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i hope this actually happens bro... imagine a real, dark tarantino manson family flick... with a unique tarantino spin on it... this shit would be too ill

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He also has proven to be able to create strong and memorable female roles, from the title character in Jackie Brown to the Bride in Kill Bill to the female characters on display in Death Proof.

Tate could be the latest to join that list.


Wow!


On the one hand, I'm relieved it's not the Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! remake or Kill Bill Vol. 3, but then again, I was hoping for Tarantino to branch out and try something fresh like a sci-fi movie. A Manson family flick is more in line with something Rob Zombie would do (arguably, he already did it) and it's a subject that has been covered to death over the years.


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Eh I think it's been a while and I also feel while it's not a sci fi flick of course it's definitely a different direction for him... Would love to see what he does with this... I wish it was Tim Burton lol to be real but I am curious with what he is getting at here...

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I think this can only work if he uses the true story for pulp fodder, would probably be a disaster if he tries to really engage with the subject. Tarrantino's m.o. only works when he can create an ironic distance from what he's actually portraying. He lives in that space of remove, and that's what ultimately lets him get away with some of the shit he pulls - he turns it into a cartoon. Not really sure what will happen when he's forced to confront grisly reality instead of just using it as a background/foundation for his stylistic quirks. I don't think that will work, he's not capable of sustained earnest drama. Granted, it seems shitty to turn one of the most notorious crimes in modern history into fodder for quirky characters dropping snappy one-liners over cool music cues, but that's what he did for holocaust and slavery so :kanyeshrug:

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if you didn't like those movies you are insane though... he's pretty much never missed the mark man...

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I like his movies just fine, his shtick works. That's my whole point, if he sticks with it he'll be fine. But if he tries to approach the subject more seriously, which the circumstances might call for, he'll probably wipe out.

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Would put a decent amount of money on this never happening.


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I actually agree with you Tommy... I have a reasonable level of doubt as well... I don't want to even get my hopes up because this is exactly what I want to see him doing...

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Fuck this i want more historical injustice power fantasy! How about ghandi murders the king of england

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I would be quite excited to see this.

Are any of the Manson films any good btw? Or documentaries? I don't know too much about what happened but I'm not sure I'm interested enough to read a book about it, which would prob be the right choice.

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I was thinking the same myself actually... I know enough about the case and have watched a few documentaries years ago but I think it's been a pretty good long time since a proper Manson special/movie... Everything is like Lifetime shit...

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This had my curiosity, but now has my attention:

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Leo was a bit much in Django, which was over the top already. But that lnews is great. Can we get Tom Cruise and Leo together in a Tarantino film? I’m all in.


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Leo was godlike in Django

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Well of course you enjoy over the top homo performances


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alpha wrote:
Well of course you enjoy over the top homo performances



yet you want Tom Cruise to star in one


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Duh, TC was made for this role.


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Who's playing Manson then, TC or DiCaprio?

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i like tom cruise probably more than most, but who thinks he has the range to play charles manson?

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^ I think it would work. TC actually looks a bit like Manson. Short, darkish, handsome cheekbones and hes even legit crazy as well. Will feel right at home in the cult environment.

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LOL. when you put it like that. here's hoping for the performance of his life: QT channels tom's long pending nervous breakdown into quality screentime.

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After hearing Tarantino on Stern literally making an argument for why it was okay for Polanski to sodomize a thirteen-year-old girl until she bled from her anus, I'll never watch another one of his films.

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Audio Resurfaces of Quentin Tarantino Defending Roman Polanski, Calling 13-Year-Old Victim “Down With It”

The initial YouTube video of the interview been pulled due to a copyright claim by Sirius XM, but below, you’ll find a partial transcription of the conversation between Tarantino, Stern, and Robin Quivers on The Howard Stern Show on Nov. 19, 2003. ...

Howard Stern: You gotta explain this, I’ve been dying to get a hold of you for this reason. Gary Garver, our reporter out in Hollywood, interviewed you. Here’s what you said. I’ve gotta ask you about this. This I don’t understand. Your movie, I understand. This I don’t. You ready?

Quentin Tarantino: Yeah.

HS: Here we go.

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Gary Garver: Hey, Quentin, how you doing, man?

QT: Hey.

GG: How’s it going, man?

QT: Pretty good.

GG: Nice to meet you. What’ve you done to make the world a better place?

QT: I don’t know! What do you think I’ve done?

GG: Cool movies.

QT: Oh. I’ll stand with that.

GG: Pulp Fiction’s awesome.

QT: Yeah!

GG: Were you happy when Roman Polanski won the Oscar?

QT: Yeah, that was pretty cool, actually, yeah.

GG: What’s so great about a rapist being the recipient of Hollywood’s highest honor?

