Girls

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:25 pm

best new show on TV?
the pacing is realistic but the characters & dialogue are awkward/delusional enough that it has a lot of genuine lol moments imo. i hangout w/ lots of girls in this age group (20-25) & find the personalities & dynamic between friends to be pretty spot on. all that said.. even as a dude it's easy to relate to that period of your early 20s where you feel you know everything but haven't quite yet realized you don't know shit

it's also a nice change from how to make it in america's portrayal of NYC

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:37 pm

Really funny from the pilot. Though I can't see myself quite putting it in "Appointment TV" territory. Its also topically skewed for the no penis-having crowd. Like I don't find humor in the debasement of a gynecological exam.

I'm not surprised you love it.

Lance Goodthrust · Post by **Lance Goodthrust** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:43 pm

I had to give up half way through the pilot. I just found everybody on the show so unlikable I couldn't take it. When the main character talked about writing her memoir but not having enough experiences yet I wanted to throw the remote through my TV. Such a hipster douche way to look at life as fodder for a future book project. And I have officially had enough of "comedies" that are not funny and have no jokes, laughs or intentions to entertain.

Maybe I just don't understand these people. You talk about that period in your life when you thought you knew everything. I never had that, and don't think most of the people I knew did either. My early 20's were confusing and frustrating not because I was mistaken about what I knew but rather because everything was in limbo. No good job and limited prospects. Didn't really know what I wanted or how to get it while trying to figure out how to live as an adult. If anything I was conscious of how little I knew and was scared because of it.

Truth. · Post by **Truth.** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:44 pm

i'm watching mainly for Brian Williams hot daughter

EMCEE DARTH MALEK · Post by **EMCEE DARTH MALEK** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:49 pm

that period of your early 20s where you feel you know everything but haven't quite yet realized you don't know shit

i must be in that period right now (no menstrual)

this show sounds pretty suspect but i will peep

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:50 pm

show seems destined to start as an attempt at honest satirical chronicle and end up as lifestyle porn ala sex in the city but for women 10 years younger. assuming it stays on long enough to make the transition, which it probably will.

The Rapping Coffin · Post by **The Rapping Coffin** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:03 pm

I hated the pilot more than any pilot I've seen in years.

re: lance- to be fair, her charatcer is supposed to be unlikable.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:09 pm

All I know is that it's the most racist show I've ever seen. WHERE ARE THE PUERTO RICANS?!?!?!?!?!?!

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:16 pm

Blockhead wrote:All I know is that it's the most racist show I've ever seen. WHERE ARE THE PUERTO RICANS?!?!?!?!?!?!

looks closely dawg, those brunch mimosas don't pour themselves

T Rav · Post by **T Rav** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:37 pm

ackbar wrote:best new show on TV?
the pacing is realistic but the characters & dialogue are awkward/delusional enough that it has a lot of genuine lol moments imo. i hangout w/ lots of girls in this age group (20-25) & find the personalities & dynamic between friends to be pretty spot on. all that said.. even as a dude it's easy to relate to that period of your early 20s where you feel you know everything but haven't quite yet realized you don't know shit

it's also a nice change from how to make it in america's portrayal of NYC

Can we get a thread called "Ackbar Reviews!"? It'll just be full of reviews of TV shows and movies by Ackbar. It's fuckin necessary.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:40 pm

Where is IthiKKKle when you need him?

Lance Goodthrust · Post by **Lance Goodthrust** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:44 pm

The Rapping Coffin wrote:I hated the pilot more than any pilot I've seen in years.

re: lance- to be fair, her charatcer is supposed to be unlikable.

Just her, or everybody who shows up in the pilot? I gave up on it so my opinion is def just a first reaction and to be taken with a grain of salt, but I literally disliked everyone with screen time.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:47 pm

That boyfriend dude radiates mad rape vibrations.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:48 pm

Lance Goodthrust wrote:
The Rapping Coffin wrote:I hated the pilot more than any pilot I've seen in years.

re: lance- to be fair, her charatcer is supposed to be unlikable.
Just her, or everybody who shows up in the pilot? I gave up on it so my opinion is def just a first reaction and to be taken with a grain of salt, but I literally disliked everyone with screen time.

well yeah...they're 23 year old entitled post-liberal arts college girls who live in brooklyn. Unless they're storing your penis, they're pretty much some of the worst people on earth. In that sense, the show has succeeded greatly.

