http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1273235/
has this been discussed yet? Anyone see it?
I'm too much of a pussy and probably never will, but people are saying that it's one of the most brutal movies ever.
If this is what Serbia will be known for in the coming years, it would be cool a little, because it will shine the light off the genocide of Muslims in the 90s, but it will still make Vlade Divac cry.
A Serbian Film
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I think Spartan made thread about Serbian Film.
http://www.philaflava.com/forum/viewtop ... ht=serbian
http://www.philaflava.com/forum/viewtop ... ht=serbian
anyway, here are some photos of one of the actress that has been raped in the movie.
nice tits yo.
nice tits yo.
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an english dude I am facebook friends with saw it and wrote this
Just watched "A Serbian Film". I am utterly stunned to be honest. As a well seasoned gore / horror fanatic this goes waaaay beyond *any* film I have ever seen before. Staggeringly over-the-top and totally uncompromising in every way. I can't wait to see it on the big screen at Frightfest! If you're going to watch it th...en do yourself a favour and don't read any spoilers first. You'll spoil the "fun".
Just watched "A Serbian Film". I am utterly stunned to be honest. As a well seasoned gore / horror fanatic this goes waaaay beyond *any* film I have ever seen before. Staggeringly over-the-top and totally uncompromising in every way. I can't wait to see it on the big screen at Frightfest! If you're going to watch it th...en do yourself a favour and don't read any spoilers first. You'll spoil the "fun".
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Watching this tonight. I'm very disappointed to see people on horror/genre-film forums acting all Nancy Reagan and condemning the director to the furthest recess of hell, without even having seen the movie.
It looks highly artistic and certainly not like some August Underground geeksmut, which lots of people have no problem praising. The BD reviewer gave it [Sprski Film] one skull because of 'moral reasons' - even though he had to admit it was a great movie technically. What kinda bullshit is that? Crank up an MGM-weepie and get a new hobby, muppet.
It looks highly artistic and certainly not like some August Underground geeksmut, which lots of people have no problem praising. The BD reviewer gave it [Sprski Film] one skull because of 'moral reasons' - even though he had to admit it was a great movie technically. What kinda bullshit is that? Crank up an MGM-weepie and get a new hobby, muppet.
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A couple of really brutal, uncomfortable scenes. But I feel like the director (who, it has to be said, is pretty talented) didn't do it for pure shock value. There are some themes at the core of this film. I'm not 100% sure about what they are, or really what he's saying here: Serbia sucks? The line between "art" and "brutality"? Fuck if I know...but there's something there.
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I'll try to be brief, but this movie is phenomenal. It's very hard to 'like' movies like these as they are an acquired taste, some of the clips and in particular the conclusion, is so gruesome that there's a colossal stigma attached to praising it. But when the hypedust settles, what we have is an excellently paced thriller with high production values, great lighting, decent acting, a witty script and of course imagery so gruesome it messes with your head quite a bit. What some reviewers completely miss, is the fact that the gore wasn't even needed to make this a great movie, it's just an extra punch added to the bombardment and assault on your senses. For the sake of dwelling on the gore-aspect a bit, it's actually not as bad as you think it is. Murder-Set-Pieces and the AU trilogy go to much more extreme length to visually repel you and the dismemberment etc. takes up 70% of the screentime. In this fantastic flick, the gore itself is about 5-10%, the only reason that is more shocking, is the fact that the suspense and concept is crafted with the precision of a surgeon and the virtuosity of a maniac.
