Lil Wayne vs. Kanye West

Rachel Hobozal · Post by **Rachel Hobozal** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:49 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:Kanye is a horrible rapper, Wayne is a pretty good one... so I don't understand why Wayne is getting trampled in this poll. If it's a gheyness factor, these two are clearly on the same playing field so I don't know why that would really make a difference. So in general... .

32 to 27 ain't necessarily getting trampled.

Funk Docta Bombay · Post by **Funk Docta Bombay** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:56 pm

Cleanhobo wrote:
B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:Kanye is a horrible rapper, Wayne is a pretty good one... so I don't understand why Wayne is getting trampled in this poll. If it's a gheyness factor, these two are clearly on the same playing field so I don't know why that would really make a difference. So in general... .
32 to 27 ain't necessarily getting trampled.

and I think Kanye is one of the only rappers out there who can compete with Wayne when it comes to gheyness.

staytribe. · Post by **staytribe.** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:40 am

BULLETS LIKE BIRDS YOU CAN HEAR THEM BITCHES HUMMING

come on. dude is SICK with the simile

GM Dizzy Skillespie · Post by **GM Dizzy Skillespie** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:01 am

n**** I don't spit
I vomit
got it?
one egg short of the omlette

EMCEE DARTH MALEK · Post by **EMCEE DARTH MALEK** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:19 am

wayne is a far better rapper. He's more creative, his flow is better, his punchlines are more amusing. Kanye is a dope producer obviously but I'm not counting that in.

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:53 am

weez gets my vote.. but i don't see how he's so much more "creative" than kanye

he's definitely perfected his style. i just dont see where it was 100% unique to begin with

ObeseJesus · Post by **ObeseJesus** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:22 pm

both are two of the few i'm checking for these days but gotta give it to Weezy as far as mic skills are concerned.

craig · Post by **craig** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:26 am

wayne. as far as lyricism goes, its no contest...at all.

i kno everyone has there own opinion but this is

to the extreme

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:37 am

"I Sun/Son you niggas, you're all Kevin Johnsons" - Lil Wayne

>>>>>>>>>>

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:58 am

Magneto wrote:"I Sun/Son you niggas, you're all Kevin Johnsons" - Lil Wayne

>>>>>>>>>>

The fact I know Wayne was not OLD enough to even know who Kevin Johnson was or even see him play kinda takes the

factor away.

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:51 am

Philaflava wrote:
Magneto wrote:"I Sun/Son you niggas, you're all Kevin Johnsons" - Lil Wayne

>>>>>>>>>>
The fact I know Wayne was not OLD enough to even know who Kevin Johnson was or even see him play kinda takes the factor away.

That's not quite true. I'm roughly the same age as Weezy, and I saw KJ go against my Blazers both in person and on tv many times as a youth. The funny shit is he comes into my building sometimes to talk to my organization's prez. KJ runs a charter school a couple blocks away and is trying to share a building with one of our charters.

kasmoney · Post by **kasmoney** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:00 am

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:23 am

Philaflava wrote:
Magneto wrote:"I Sun/Son you niggas, you're all Kevin Johnsons" - Lil Wayne

>>>>>>>>>>
The fact I know Wayne was not OLD enough to even know who Kevin Johnson was or even see him play kinda takes the factor away.

Lil Wayne is 27 years old, according to his police record. According to him, he's 25 or 24. I'm sure he knows who Kevin Johnson is and has seen him play.

Dids · Post by **Dids** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:30 am

Wayne has the benefit of being amusing when he's retarded, wheras Kanye is just boring. I think Kanye's top end is a LOT better, so he's the pick here.

People's love for Wayne is all about diminished expectations.

CaseJuan · Post by **CaseJuan** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:14 pm

Wayne and I'm shocked he's not leading this poll. Kanye's not even in his class.

Wayne's not the "best" rapper alive, but he's certainly the hottest rapper out right now (nh). Nobody else is coming close.

"Challenge me, that be to my advantage, I'm outstanding
Like standing outside up in a twister and walking not damaged/
Standing outside up in a blizzard and walking hot headed/
Serving nickel packs in Iraq, bet I will not panic/
Swerve the nickel black, if I wreck, bet I will not panic/
Cop another one the next day and drive it crazier"

axel foley · Post by **axel foley** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:37 pm

Magneto wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
Magneto wrote:"I Sun/Son you niggas, you're all Kevin Johnsons" - Lil Wayne

>>>>>>>>>>
The fact I know Wayne was not OLD enough to even know who Kevin Johnson was or even see him play kinda takes the factor away.
Lil Wayne is 27 years old, according to his police record. According to him, he's 25 or 24. I'm sure he knows who Kevin Johnson is and has seen him play.

i'm 24 and i remember kj. one of my favorite ball players of all time actually.

jazzmatazz23 · Post by **jazzmatazz23** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:12 am

CaseJuan wrote:Wayne and I'm shocked he's not leading this poll. Kanye's not even in his class.