QT: I don’t … I don’t consider him a rapist.

[end clip]

HS: All right. That’s … How could you defend … See, I don’t understand this. How come Hollywood embraces this madman, this director who raped a 13-year-old?

QT: He didn’t rape a 13-year-old, it was statutory rape, all right?

HS: Yeah, all right—

Robin Quivers: Well—

QT: That’s not quite the same thing, all right?

RQ: Come on!

HS: Enough said!

QT: That’s statutory rape, you know, he had sex with a, with a minor, all right? That’s not rape. To me, when you use the word rape …

HS: Right—

QT: … You’re talking about violent, throwing them down, it’s like one of the most violent crimes in the world. You can’t throw, you know, throwing the word rape around is like throwing the word racist around, all right? You know, it just doesn’t apply to everything that people use it for, all right? You know, he was, he’s guilty of having sex with a minor.

RQ: That she didn’t want to have.

QT: No! That was not the case at all. She wanted to have it, and dated …

RQ: Well, but the transcripts …

QT: … dated, dated the guy …

RQ: Dated. She’s 13!

QT: … and found out—well, yeah, by the way, we’re talking about America’s morals, we’re not talking about the morals in Europe and everything, all right?

HS: Wait a second. If you have sex with a 13-year-old girl, and you’re a grown man, you know that that’s wrong.

RQ: And you’re giving her booze and pills…

QT: Look. She was down with it.

HS: Ooooooh.

RQ: Oh, you’re crazy. You’re crazy.

QT: And she’s talked about it, she’s talked about it. Now, now that she’s an adult.

RQ: You are so crazy.

QT: I’m, I’m right. She’s talked about it since, about, “No, he didn’t really do anything to me, it was a technicality from being 13.”

HS: Would you ever seduce a 13-year-old with pills and booze?

QT: No, no, no, no. You can’t, you’re killing it with this “pills and booze” thing, all right?

HS: Why—but it’s true!

QT: No more than if she was eighteen or nineteen or twenty

HS: Oh, that is such—

RQ: There’s—yeah, please, let’s review this.

HS: All right, I’m gonna read the transcript.

QT: Wait a minute, no. The transcripts are like, now she’s trying to take care of her mom, who’s pissed off at her, so now she’s saying this, she’s saying that, now that she’s an adult—

RQ: What are you talking about? This was when it happened!

HS: Listen to this.

QT: I know, that’s what I’m saying, her mom is now on her, she has to say, “He did this, he did that.” Now that she’s an adult, she’s got a whole different story.

HS: [reading from transcript] “What did Mr. Polanski say?”
“He said, ‘Yeah, I’ll take you home soon.”
“What did you do?”
“I told him, I said that I wanted to get, I wanted to go home.”
“What did Mr. Polanski say?”
“He told me to go in the other room and lie down. I was going, ‘No, I better go home,’ because I was afraid. So I went and I sat down on the couch.”
“And were you afraid of him?”
“Him?”
See?

QT: And what was the answer?

HS: Then they just go, “Him?” I don’t, that was weird.

QT: It’s a very provocative question with no answer.

HS: “What happened when you sat down on the couch?”
“He sat down beside me and he asked if I was okay. I said, ‘No.’ You know, ‘Keep away.’”

QT: Okay.

HS: “And then what happened?”
“And then he went down and he started performing cuddliness.” Because she’s 13. “Cuddliness.”

QT: Okay, then, okay, now let me talk for a second here.

HS: She didn’t even know what the word “cunnilingus” was, she said “cuddliness.”

QT: Okay, now let me…

HS: Go ahead. Do you know Roman Polanski?

QT: Oh, I don’t—I’ve met him once, but he’s not a friend or anything like that.

HS: All right.

QT: Now, if you were going to really do equal time, you’d have his book, Roman by Polanski, and read his chapter about what he says happens, all right?

RQ: Well of course he’s going to say she was into it!

QT: And of course she’s going to say this because she knew she was in trouble with her mom!

RQ: So why do you side with him?

QT: Because his, I, his version sounds more likely.

RQ: Uhhhhhhhhhhhh.

QT: Sounds really, really more likely. She was not …

RQ: You know how he could have avoided all this? Not being with a 13-year-old.

HS: Go get a woman your own age.

QT: He likes girls!

RQ: He likes babies!

HS: But 13-year-olds?

??: This is the way I always put it in perspective with guns, too.

HS: I know what you’re going to say.

QT: What, I’m not doing it!

??: If you had a 13-year-old daughter, the most mature 13-year-old daughter in the world. She looks seventeen. And your 13-year-old daughter—you leave her alone with a guy who’s supposed to photograph her, who’s 25 or 30. And you find out that he had “cuddliness” with her. You’d freak, wouldn’t you?