Moving right along, A Serbian Film certainly has some symbolic and post-modern messages that might get completely lost in the porn, torture and brain-rape. The post-modern aspects are easy to spot, as the chats with the director also function as a running commentary of Sprski Film itself, the director admitted as much. Furthermore the use of fucking-metaphors is taken to the extreme and related to the plight of modern movie-makers in the opressive climate of Eastern Europe. To quote the director himself, this is their grindhouse-era, this is their post-vietnam movies, this is their middle-fingers to cinema bon-ton tropes and themes. If you want to take the analogies in the movie further, you can say that this is also a commentary on the Eastern bloc post-WW2, but I would be to shy to explain how, as it would also require some spoilers. This is more shocking than Anti-Christ and carries approximately as much punch as Martyrs, it's also just as good as those movies, visually it treads similar territories and stand shoulder-by-shoulder with the forerunners of New Extremism in Europe. I wish I could see this in theaters, solely to survey the reactions of the crowds as they weep with indignation and march. This is an excellent film and I don't care what people may think about me for considering it to be so. I'm a reactionary viewer definitely, but I know a thoroughly crafted and wielded movie when I see it. This is it. So much for being brief.
Moving right along, A Serbian Film certainly has some symbolic and post-modern messages that might get completely lost in the porn, torture and brain-rape. The post-modern aspects are easy to spot, as the chats with the director also function as a running commentary of Sprski Film itself, the director admitted as much. Furthermore the use of fucking-metaphors is taken to the extreme and related to the plight of modern movie-makers in the opressive climate of Eastern Europe. To quote the director himself, this is their grindhouse-era, this is their post-vietnam movies, this is their middle-fingers to cinema bon-ton tropes and themes. If you want to take the analogies in the movie further, you can say that this is also a commentary on the Eastern bloc post-WW2, but I would be to shy to explain how, as it would also require some spoilers. This is more shocking than Anti-Christ and carries approximately as much punch as Martyrs, it's also just as good as those movies, visually it treads similar territories and stand shoulder-by-shoulder with the forerunners of New Extremism in Europe. I wish I could see this in theaters, solely to survey the reactions of the crowds as they weep with indignation and march. This is an excellent film and I don't care what people may think about me for considering it to be so. I'm a reactionary viewer definitely, but I know a thoroughly crafted and wielded movie when I see it. This is it. So much for being brief.
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Just read this....Holy fuck I will never ever ever see this movie...
***********SPOILER begins now*****************
Milosh is a former porn star who took an early retirement. He's now married to this beautiful woman, forgot her name, and has a cute little son. Milosh and his family are quickly running out of money, and presumably are in risk of losing their home. They can barely afford Milosh's son's singing lessons. Milosh's brother, Marko, is jealous of Milosh's family and lusts after his wife, but otherwise seems like an okay guy. One of Milosh's ex porn-buddies, lets call her Janka since I can't remember her name, tells Milosh she has a big "art" porn project for him that's gonna pay him heftily. Milosh is intitally hesistant. The porn director is this maniac ex-child-psychologist, Vukmir, who demands that Milosh be left in the dark about what the art-porn is gonna be about, so as to make it more like his vision.
Milosh agrees, though cautiously. We then see the first few days of the shoot. Basically Milosh is given an earpiece and Vukmir directs him through it. Two burly MEN in police-like uniforms film Milosh as he goes to a child orphanage and has hardcore sex with a BRUISED AND BLEEDING WOMAN while her DAUGHTER watches. Milosh is not into this and quits, but not before Vukmir goes on a spiele and shows him a tape of his lastest venture... newborn porn. Basically, it shows a woman giving birth to a newborn and then the guy fvcking it (not as explicit as you may imagine btw). Milosh freaks out and leaves but he passes out at a red light, because Vukmir's assistant, lets call her "hot doctor bitch," slipped him something like bull viagra in his drink.
