CM Punk & Wrestling's Best Storyline in Years...
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too soon for punk to come back. way too soon.
really stupid having rey mysterio fight twice on the same night wtf is that, and for the title no less? if anything it brings cena down even more, essentially gifting him the new "championship".
i dont even know why mysterio won the title in the first place. miz shoulda won it. then cena could get his "rematch" that he'll never get from punk (who left) and fight miz at summerslam. all the while having more and more subtle cm punk jabs like his comicon thing.
but hey, what do i know.
miz and mysterio match was really good though. cena v. mysterio was ok but not as good imo.
really stupid having rey mysterio fight twice on the same night wtf is that, and for the title no less? if anything it brings cena down even more, essentially gifting him the new "championship".
i dont even know why mysterio won the title in the first place. miz shoulda won it. then cena could get his "rematch" that he'll never get from punk (who left) and fight miz at summerslam. all the while having more and more subtle cm punk jabs like his comicon thing.
but hey, what do i know.
miz and mysterio match was really good though. cena v. mysterio was ok but not as good imo.
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Why kill the angle by bringing him back so quick? Using Cult of Personality was awesome though.
Why kill the angle by bringing him back so quick? Using Cult of Personality was awesome though.
The Bill Simmons Podcast with Punk will be up tomorrow according to Simmons Twitter.
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Dave Lagana on the Punk's early wwe days...great read from a former member of creative
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That was a good read. HBK is someone I've never really been able to figure out. From a lot of stories, he's a douchebag and a total mark for himself. But it seems like he has a great feel for the business and maybe now in his semi-retired state he recognizes what's good for the future of the business.
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I'm with those who think it was too soon to bring Punk back. I get that they wanted to strike while the iron's hot, but they definitely could have gone a couple weeks with it.
Still, I don't think they've completely Nexus'd the angle yet. There's a lot of ways to explain him being "back" or even what "back" means. And yes, using Cult of Personality is a great touch.
Still, I don't think they've completely Nexus'd the angle yet. There's a lot of ways to explain him being "back" or even what "back" means. And yes, using Cult of Personality is a great touch.
It may have been a bit soon, but I think if the angle had been properly executed, the reaction might not have fallen flat. Cena didn't look angry or confused or even "Oh fuck, who is this?". He looked like he was experiencing mild bowel discomfort.
While I think it was a bit soon for my tastes, I think if they'd held off beyond Summerslam, people would lose interest. Those watching specifically for Punk's antics would tune out until he returned, myself included. They made the move that holds the ratings steady instead of waiting for the big blowoff.
I don't think Punk being "back" precludes him from crashing other events and further playing into what he called "The Reality Era" on the Simmons podcast. There are plenty of storyline ways for him to do whatever he wants and show up wherever he wants without consequence.
Also, I'm wondering how they're going to reintroduce Colt Cabana, and whether or not they'll tie the Kings of Wrestling into this particular angle.
While I think it was a bit soon for my tastes, I think if they'd held off beyond Summerslam, people would lose interest. Those watching specifically for Punk's antics would tune out until he returned, myself included. They made the move that holds the ratings steady instead of waiting for the big blowoff.
I don't think Punk being "back" precludes him from crashing other events and further playing into what he called "The Reality Era" on the Simmons podcast. There are plenty of storyline ways for him to do whatever he wants and show up wherever he wants without consequence.
Also, I'm wondering how they're going to reintroduce Colt Cabana, and whether or not they'll tie the Kings of Wrestling into this particular angle.
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They could have kept doing stuff like ComicCon and showed the footage on Raw (though I get how that would "cheapen" the story of Punk being unemployed).BigCat8 wrote:While I think it was a bit soon for my tastes, I think if they'd held off beyond Summerslam, people would lose interest. Those watching specifically for Punk's antics would tune out until he returned, myself included.
My boy said it would have been great if a Raw main event was CM Punk versus Doink the Clown for the WWE Title at some random high school gym.
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Unfortunately, they kinda put themselves in a corner week one by no longer acknowledging Punk. Crown a new champion, pretend Punk didn't exist. They didn't acknowledge his SDCC appearance on TV, nor his AAW appearance, nor his Twitter commments.Pizon wrote:They could have kept doing stuff like ComicCon and showed the footage on Raw (though I get how that would "cheapen" the story of Punk being unemployed).BigCat8 wrote:While I think it was a bit soon for my tastes, I think if they'd held off beyond Summerslam, people would lose interest. Those watching specifically for Punk's antics would tune out until he returned, myself included.
The other issue with that is viral videos still won't translate to ratings, because you don't need to tune into Raw to see those things. And if you do, it doesn't exactly follow the "reality era" theory- at least, not as I see it. The whole angle so far has been about bleeding over into other media. You can still do that AND get the ratings from his appearances with him back. Otherwise, people can follow the angle completely via Twitter and YouTube.
I like this take on it:
http://withleather.uproxx.com/2011/07/t ... -raw-725/8
Yeah, his NWA title run was cut criminally short. He's kinda made a niche for himself, though, with his podcast/comedy/media ventures. It's a shame he's never had a chance to be "the" guy.Galvatron78 wrote:Cabana should have been a star by now, dude is/was hilarious.BigCat8 wrote:Also, I'm wondering how they're going to reintroduce Colt Cabana
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Either 1)Vince has admitted that he's been wrong by being indifferent to the IWC or 2)He's letting someone else call the shots on this.mike eagle wrote:that was a great read.
its really interesting that vince is doing so much to appease the internet wrestling nerds that he has despised for so long.
Neither scenario seems likely, so yeah, this is kinda weird.