by comparison.

I feel like you're underrating here big time. The character and this show in general are much smarter and more nuanced satire on American culture than we could've ever appreciated while were growing up with it. It actually covered a lot of the same ground as the Simpsons in that regard. Both Homer and Al riff are based on the same blue collar slob archetype and both lovingly tear it to shreds.

admiral · Post by **admiral** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:12 pm

Bundy and it's not even close

That entire show was basically a variation on the same 5 jokes repeated ad nauseum, and he sold it every single time. The gawd Marcy + Al >>>>

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:28 pm

drizzle wrote:
Blockhead wrote:Bundy was pretty shallow, by comparison.
I feel like you're underrating here big time. The character and this show in general are much smarter and more nuanced satire on American culture than we could've ever appreciated while were growing up with it. It actually covered a lot of the same ground as the Simpsons in that regard. Both Homer and Al riff are based on the same blue collar slob archetype and both lovingly tear it to shreds.

I hear that. But I still feel like george was new territory for TV. That whole show opened the door for lovable sociopaths and george was the ultimate. Sure, you could say he's a version of a woody allen character but, even in that, the derangement of George was it's very own thing.

LilLeftBrain · Post by **LilLeftBrain** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:36 pm

well this one's can't stand ya and it's not even close

Yohan · Post by **Yohan** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:23 pm

Is there any value in starting Married With Children from the start and watching it to the end in 2015? I've seen countless loosies but I'm not sure if it's worth it in the end.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:43 pm

Yohan wrote:Is there any value in starting Married With Children from the start and watching it to the end in 2015? I've seen countless loosies but I'm not sure if it's worth it in the end.

nah, like the simpsons it really hits the stride around season 3 and keeps up with it for about 5-6 seasons, but then runs out of steam and keeps getting renewed for another couple of years. so anything from ~3-8 or so is gold, the rest is of variable quality.

LilLeftBrain · Post by **LilLeftBrain** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:58 pm

fuck, married with children was 11 seasons? thought it was maybe 5
remember the cast changes and all that but still, thought it was a much shorter span

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:07 pm

Nah, there's a whole 4 seasons before Steve is swapped for Jefferson.

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:12 pm

Word, I bought the series box set of Married With Children years ago, still haven't gotten through the second season even. I need to put it back on the top of the pile.
For me, the word greatest means its got to be Homer. Probably the most recognizable tv character in history. And even if the "dopey fat loser husband" character had been done before, its never been done better.

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:37 pm

voted Homer J with no hesitation

EMCEE DARTH MALEK · Post by **EMCEE DARTH MALEK** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:46 pm

saw this thread comin with the george claims

can't call it

ChaMerZ · Post by **ChaMerZ** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:05 pm

Not a Simpson fan, and I haven't watched (or heard of) any of the other shows referenced by OP. I suppose its an age thing. Sticking with Costanza.

tehgiftofgab · Post by **tehgiftofgab** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:08 pm

You've never even heard of married w children or Seinfeld??

Tweak Da Leak · Post by **Tweak Da Leak** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:13 pm

LOL reminds me of this d-league nigga i was playing ball with that said he never saw iverson play(No RW)

ChaMerZ · Post by **ChaMerZ** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:28 pm

Seinfeld is a great show. I watch it every time its on. I'm planning on watching everything from start to finish some time soon.

I've literally never heard of Married With Children. Simpsons is ... eeh. I don't know. Lost interest. Keep in mind that I'm younger than a lot of the posters here so place my post in context.

I had an argument with my cousin a couple of days ago regarding Seinfeld. She said she doesn't like Seinfeld because it 'looks dated'. I won the argument and put her in her place but it really made me realize how old Seinfeld is.

LilLeftBrain · Post by **LilLeftBrain** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:44 pm

kerry kittles tho

LilLeftBrain · Post by **LilLeftBrain** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:44 pm

well now i'm fucking dated

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:47 pm

admiral wrote:Bundy and it's not even close

Tweak Da Leak · Post by **Tweak Da Leak** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:06 pm

It's pretty wild when you realize the early seinfeld seasons were on the same time as twin peaks.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:08 pm

Tweak Da Leak wrote:It's pretty wild when you realize the early seinfeld seasons were on the same time as twin peaks.

simpsons too, although might not have been at their peak yeat. MWC was right at the peak at this time.

alpha · Post by **alpha** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:22 pm

D'oh. Al's the third best character in the poll

EMCEE DARTH MALEK · Post by **EMCEE DARTH MALEK** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:55 pm

i don't like al bundy nearly as much as you guys/some of my friends. i like what he represents as the unapologetic masculine essence in all of us. maybe more realistic character than the other two. but dint find him as funny tbh.

Raphael De La Ghetto · Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:13 pm

Of course peak seasons of MWC isn't touching the Simpsons or Seinfeld, but Al Bundy is the greatest sitcom character ever.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:52 pm

tehgiftofgab wrote:You've never even heard of married w children or Seinfeld??

He's from "canada". But I think he lives in the part of canada that's right by croatia.

GUCCI CONDOMS · Post by **GUCCI CONDOMS** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:18 am

Mr burns is the best sitcom character of all time and should be a choice in this poll

T Rav · Post by **T Rav** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:30 am

Blockhead wrote:
tehgiftofgab wrote:You've never even heard of married w children or Seinfeld??
He's from "canada". But I think he lives in the part of canada that's right by croatia.

Zagreb, Ontario?

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:03 am

Homer Simpson. The fact his character is based upon an archetype is besides the point.. The Simpsons has the best overall writing & the most jokes out of the three shows in question

The Afronaut · Post by **The Afronaut** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:10 am

George. I love Homer too. It's hella close, but George edges him out. Maybe because he's human rather than a cartoon?