When Milosh awakens he's in his home and he has no memory of what happened. His wife and child are missing. He then begins to retrace his steps and we learn through lengthy flashbacks what happened. This is what happened:
Milosh is dragged back to Vukmir's where some blonde woman, perhaps the same chick from earlier, is tied to a bed naked. The drugs have taken hold of Milosh and he is horny, animalistic, and out of control of his actions. Vukmir and his thug associates film all of the following. Horny as *beep* Milosh fvcks the *beep* out of her as Vukmir describes to him what a horrible woman he's fvcking. The blonde supposedly is the wife of a war hero who cheated on him and slept with tons of other men and ignored her own daughter's well-being. Vukmir tells Milosh to beat her. He does and (in what I consider the most graphic part) you begin to see bruises pop up as he beats the *beep* out of her while fvcking her. Vukmir then hands Milosh a knife and Milosh slices her head off. He continues to fvck the corpse.
Milosh also learns that Janka, the friend that set him up with Vukmir, argued with Vukmir that drugging Milosh is not the way to go about "this" (what "this" is will be explained later) and that she is taking Milosh with her and leaving. Vukmir responds by drugging her. She awakens chained naked in some room with all her teeth knocked out. A nude man wearing a bag over his head enters and fvcks her mouth until she chokes to death on his penis.
Milosh escapes but is recaptured by Vukmir's thugs. He is brought to some warehouse where hot doctor bitch injects him with more bull viagra, but Milosh retaliates and stabs her in the neck with her own needle. She passes out. He then wanders into some room where two naked bodies (still alive but drugged) are tied to the ground with their heads covered. They're laid out for him to fvck. Vukmir, all the thugs, and the naked guy with the mask are there filming it. Milosh immediately starts fvcking the bodies. First the one on the right, then the smaller one on the left. The guy with the mask joins in.
During the fvckfest, Vukmir takes off the guy with the mask's mask. It ends up being Marko. Vukmir then removes the masks from the bodies that both Marko and Milosh are fvcking. Marko is fvcking Milosh's wife. Milosh is fvcking.... (hold for it) his own son.
So the twist here is that Vukmir and his company of thugs make these "revenge fvck snuff films" where I presume people hire them to capture, beat, punish, rape, and eventually kill people who have wronged them. A mother-in-law hired Vukmir's company to do it to that blonde from earlier. Marko, I guess, hired Vukmir's company to do it for him, so he could fulfill the fantasy of fvcking Milosh's wife and tearing their family apart.
So back to the warehouse. The hot doctor bitch stumbles in and distracts everybody, just enough time for Milosh to grab Vukmir and beat his head into the floor until the guy dies. Milosh's wife then attacks Marko and bludgeons him to death with some stone slab. The thugs attack Milosh but he manages to wrestle a gun from them and shoot them all... except the meanest thug. He fights with the meanest thug and eventually pokes his eyes out. Then for some reason he sticks his erect penis into the guys eye socket and kills him that way. Milosh's wife, still drugged and frightened, tries to stab Milosh but he manages to knock her out and take her and his son to some house, locking them in a room.
The frame story comes full way and now Milosh knows what has happened. He goes and picks up his wife and child. The boy is in some sort of trance, totally incapable of saying anything or blinking much. The wife too is basically half dead. The family then cradles themselves into a bed and commit suicide via one gunshot through all of their hearts.
The bodies are discovered by Vukmir's right-hand-man, who was not at the warehouse at the time, and some of his thugs. They're video-taping the corpses. The right-hand-man tells one of his thugs, "Okay. Start with the little one." as the thug unbuckles his belt.
************END SPOILERS***************
The whole thing is this intentionally overly-graphic, absurd, grotesque, exploitation film that's supposed to be a microcosm about the Serbian people and how they are self-destructive. Something like that. Haven't had time to do an analytical reading.
Happy?
***********SPOILER begins now*****************
Milosh is a former porn star who took an early retirement. He's now married to this beautiful woman, forgot her name, and has a cute little son. Milosh and his family are quickly running out of money, and presumably are in risk of losing their home. They can barely afford Milosh's son's singing lessons. Milosh's brother, Marko, is jealous of Milosh's family and lusts after his wife, but otherwise seems like an okay guy. One of Milosh's ex porn-buddies, lets call her Janka since I can't remember her name, tells Milosh she has a big "art" porn project for him that's gonna pay him heftily. Milosh is intitally hesistant. The porn director is this maniac ex-child-psychologist, Vukmir, who demands that Milosh be left in the dark about what the art-porn is gonna be about, so as to make it more like his vision.
