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lolololol at 'using math' like you're sitting there crunching numbers.... you got butthurt at an opinion about something you haven't seen yet because it doesn't match up to something you googled
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Lol I’m not the one ignoring certified fresh numbers defending my internet buddy. Keep playing it cool tho lolololol

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certified fresh, my god ... go wash your hot topic bazinga tshirt
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Give it a rest, dude. You’re taking shit far too personally like your old buddy Cleanhobo.

I didn’t like a movie you’re obviously going to love, because its overall rating is positive. My fave critic liked it. Oh well. Will undoubtedly chime in greater detail once other posters feel the need to discuss spoilers in this thread, but I’ve moved on; so should you.

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guys, guys. let's leave the warring to the stars. tbh i think everyone here is emotionally prepared for this movie to suck.
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in general i liked it.
compared to other movies it gets a half thumb up for me
compared to every other star wars post og trilogy; its up there with rogue one as best

some of the writing? garbage. some of that dialogue is like straight up horrific. some of the choices are fucking terrible some are really clever and work well. the story? you know its actually pretty sweet. whos cool with who whos pitted against who whos intriguing why etc.
-leah as lazarus space witch: this decision tree is entirely unjustifiable. except the movie-pacing of how the imperial-rebels conflict unfolds works REALLY well imo (except the gambler mission see below)
-the gamblers paradise mission? fucking retarded from inception to completion
-benicio? hilariously makes EVERY OTHER ACTOR hes on screen with look flat retarded and dominates his role as usual
-and then of course they treat space like it was floaty-air. dropping space bombs. space ships running out of fuel and then pulling up like they cant go anywhere. im just saying from big choices to little choices movie has massive issues
-and of course anything involving the finn character. as he is easily the dumbest part of the entire franchise sans jar jar binx. and guess what hes going to sacrifice himself and save everyone all sorts of hassle but the azn chick strolls out of nowhere to FUCK UP his sacrifice because 'thats not how were going to win'. i mean. im pretty sure thats how youre gonna at least survive
are there other bad decisions? god yes in multiples but were just going to have to deal with the fact that shits disneyfied. thats just the reality of where we are. and theyve laid some poor foundation from the past one(s) like rays stuff especially is so weak for what it is and what they could have done. but again. lets just accept it because: thats where we are right now.

some good decisions include
-making it funny. having luke be a funny crotchety old dude i thought made a lot of sense all things considering and for the tone of the movie really helps to lay some narrative foundation without just like sticking shit in there like they usually do which really helps to improve the feel and continuity and world building and is one of the biggest problems with post og star wars. it gives us time AND sort of implicitly says 'this is not really a serious movie' which really really really was a good choice. it makes things so much more easy to swallow when they are presenting it as some emotionally medium shit. an excellent choice
-benicio. put some real good acting in there. anywhere. and its an actually interesting role. its almost too good to be true but it was really necessary. also good acting was the admiral chick. shes a good actor. shes does well. she even sparks some chemistry with the pilot dude.
-the chick and darth dude are frenemies. as hodge podge as some of this execution was it really does help establish some groundwork for the future as well as make things interesting.
-the imperial dudes are actually like imperial dudes for the most part except all the over-wrought whining shit but thats fairly minimum compared to the previous ones
-for every strange luke decision there is a really good luke decision. i dont know if its a 1:1 ratio but its pretty good which is great because his shit is a huge part of the foundation of this movie. which is another good point; they actually MADE lukes story and his shit part of the foundation of the movie and buttresses the journey of darth dude and jedi chick

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There was stuff i liked and stuff i hated. I'll probably watch again.
Liked:
Opening scenes
Luke vs. Ren version of events playout
Rey and Ren kick red priest ass in the throne room
Actually most scenes between Rey and Ren were pretty good
Laura Dern kamikaze shit = :ohsh:
Snoke lighting Ren's feet up when he got lippy

Hated:
The shitty gag humor that infected EVERY FUCKING SCENE. I understand this is how big budget movies are written these days but god fucking damn could we have one moment of sincerity. Like the Harry Potter movies had more gravitas than this.
Even the sincere moments came across as parody. Leia supermanning back on the ship = LOLWAT
Snoke's death. So fucking poorly executed.
The Rose character = snore. That whole storyline and mission was wank.
Space Casino = wank
Space greyhounds = wank
And her stopping Finn at the end to give some shit speech was extra wank with wank on top.
I didn't actually mind that last shot of the kid with jedi potential looking up at the stars but it could have been soooo much better executed.
Luke milking cows = fuck off

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can we talk about Yoda tho?

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Felt closer to Space Balls than Star Wars. Easily the worst Star Wars movie. I’m gonna go see it again this week to make sure I wasn’t just shocked by the horrible and pretty much insane choices made. Holy shit.

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alpha wrote:Second time.

Easy to see our opinions are quite opposite. But Ffs it’s 94% fresh on rotten tomatoes.
Force Awakens got 93% and it was gash.

