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HOLY SHIT Deb P!!
Good looks on that Young Zee CD/cassette remaster. Just copped the tape from Fat Beats.
Good looks on that Young Zee CD/cassette remaster. Just copped the tape from Fat Beats.
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nothin much to report...mr voo demos...bla bla bla
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Them NE cats need to be slapped for not preserving their dats. Also the early 90ies Voo stuff where he supposedly flips crazy flows. JUST SAD...
What else is on them 2 tapes?
I won't cop music that came from a dub tape source.
Peace to the OG that leaked the whole ep minus the rmx years ago.
What else is on them 2 tapes?
I won't cop music that came from a dub tape source.
Peace to the OG that leaked the whole ep minus the rmx years ago.
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This release is the culmination of many years of flava-hunting. Herring has been looking for these tracks in best quality for over 5 years and several months ago a good Herring customer alerted us to a post on the excellent DWG forum. Someone was selling two cassettes he copped from a Natural Elements show in the late 90's. The tapes contained demos, rare freestyles and unreleased NE joints dubbed from the [now lost] original sources [not radio versions]. Among the demos were the elusive, early Mr Voodoo tracks included on this release. The seller and owner of the tapes [who wishes to remain anonymous] said this, of these NY Underground Hip Hop artifacts:
"In 1999 or 2000 (I cannot remember which exactly) I went to see Natural Elements in Denmark. At the time, they had made a name for themselves from the Lyricist Lounge as well as their Tommy Boy 12” singles. Usually during shows like these back in those days, the artists would sell t-shirts and tapes. Primarily this would be an independent artist's side business. Natural Elements would sell these two tapes, “Exclusives Vol. 1” and “Exclusives Vol. 2”. Both containing rare freestyles, radio promos, features and demos, many of which are still unreleased today.
I’ve kept these tapes in a shoebox for many years, and one day I came to think about them. I didn’t know if anyone would be interested, but I decided to post them for sale on DWG. One thing led to another, and Chopped Herring contacted me and wanted to check the tapes out to see if there were any demos that could be released. As Chopped Herring already had a relationshop with the guys in Natural Elements, it was only "natural" for the label to [attempt] to release some of these gems...."
The tapes were couriered across Europe to be transferred using a high end Nakamichi tape deck. Following transfer, the chosen tracks were mastered to a very high standard by Herring's regular sound engineer and are now available on wax for the very first time. The original masters were lost many years ago....
These cassettes very rarely come up for sale/auction - but now, following the release of this project, we will be making both these ORIGINAL tapes available to PURCHASE - hit us up with your bid amount and in a few weeks, we will sell them [on behalf of our anonymous and most generous benefactor]...
That's the story of the tapes....
Now let's hear from the man, Mr Voodoo himself:
Where did you come up man?
I was born and raised in Brooklyn. Bed Stuy and Fort Greene.
What are your some of your early memories of Hip Hop culture in NYC?
NYC was ill. I remembered when Sugarhill Gang came out vividly. But the most impactful stuff for me was them Coldcrush Brother tapes man. Me and my lil homies would just sit and stare at the boom box in awe listening to these dudes. Then it was the movies like Wildstyle and Beat Street. NYC had all these little mom and pop record shops like Music Factory, Beat Street, Soul Shack where if you was lucky you would run into one of your idols, mc's or dj's while you were copping records. The block parties was scarey as hell because you never knew what could pop off but it was also fun as hell. NYC had culture, character, flavor. Now it's so generic and watered down its sad.
When did you first start writing rhymes?
I started as a youngster in my teens around 13 yrs. just playing around. I was heavily influenced by Kool Moe Dee and the Treacherous Three. I was especially keen on T La Rock. I wanna also take the time to explain how important Slick Rick was in the early 80's. Man that dude had a tape circulating before La Di Do Di with the whole routine he use to do with Dougie and that influence a lot of dudes at that time. You can hear traces of that in G.L.O.C.K too.