Milosh agrees, though cautiously. We then see the first few days of the shoot. Basically Milosh is given an earpiece and Vukmir directs him through it. Two burly MEN in police-like uniforms film Milosh as he goes to a child orphanage and has hardcore sex with a BRUISED AND BLEEDING WOMAN while her DAUGHTER watches. Milosh is not into this and quits, but not before Vukmir goes on a spiele and shows him a tape of his lastest venture... newborn porn. Basically, it shows a woman giving birth to a newborn and then the guy fvcking it (not as explicit as you may imagine btw). Milosh freaks out and leaves but he passes out at a red light, because Vukmir's assistant, lets call her "hot doctor bitch," slipped him something like bull viagra in his drink.
When Milosh awakens he's in his home and he has no memory of what happened. His wife and child are missing. He then begins to retrace his steps and we learn through lengthy flashbacks what happened. This is what happened:
Milosh is dragged back to Vukmir's where some blonde woman, perhaps the same chick from earlier, is tied to a bed naked. The drugs have taken hold of Milosh and he is horny, animalistic, and out of control of his actions. Vukmir and his thug associates film all of the following. Horny as *beep* Milosh fvcks the *beep* out of her as Vukmir describes to him what a horrible woman he's fvcking. The blonde supposedly is the wife of a war hero who cheated on him and slept with tons of other men and ignored her own daughter's well-being. Vukmir tells Milosh to beat her. He does and (in what I consider the most graphic part) you begin to see bruises pop up as he beats the *beep* out of her while fvcking her. Vukmir then hands Milosh a knife and Milosh slices her head off. He continues to fvck the corpse.
Milosh also learns that Janka, the friend that set him up with Vukmir, argued with Vukmir that drugging Milosh is not the way to go about "this" (what "this" is will be explained later) and that she is taking Milosh with her and leaving. Vukmir responds by drugging her. She awakens chained naked in some room with all her teeth knocked out. A nude man wearing a bag over his head enters and fvcks her mouth until she chokes to death on his penis.
Milosh escapes but is recaptured by Vukmir's thugs. He is brought to some warehouse where hot doctor bitch injects him with more bull viagra, but Milosh retaliates and stabs her in the neck with her own needle. She passes out. He then wanders into some room where two naked bodies (still alive but drugged) are tied to the ground with their heads covered. They're laid out for him to fvck. Vukmir, all the thugs, and the naked guy with the mask are there filming it. Milosh immediately starts fvcking the bodies. First the one on the right, then the smaller one on the left. The guy with the mask joins in.
During the fvckfest, Vukmir takes off the guy with the mask's mask. It ends up being Marko. Vukmir then removes the masks from the bodies that both Marko and Milosh are fvcking. Marko is fvcking Milosh's wife. Milosh is fvcking.... (hold for it) his own son.
So the twist here is that Vukmir and his company of thugs make these "revenge fvck snuff films" where I presume people hire them to capture, beat, punish, rape, and eventually kill people who have wronged them. A mother-in-law hired Vukmir's company to do it to that blonde from earlier. Marko, I guess, hired Vukmir's company to do it for him, so he could fulfill the fantasy of fvcking Milosh's wife and tearing their family apart.
So back to the warehouse. The hot doctor bitch stumbles in and distracts everybody, just enough time for Milosh to grab Vukmir and beat his head into the floor until the guy dies. Milosh's wife then attacks Marko and bludgeons him to death with some stone slab. The thugs attack Milosh but he manages to wrestle a gun from them and shoot them all... except the meanest thug. He fights with the meanest thug and eventually pokes his eyes out. Then for some reason he sticks his erect penis into the guys eye socket and kills him that way. Milosh's wife, still drugged and frightened, tries to stab Milosh but he manages to knock her out and take her and his son to some house, locking them in a room.