The Rapping Coffin · Post by **The Rapping Coffin** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:58 pm

Blockhead wrote:
Lance Goodthrust wrote:
The Rapping Coffin wrote:I hated the pilot more than any pilot I've seen in years.

re: lance- to be fair, her charatcer is supposed to be unlikable.
Just her, or everybody who shows up in the pilot? I gave up on it so my opinion is def just a first reaction and to be taken with a grain of salt, but I literally disliked everyone with screen time.
well yeah...they're 23 year old entitled post-liberal arts college girls who live in brooklyn. Unless they're storing your penis, they're pretty much some of the worst people on earth. In that sense, the show has succeeded greatly.

yep. the show is supposed to do for these girls what larry david did for old neurotic jews. It's supposed to find the humor in these unlikable characters, and i thought the pilot failed at it.

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:13 pm

the 2nd & 3rd episode are funnier than the pilot imo (but i did like the pilot)
and if u didn't have the same streak as me in your 20s that's fine.. but throughout my teens & mid-20s i definitely acted like a cultural/intellectual elitist know-it-all (sans money AND education)

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:19 pm

Employee wrote:Its also topically skewed for the no penis-having crowd. Like I don't find humor in the debasement of a gynecological exam.

I'm not surprised you love it.

also not surprised others on this forum would't love it. i feel like some would be so turned off by the premise they wouldn't even give it a shot. even 'bored to death' some people thought was too cutesy or wimpy too enjoy iirc

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:19 pm

The Rapping Coffin wrote: the show is supposed to do for these girls what larry david did for old neurotic jews. It's supposed to find the humor in these unlikable characters, and i thought the pilot failed at it.

well, the creator of one is an experienced writer esponsible for the greatest sitcom of all time and the creator of the other is a fat girl who made a movie called tiny furniture. there's only so much you can expect from this situation

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:21 pm

i also heard bad things about the creator's movie 'tiny furniture'. did anyone see that? i wonder if it's something i would enjoy

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:22 pm

On a more serious note (kindA), it is interesting to see a show based around a woman who's a 4 at best. That's not something that's ever really tapped into. The life of a chubby, wack looking girl who thinks highly or herself ,while at the same time has the self esteem of a burn victim. Seeing how she gets dogged out by that dude is mad real, so i can appreciate that.
Whatever the case, there's gonna be a lot of Lena Dunham ass hoes trying to push their agenda (vagina) on drunk dudes everywhere because of this show.

The Rapping Coffin · Post by **The Rapping Coffin** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:26 pm

ackbar wrote:the 2nd & 3rd episode are funnier than the pilot imo (but i did like the pilot)
and if u didn't have the same streak as me in your 20s that's fine.. but throughout my teens & mid-20s i definitely acted like a cultural/intellectual elitist know-it-all (sans money AND education)

I did too! There is humor to be found in these archetypes, but I found the writing boring and acting terrible. Portlandia effectively mines humor in some of the same areas (albeit in a more silly, surreal manner)

There is a way to do a show like this well. I personally don't think the actors and Dunham were pulling it off. I'll watch a couple of more eps in case it gets better.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:27 pm

ackbar wrote: but throughout my teens & mid-20s i definitely acted like a cultural/intellectual elitist know-it-all (sans money AND education)

And your thirties are different how?

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:29 pm

Blockhead wrote:On a more serious note (kindA), it is interesting to see a show based around a woman who's a 4 at best. That's not something that's ever really tapped into. The life of a chubby, wack looking girl who thinks highly or herself ,while at the same time has the self esteem of a burn victim.

It could be done well, but that's not happening here.

There is simply nothing redeeming about the main character.