Set the scene for the material on the "Elusive Demos" project on Chopped Herring:
One of the things about these songs is that they are like a capsule of a moment or a zone I was in. See at the time I was just given the Source Magazine Hip Hop Quotable Lyrics of the Month. So it was my intent to prove that I was the baddest lil dude outta BK rapping. Sorta like maintaining the standard I set. Me and Char use to meet up at our man Vidal's home studio. It would be like the whole click there. And he would eek out beats for every single one of the mc's there. Most of the songs came about that way. Funny thing about G.L.O.C.K was we used this Space Ghost snippet from the Cartoon Network and he constructed the whole beat around it. I was heavily influenced by old school artists like T La Rock, Cold Crush, Fantastic Five, Treacherous Three. Not to mention Kane, KRS One, Kool G Rap as well as underground dudes like Divine Force and Lord Shafyq. What I tried to do was roll all those influences up into one package and keep it all in context with what I was seeing as a kid growing up in Bed Stuy and Fort Greene. "NY Straight Talk" is my theme song. It basically was built around me growing up in NYC early eighties talking about the culture in the city at that time and draws parallels to the present.
How did you originally meet Char?
I met Char thru a mutual friend. Dude named Dante. You may have heard him on some stuff like the Knick Knack Patty Wack remake we did. I met him in school and we use to kick rhymes to each other and he told me to come uptown to the BX. That's when I met Char and he was like dumbfounded cause he never heard no one rhyming like I did. From there I started recording with him every week. That was a blessing cause it kept me out of trouble. My first time recording ever was with Char in the winter of '90 I believe, after our initial meeting the week before. It was a song called "Voodoo" which later morphed to "Running From My Magic".
Where are those recordings?
Uhh the early recordings are lost. I had them on tapes a long time ago. They were unique. I had this style which was a cross between like Brother J and like with vocabulary like T La Rock and just way out there. The real early stuff would be like close to G.L.O.C.K. I used to experiment with crazy styles. Vocal inflections triple entendres stop and start. Similar to what you hear on G.L.O.C.K.
How did you meet the other NE cats?:
L was a little kid then. He use to always come thru and just peep us older dudes. See L had a birdseye view of all the growth and development I went through as an artist, so our relationship is special. But he was like our little homie and he just out of nowhere started spitting and it was crazy because he was so young and had such a flow.
And KA?
KA was a wild dude I knew from school also. We weren't really cool until one day he had approached me and was like he never knew that I was rhyming like that. I had begun to make a name for myself being on the radio and stuff. So he told me he rhymed too. We started kicking it and that's where the friendship began. I brought him to Char and that's all she wrote. I always believed in him so everywhere I went I took him with me. On stage and everything.
You are known for your 90's freestyles on various NY radio shows, how did you get yourself on the radio back in the day?
I was lucky enough to have a mentor. He knew I was a rapper and hooked me up with the program director of WBAI. He hooked me up with J Smooth of the Underground Railroad and that was where I started. I played it cool didn't really let them know I rhymed. Then one day they were just playing around free styling and I kicked something and their eyes widened like yo wtf from then on I was known as the poet laureate and whenever they had guests come through they would line me up to freestyle with them. I met a lot of artists that way and also it gave me exposure. That was around '92 or '93 maybe.
Some artists are embarrassed of their early works - sounds like you are still proud of them - is that the case?
I'm actually proud of my early works simply because it represents a time of purity. Just that unadulterated unfiltered youthful rawness. I'm so happy the world will get a chance to see how visionary my stuff was. I was saying things they only now beginning to comprehend. So hats off to you my dude.
"In 1999 or 2000 (I cannot remember which exactly) I went to see Natural Elements in Denmark. At the time, they had made a name for themselves from the Lyricist Lounge as well as their Tommy Boy 12” singles. Usually during shows like these back in those days, the artists would sell t-shirts and tapes. Primarily this would be an independent artist's side business. Natural Elements would sell these two tapes, “Exclusives Vol. 1” and “Exclusives Vol. 2”. Both containing rare freestyles, radio promos, features and demos, many of which are still unreleased today.