The frame story comes full way and now Milosh knows what has happened. He goes and picks up his wife and child. The boy is in some sort of trance, totally incapable of saying anything or blinking much. The wife too is basically half dead. The family then cradles themselves into a bed and commit suicide via one gunshot through all of their hearts.
The bodies are discovered by Vukmir's right-hand-man, who was not at the warehouse at the time, and some of his thugs. They're video-taping the corpses. The right-hand-man tells one of his thugs, "Okay. Start with the little one." as the thug unbuckles his belt.
************END SPOILERS***************
The whole thing is this intentionally overly-graphic, absurd, grotesque, exploitation film that's supposed to be a microcosm about the Serbian people and how they are self-destructive. Something like that. Haven't had time to do an analytical reading.
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The movie doesn't need defending as such but I'm not sure what you mean by 'defend'. I tried to point out that it's not a braindead shockfest. To me, it's an excellent film and the best of 2010, so far. Only R and Black Death is close, from what I've seen.
You can't compare a quick off-the-top summary from an IMDB poster to actually seeing the movie either.
You can't compare a quick off-the-top summary from an IMDB poster to actually seeing the movie either.
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If you don't want to watch the movie but want to know what inspired it, watch this Q&A Spartan showed to me. You can't pass judgement on the movie from the summary, because the guy who wrote it only intended to spoil the graphic moments.
Part I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBDtEP8bJGE
Part II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_noYL0mzW4Q
Part I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBDtEP8bJGE
Part II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_noYL0mzW4Q
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Well that's why it's funny though, I haven't seen it and don't intend to, so the extremely reductive take by random IMDB poster that focuses only on the graphic stuff is absolutely hilarious when set against your lofty praiseComedy Quaddafi wrote:You can't compare a quick off-the-top summary from an IMDB poster to actually seeing the movie either.
Comedy Quaddafi wrote:In this fantastic flick, the gore itself is about 5-10%, the only reason that is more shocking, is the fact that the suspense and concept is crafted with the precision of a surgeon and the virtuosity of a maniac.
the internet wrote:Horny as *beep* Milosh fvcks the *beep* out of her as Vukmir describes to him what a horrible woman he's fvcking. The blonde supposedly is the wife of a war hero who cheated on him and slept with tons of other men and ignored her own daughter's well-being. Vukmir tells Milosh to beat her. He does and (in what I consider the most graphic part) you begin to see bruises pop up as he beats the *beep* out of her while fvcking her. Vukmir then hands Milosh a knife and Milosh slices her head off. He continues to fvck the corpse.
Milosh also learns that Janka, the friend that set him up with Vukmir, argued with Vukmir that drugging Milosh is not the way to go about "this" (what "this" is will be explained later) and that she is taking Milosh with her and leaving. Vukmir responds by drugging her. She awakens chained naked in some room with all her teeth knocked out. A nude man wearing a bag over his head enters and fvcks her mouth until she chokes to death on his penis.
Milosh escapes but is recaptured by Vukmir's thugs. He is brought to some warehouse where hot doctor bitch injects him with more bull viagra, but Milosh retaliates and stabs her in the neck with her own needle. She passes out. He then wanders into some room where two naked bodies (still alive but drugged) are tied to the ground with their heads covered. They're laid out for him to fvck. Vukmir, all the thugs, and the naked guy with the mask are there filming it. Milosh immediately starts fvcking the bodies. First the one on the right, then the smaller one on the left. The guy with the mask joins in.
During the fvckfest, Vukmir takes off the guy with the mask's mask. It ends up being Marko. Vukmir then removes the masks from the bodies that both Marko and Milosh are fvcking. Marko is fvcking Milosh's wife. Milosh is fvcking.... (hold for it) his own son.
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