QT: Yes.

HS: He had intercourse with her.

??: There’d be a bullet in Polanski’s head.

HS: Yeah, you’d kill him.
QT: Yes, yes, I would.

HS: You would kill him.

QT: I’d beat the hell out of him.

HS: Within an inch of his life.

QT: Yeah, I’d beat the hell out of him. But! But the situation was not that she was against all this. She was down to party with Roman. And they partied.

RQ: It is against the law. Let’s get right down to it, it is against the law.

HS: But you’re the adult. The adult is supposed to know better.

QT: OK, but. OK. But let’s talk about it the way it is. She was down with a party. He was down with a party, but she was—

RQ: She was 13, she doesn’t get to say she’s down with a party. She can’t sign a contract, she can’t rent an apartment, she can’t do anything. She has to get her parents’ permission for anything she wants to do.

QT: I know.

RQ: She cannot make the decision.

QT: But now we’re not talking about rape anymore, or we’re not talking about doing it against her will.

RQ: Absolutely we are!

HS: It’s rape. It’s rape.

QT: No we’re not!

HS: Yes! Yes!

RQ: Absolutely.

HS: Yes.

QT: Now you’re talking about, it’s just, it’s a minor situation …

HS: It is rape.

QT: … it’s a situation that she’s a minor.

HS: It’s rape. He should have done jail time.

QT: Is it against the law? You’re right.

HS: He should have done jail time.

QT: Well, in this book, though, do you know what happened?

HS: I will never let him come back into this country. I won’t. He’s not coming into the country.

QT: In his book, he talks about why he slipped.

HS: Why do you like him so much? Why do you think? Because he’s a director?

QT: I don’t like—I’ve read the book, so I actually …

HS: You’re a director, he’s a director, is that what’s going on here?

QT: I have a little bit of information on this, all right, as opposed to just popping off on this and that and the other.

HS: Yeah, any time a person’s 13, an adult has sex with them, I believe that’s rape.

QT: Look, okay, I don’t believe that’s rape, I believe it’s against the law, all right?

HS: I believe it’s rape.

QT: I don’t believe it’s rape. I mean, not at 13. Not for these 13-year-old party girls.

RQ: Oh my god.

HS: All right …

RQ: A “13-year-old party girl,” what is that?

HS: Let me ask you, all right, couldn’t he have had an eighteen-year-old party girl?

QT: When did you guys turn into Bill O’…

HS: Bill O’Reilly?

QT: Bill O’Reilly when I wasn’t looking, all right?

HS: But wait a second. I have a daughter who is 11. She is such a little girl. And even, I have a daughter, seventeen, who while she’s old enough certainly, you know, you still see that youthful innocence. You know, I’ve had three daughters. I know what it is to have a 13-year-old daughter. There is no way, emotionally, they’re equipped to run off with a 40-year-old Roman Polanski. And have him say, “Come on, baby, let’s drink, let’s take some pills,” you know what I’m saying? It’s up to Roman Polanski to go, “You know what? You’re really young. And you know what, maybe this is insane, I have an attraction for you, but you have to go home.”

QT: Yeah, look, okay, in this situation, I agree with you.

HS: Right.

QT: What I’ve had—the only thing I’m having a problem with …

HS: Go ahead.

QT: … is using super big buzzwords that don’t quite apply to the situation, when you say that word, to what you imagine.

HS: It is. It is. You’ve gotta get off the ecstasy and listen to me. Now tell me about ecstasy.

QT: What about it?

HS: Do you do it a lot?

QT: Oh, God, no, not at all, man, I was just—

HS: Not at all?

QT: No, I mean, do I do it a lot, no.

HS: How is it? Is it good?

QT: It’s kinda fun!

HS: It’s fun.

QT: It’s fun when I do it.

HS: Do you do it with Uma?

QT: No, no. I don’t do it that often.

HS: Because you could probably get her top off.

QT: I don’t really do it that often. But by the way, here, one thing. Now here, I won’t mind taking about it, because what you’re quoting is the Playboy interview. Right? I’ve been reading Playboy since I was 13, all right? Throw me in jail, all right?

RQ: Oh my God.

HS: It’s different for a boy…

QT: THROW MY MOM IN JAIL!

RQ: Nobody’s saying that. And actually, at 13 …

QT: Is it the same thing? No, but you can get there from there.

RQ: No no no, if you party at 13 with a 13-year-old, that’s one thing. I don’t think a 40-year-old should be partying with them.


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that could be a tarantino interview, or it could be your schizophrenic inner monologue. i'm not gonna risk reading it to find out #sorrynotsorry

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He’s always been a weirdo, but until he’s (Tarantino) convicted of rape or starts talking about loving young girls I’ll keep watching his films. I don’t really care about his feelings.


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