I’ve kept these tapes in a shoebox for many years, and one day I came to think about them. I didn’t know if anyone would be interested, but I decided to post them for sale on DWG. One thing led to another, and Chopped Herring contacted me and wanted to check the tapes out to see if there were any demos that could be released. As Chopped Herring already had a relationshop with the guys in Natural Elements, it was only "natural" for the label to [attempt] to release some of these gems...."
The tapes were couriered across Europe to be transferred using a high end Nakamichi tape deck. Following transfer, the chosen tracks were mastered to a very high standard by Herring's regular sound engineer and are now available on wax for the very first time. The original masters were lost many years ago....
These cassettes very rarely come up for sale/auction - but now, following the release of this project, we will be making both these ORIGINAL tapes available to PURCHASE - hit us up with your bid amount and in a few weeks, we will sell them [on behalf of our anonymous and most generous benefactor]...
That's the story of the tapes....
Now let's hear from the man, Mr Voodoo himself:
Where did you come up man?
I was born and raised in Brooklyn. Bed Stuy and Fort Greene.
What are your some of your early memories of Hip Hop culture in NYC?
NYC was ill. I remembered when Sugarhill Gang came out vividly. But the most impactful stuff for me was them Coldcrush Brother tapes man. Me and my lil homies would just sit and stare at the boom box in awe listening to these dudes. Then it was the movies like Wildstyle and Beat Street. NYC had all these little mom and pop record shops like Music Factory, Beat Street, Soul Shack where if you was lucky you would run into one of your idols, mc's or dj's while you were copping records. The block parties was scarey as hell because you never knew what could pop off but it was also fun as hell. NYC had culture, character, flavor. Now it's so generic and watered down its sad.
When did you first start writing rhymes?
I started as a youngster in my teens around 13 yrs. just playing around. I was heavily influenced by Kool Moe Dee and the Treacherous Three. I was especially keen on T La Rock. I wanna also take the time to explain how important Slick Rick was in the early 80's. Man that dude had a tape circulating before La Di Do Di with the whole routine he use to do with Dougie and that influence a lot of dudes at that time. You can hear traces of that in G.L.O.C.K too.
Set the scene for the material on the "Elusive Demos" project on Chopped Herring:
One of the things about these songs is that they are like a capsule of a moment or a zone I was in. See at the time I was just given the Source Magazine Hip Hop Quotable Lyrics of the Month. So it was my intent to prove that I was the baddest lil dude outta BK rapping. Sorta like maintaining the standard I set. Me and Char use to meet up at our man Vidal's home studio. It would be like the whole click there. And he would eek out beats for every single one of the mc's there. Most of the songs came about that way. Funny thing about G.L.O.C.K was we used this Space Ghost snippet from the Cartoon Network and he constructed the whole beat around it. I was heavily influenced by old school artists like T La Rock, Cold Crush, Fantastic Five, Treacherous Three. Not to mention Kane, KRS One, Kool G Rap as well as underground dudes like Divine Force and Lord Shafyq. What I tried to do was roll all those influences up into one package and keep it all in context with what I was seeing as a kid growing up in Bed Stuy and Fort Greene. "NY Straight Talk" is my theme song. It basically was built around me growing up in NYC early eighties talking about the culture in the city at that time and draws parallels to the present.
How did you originally meet Char?
I met Char thru a mutual friend. Dude named Dante. You may have heard him on some stuff like the Knick Knack Patty Wack remake we did. I met him in school and we use to kick rhymes to each other and he told me to come uptown to the BX. That's when I met Char and he was like dumbfounded cause he never heard no one rhyming like I did. From there I started recording with him every week. That was a blessing cause it kept me out of trouble. My first time recording ever was with Char in the winter of '90 I believe, after our initial meeting the week before. It was a song called "Voodoo" which later morphed to "Running From My Magic".
Where are those recordings?