This has to be some bizarre Apatow projection of what he thinks his life would have been like if he were born with ovaries.

PopeyeJones · Post by **PopeyeJones** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:30 pm

It's well made and a more than decent entry in that sub-genre of masturbatory media (Ack is right and ep two is much better than ep one -- I haven't bothered to watch ep three and prolly won't).

All that said, cosmopolitan, upper-crust, post-college 20 somethings slowly whining their way to personal fulfillment and self-discovery (but never fully satisfactory self-realization -- it's why these "satires" ALWAYS fall short) is hard to connect with for me, just because the sheer amount of media (movies, shows, and mostly books) that trade in variations on the same material dulls all of it. My gripe isn't so much with the show itself as a standalone project, but with the fact that the folks who want to tell this story for the zillionth time (read: those who feel they are living it) have way too much access to folks who can say yes in media. I guess I'm basically just sick as fuck of the genre and its inward looking gaze. The "media for people like me, and my friends!" bullshit always overlooks how rarefied this self-discovery sojourn from responsibility actually is, and this shit -- like all the others -- never really does enough to acknowledge that. It ends up being frustrating and condescending because of its insularity, even when its trying not to be, or even when it's trying to wink about it.

It's a much better show than How To Make it In America, but infinitely worse. Might as well call it 4 Bens With Tits.

The Rapping Coffin · Post by **The Rapping Coffin** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:34 pm

Blockhead wrote:On a more serious note (kindA), it is interesting to see a show based around a woman who's a 4 at best. That's not something that's ever really tapped into. The life of a chubby, wack looking girl who thinks highly or herself ,while at the same time has the self esteem of a burn victim. Seeing how she gets dogged out by that dude is mad real, so i can appreciate that.
Whatever the case, there's gonna be a lot of Lena Dunham ass hoes trying to push their agenda (vagina) on drunk dudes everywhere because of this show.

Andvil called this show "gross people doing gross things"

PopeyeJones · Post by **PopeyeJones** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:35 pm

^^^^

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:42 pm

Employee wrote:
ackbar wrote: but throughout my teens & mid-20s i definitely acted like a cultural/intellectual elitist know-it-all (sans money AND education)
And your thirties are different how?

i'm still in my 20s. i am a lot more self-aware & conscious of how i act (and how i judge people especially). it takes an entire lifetime to actually be an effective good person

FAZER · Post by **FAZER** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:57 pm

ackbar wrote:i also heard bad things about the creator's movie 'tiny furniture'. did anyone see that? i wonder if it's something i would enjoy

If you like this show you will like Tiny Furniture. Girls is pretty much a television version of that film. Both Lena Dunham and the blonde British chick play the same characters, and its set in the same New York.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:44 pm

I love this show, yet I didn't like Tiny Furniture.

To me, this show is like Louie in how brutally honest and realistic it is.

Very happy to hear that it's already been renewed.

Lance Goodthrust · Post by **Lance Goodthrust** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:48 pm

Blockhead wrote:
Lance Goodthrust wrote:
The Rapping Coffin wrote:I hated the pilot more than any pilot I've seen in years.

re: lance- to be fair, her charatcer is supposed to be unlikable.
Just her, or everybody who shows up in the pilot? I gave up on it so my opinion is def just a first reaction and to be taken with a grain of salt, but I literally disliked everyone with screen time.
well yeah...they're 23 year old entitled post-liberal arts college girls who live in brooklyn. Unless they're storing your penis, they're pretty much some of the worst people on earth. In that sense, the show has succeeded greatly.

I am also adding in her parents and boss as people I did not want to spend any more time with. I mean 100% of the people, not just the ones I am supposed to dislike. Even the version of NYC we get is one I can't stomach much more of.

Good call on her lack of looks as part of this whole thing as well. Can't remember where I heard/read it but somebody brought up a good point that she is the director of the show and shoots herself horribly. She is never going to be a supermodel but the camera angles chosen, from what I have seen, accentuate her worst qualities. I'm sure we could all read into the politics of that kind of choice, but it is a pretty bold move.

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