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Philaflava wrote:
can we talk about Yoda tho?
Kinda sweet kinda weak. Very wise stuff though in terms of where the lore is going in the following movies. Also. I didn't like the look. The appearance was too polished to me. And I thought the scene could've played better. But in our Disney heavy context it works fine

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As much as I consider myself a hardcore Star Wars nerd, the backlash has been fucking hilarious.

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I wonder if I would have liked the original movies if I watched them for the first time as an adult without nastalgia blinders. I do think the new movies were badly written and the dialogue is terrible. Everything is quite predictable. The worst part of the movie is when Finn called phasma Chrome Dome. That bothered me more than it should have to be honest. And kylo ren is still a horrible villain throwing childish hissy-fits.

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blastmaster wrote:Felt closer to Willow than Star Wars.
The combo of fairly dark content juxtaposed with near-slapstick comedy felt very 80s fantasy. The fish nuns even looked like something from Labyrinth or Terry Gilliam, and the adorable street urchins fit right in with that. I didn't hate it but it's definitely a departure from the established tone of Star Wars and I understand why people are having such a knee jerk rejection of it.

I actually liked a lot of what they were trying to do here and had a great time watching this off my head on edibles, but there are so many dumb things about the script, both in terms of the choices the characters make and the plotting/structure of the movie overall, that it's hard to focus on the good. Rogue One was a better effort at doing something different with the series imo.
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liked
rey & kylo's snapchat sessions, esp the shirtless one

poe dameron's swashbuckling bravado

kylo's slick move on snoke. v clever. first jedi to use remote force button push. game changer imo.

luke being a whiny bitch (always was)
disliked
nothing specific but yeah the movie was pretty dumb
about an hour too long also. didn't need the casino subplot or the extra battle on new hoth.
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It's been a couple of weeks, no real point using spoiler tags anymore.

Everyone who wanted to see this movie has already done so. Talk about shirtless Kylo, Carrie Poppins and frog nuns with no fear.

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360 wrote:The worst part of the movie is when Finn called phasma Chrome Dome.
yes that was annoying. also when finn is being chased in space casablanca jail and exclaims: "Oh no, the cops!" :roll:

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CarlosDelgothoes wrote:Laura Dern kamikaze shit = :ohsh:
this part alone was a fuckin' moment. i cannot recall the last time i made an :ohsh: face at a movie theater.

this was a fun moviegoing experience, but a clean star wars plotline it is not. would love to see how they come back from this one. in the meantime, this is one of those movies that needs a second viewing to formulate a better opinion.

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Spartan wrote:It's been a couple of weeks, no real point using spoiler tags anymore.

Everyone who wanted to see this movie has already done so. Talk about shirtless Kylo, Carrie Poppins and frog nuns with no fear.
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i liked finn a lot in the force awakens. humanizing a stormtrooper is a pretty bold idea. but there was totally nothing for him to do in this movie. all his scenes & plotline should be cut. man i was hoping for him to get it in with poe dameron, not that chubby azn.
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man when you consider obi wan's career vs luke it's pretty embarrassing. think of all the crazy shit obi wan did, what'd luke do? lost to darth vader, lost to the emperor, then fucked up the jedi academy (& lost to kylo ren) & ran away & cried. what a fucking punk.

i heard they might bring back ewan tho..
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EMCEE DARTH MALEK wrote:man when you consider obi wan's career vs luke it's pretty embarrassing. think of all the crazy shit obi wan did, what'd luke do? lost to darth vader, lost to the emperor, then fucked up the jedi academy (& lost to kylo ren) & ran away & cried. what a fucking punk.
Swisdom right here
He's a pretty poor choice of jedi. Not mentally tough. Not of great character. But at the same time one could argue that obi wons choice of passing the skills to Luke was pretty ad hoc. Like oh shit I'm an old hermit who is so powerful I can talk in space even though I'm dead and I haven't passed my skills on to anyone. It's pretty shotgun that he wants to pass skills on to this dude basically just because he likes dudes dad. Talk about baby boomer mentality right there. Also Yoda though. Same kind of deal. He hangs out in a swamp. Luke comes along. He did obi a favor but doesn't really pass on the wisdom just the skills. So much of what he says is like 'just do what I say' or 'this is how it is' like jesus can we get some socratic method or something.

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yo, this was as boring as a movie can be, b.
never been a fan of star wars but was kind of looking forward to this one,
shit was bland
and corny
and way too fucking long
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Once the dust settles, it wouldn't surprise me if Lucasfilm give Rian Johnson the boot or at least restrict his creative input on his announced SW trilogy.

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Tom Hardy's deleted scene:


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Awful movie. Predictable, corny, lazy. Kamikaze part was the only memorable part.

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^shit's hilarious, maybe more entertaining than the film itself.
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just came in here to laugh at the rotten tomatoes defense

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