Uhh the early recordings are lost. I had them on tapes a long time ago. They were unique. I had this style which was a cross between like Brother J and like with vocabulary like T La Rock and just way out there. The real early stuff would be like close to G.L.O.C.K. I used to experiment with crazy styles. Vocal inflections triple entendres stop and start. Similar to what you hear on G.L.O.C.K.
How did you meet the other NE cats?:
L was a little kid then. He use to always come thru and just peep us older dudes. See L had a birdseye view of all the growth and development I went through as an artist, so our relationship is special. But he was like our little homie and he just out of nowhere started spitting and it was crazy because he was so young and had such a flow.
And KA?
KA was a wild dude I knew from school also. We weren't really cool until one day he had approached me and was like he never knew that I was rhyming like that. I had begun to make a name for myself being on the radio and stuff. So he told me he rhymed too. We started kicking it and that's where the friendship began. I brought him to Char and that's all she wrote. I always believed in him so everywhere I went I took him with me. On stage and everything.
You are known for your 90's freestyles on various NY radio shows, how did you get yourself on the radio back in the day?
I was lucky enough to have a mentor. He knew I was a rapper and hooked me up with the program director of WBAI. He hooked me up with J Smooth of the Underground Railroad and that was where I started. I played it cool didn't really let them know I rhymed. Then one day they were just playing around free styling and I kicked something and their eyes widened like yo wtf from then on I was known as the poet laureate and whenever they had guests come through they would line me up to freestyle with them. I met a lot of artists that way and also it gave me exposure. That was around '92 or '93 maybe.
Some artists are embarrassed of their early works - sounds like you are still proud of them - is that the case?
I'm actually proud of my early works simply because it represents a time of purity. Just that unadulterated unfiltered youthful rawness. I'm so happy the world will get a chance to see how visionary my stuff was. I was saying things they only now beginning to comprehend. So hats off to you my dude.
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Dungeon Lordz: 93 Jersey shit, unreleased tony D production:
http://heavyjewelz.bigcartel.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
snippets:
https://soundcloud.com/heavyjewelz/dungeon-lordz-demo-ep-snippets-by-chris-cutter
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snippets:
https://soundcloud.com/heavyjewelz/dungeon-lordz-demo-ep-snippets-by-chris-cutter
www.thetroyblog.com
http://heavyjewelz.bigcartel.com/
http://heavyjewelz.bigcartel.com/
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Good shit man. Bout time! hahaVerge wrote:Dungeon Lordz: 93 Jersey shit, unreleased tony D production:
http://heavyjewelz.bigcartel.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So what's this new GRR release that's droppin within the next week or so? Somethin old from the vaults or some new shit??
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Yeah this one's a banger. Record store day this year backed most of the smaller labels up in the US, at least the plant i use.WiCkEd22 wrote:Good shit man. Bout time! hahaVerge wrote:Dungeon Lordz: 93 Jersey shit, unreleased tony D production:
http://heavyjewelz.bigcartel.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So what's this new GRR release that's droppin within the next week or so? Somethin old from the vaults or some new shit??
I'll let Henry answer that, not sure if he wants to keep it under wraps until he announces it.
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A couple new releases on GRR - orders will be shipped out by end of August (combined shipping with Heavy Jewelz is also available). Thanks as always.
https://soundcloud.com/debonair-p/sleestackz-behind-the-iron-curtain-vinyl-snippets
https://soundcloud.com/debonair-p/debonair-p-instrumentals-2-snippets
https://soundcloud.com/debonair-p/sleestackz-behind-the-iron-curtain-vinyl-snippets
https://soundcloud.com/debonair-p/debonair-p-instrumentals-2-snippets
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Yo Verge ! It would be possible to add "Dungeon Lordz" on Bandcamp please !? Thanks in advance
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http://fifthelementonline.com/products/ ... -1992-1998" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This CD available exclusively at Fifth Element! abstruse
Shadowz tracks! this man must sit on albums...
This CD available exclusively at Fifth Element! abstruse
Shadowz tracks! this man must sit on albums...
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MOTHERFUCKER!!!!
Time to change my boxers...
Time to change my boxers...
Stieflkater wrote:http://fifthelementonline.com/products/ ... -1992-1998
This CD available exclusively at Fifth Element! abstruse
Shadowz tracks! this man must sit on albums...
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Shits available on UGHH too
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Written by greg branch in the comments.Hos back on the map,I was one of his first producers when he started in high school. I tried to get Marley and havoc to put him on back in the day and of coarse was overlooked. I got demos for days that we did together with his dj darth fader r.i.p.
Maybe, that might be worth a look. Especially if the rapstyle is the same it would make Biggie null and void.
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A couple new releases on GRR - all vinyl is already pressed and will ship in January. Order here: http://grrvinyl.bigcartel.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
OC & Debonair P: Dive In EP
https://soundcloud.com/debonair-p/oc-ditc-debonair-p-dive-in-ep-vinyldigital-snippets
Mental Dimension: MD's... On The Come In (1996) 2LP
https://soundcloud.com/debonair-p/mental-dimension-mds-on-the-come-in-2lp-vinyl-digital-snippets?in=debonair-p/sets/gentlemans-relief-records-90s
Digital versions for these 2 releases are also available:
OC: https://debonair-p.bandcamp.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mental Dimension: https://mentaldimension.bandcamp.com/releases" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As always, thanks!
OC & Debonair P: Dive In EP
https://soundcloud.com/debonair-p/oc-ditc-debonair-p-dive-in-ep-vinyldigital-snippets
Mental Dimension: MD's... On The Come In (1996) 2LP
https://soundcloud.com/debonair-p/mental-dimension-mds-on-the-come-in-2lp-vinyl-digital-snippets?in=debonair-p/sets/gentlemans-relief-records-90s
Digital versions for these 2 releases are also available:
OC: https://debonair-p.bandcamp.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mental Dimension: https://mentaldimension.bandcamp.com/releases" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As always, thanks!
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Congrats on the EP with O.C.. Finally some new O over good beats.
If you do an album with him, you need to record together and you might need to get up with experts in mixing and mastering. The vocals are not perfect quality in my humble opinion. I'm no engineer, but something is not perfectly right.
"Foolish" +3:11 noise "God Praise" +3:03 "Grand Stand" sounds a bit muddy "verbal awareness over snares and kickdrums" +0:59 noise +2:36 jump "ceiling" overdrives "357 ways" same with 7 "selves" Observations I made on first listen.
Dope beats, lyrics and flow regardless - this has potential and is your best project yet! This to me ranks as his 3rd best project with Bon Appetit and Starchild. Dope cuts man...
"nowadays criminals snitch on themselves
and wonder why they end up behind bars
well let me tell you why simple and plain
they just dumb
when you pop a dude toss away that smoking gun
vamoose the scene of the crime then
go home and burn your clothes
and toss away them precious Jordans TOAST" hahaha didn't break the bars down in correct format
If you do an album with him, you need to record together and you might need to get up with experts in mixing and mastering. The vocals are not perfect quality in my humble opinion. I'm no engineer, but something is not perfectly right.
"Foolish" +3:11 noise "God Praise" +3:03 "Grand Stand" sounds a bit muddy "verbal awareness over snares and kickdrums" +0:59 noise +2:36 jump "ceiling" overdrives "357 ways" same with 7 "selves" Observations I made on first listen.
Dope beats, lyrics and flow regardless - this has potential and is your best project yet! This to me ranks as his 3rd best project with Bon Appetit and Starchild. Dope cuts man...
"nowadays criminals snitch on themselves
and wonder why they end up behind bars
well let me tell you why simple and plain
they just dumb
when you pop a dude toss away that smoking gun
vamoose the scene of the crime then
go home and burn your clothes
and toss away them precious Jordans TOAST" hahaha didn't break the bars down in correct format
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YO, CH man did you make the DJ Clark Kent connect via Daddy-O for the Jaz, Jigga, Sauce material already?
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That OC shit is tiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
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