Wayne's not the "best" rapper alive, but he's certainly the hottest rapper out right now (nh). Nobody else is coming close.

"Challenge me, that be to my advantage, I'm outstanding
Like standing outside up in a twister and walking not damaged/
Standing outside up in a blizzard and walking hot headed/
Serving nickel packs in Iraq, bet I will not panic/
Swerve the nickel black, if I wreck, bet I will not panic/
Cop another one the next day and drive it crazier"

^^^^^^ that is a good verse? Does anyone else think that is a good little verse right there?

jazzmatazz23 · Post by **jazzmatazz23** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:14 am

Dids wrote:
People's love for Wayne is all about diminished expectations.

Exactly if everyone said he is the dopest rapper and you copped his album you would be largely dissapointed.

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:06 am

I don't know anything about Lil Wayne but....

Magneto wrote:"I Sun/Son you niggas, you're all Kevin Johnsons" - Lil Wayne

I don't get it. And I do know who KJ is.

CaseJuan wrote:"Challenge me, that be to my advantage, I'm outstanding
Like standing outside up in a twister and walking not damaged/
Standing outside up in a blizzard and walking hot headed/
Serving nickel packs in Iraq, bet I will not panic/
Swerve the nickel black, if I wreck, bet I will not panic/
Cop another one the next day and drive it crazier"

This is very unimpressive.

Hmmm, maybe weezy is just not for me.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:47 am

Moolah wrote:I don't know anything about Lil Wayne but....

Magneto wrote:"I Sun/Son you niggas, you're all Kevin Johnsons" - Lil Wayne
I don't get it. And I do know who KJ is.

CaseJuan wrote:"Challenge me, that be to my advantage, I'm outstanding
Like standing outside up in a twister and walking not damaged/
Standing outside up in a blizzard and walking hot headed/
Serving nickel packs in Iraq, bet I will not panic/
Swerve the nickel black, if I wreck, bet I will not panic/
Cop another one the next day and drive it crazier"
This is very unimpressive.

Hmmm, maybe weezy is just not for me.

You know what it means when someone "sons" someone right?

You know who the Phoenix Suns is, correct?

And you realize Kevin Johnson played for them?

What's the problem...

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:04 am

Yes I know all of those things. The line still makes no sense to me. I realise he used the word sun and kevin johnson in the same sentence, is that the extent of the connection here? Is it really an insult to call someone kevin johnson? Dude was sick.

Wouldn't it make more sense to say like kevin johnson I sun niggas you're all hakeem olajowun*... or mark eaton??? I realise this is stupid reading into a line like this but for you to single it out as dope I though.**

*I realise hakeem is also sick, but he did get dunked the fuck on by kj, so the line would make sense.

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elohim · Post by **elohim** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:21 am

jazzmatazz23 wrote:^^^^^^ that is a good verse? Does anyone else think that is a good little verse right there?

i'd rather listen to weezy than the new jazzmatazz record, if that's what you was wonderin

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:24 am

Moolah wrote:Yes I know all of those things. The line still makes no sense to me. I realise he used the word sun and kevin johnson in the same sentence, is that the extent of the connection here? Is it really an insult to call someone kevin johnson? Dude was sick.

Wouldn't it make more sense to say like kevin johnson I sun niggas you're all hakeem olajowun*... or mark eaton??? I realise this is stupid reading into a line like this but for you to single it out as dope I though.**

*I realise hakeem is also sick, but he did get dunked the fuck on by kj, so the line would make sense.

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yeah but Kevin Johnson was a Sun (it doesn't mean he was wack, he was just a Sun), Mark Eaton & Hakeem Olajuwon were not... and although KJ dunked over them, the reference would sound really wack.

ANYWAY.

The point is you have a whole bunch of people voting for Kanye in this thread for two reasons A) They arbitrarily hate Lil' Wayne from the Hot Boyz days and have never grown up and realized that duke is actually one of the nicer emcees out right now B) They like Kanye's beats and pay no attention whatsoever to things like lyrics and delivery.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:48 am

Moolah wrote:Yes I know all of those things. The line still makes no sense to me. I realise he used the word sun and kevin johnson in the same sentence, is that the extent of the connection here? Is it really an insult to call someone kevin johnson? Dude was sick.

It's not the fact he's calling him Kevin Johnson, it's the fact that he's calling you his "Son/Sun"

You get it?

Dids · Post by **Dids** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:19 am

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
The point is you have a whole bunch of people voting for Kanye in this thread for two reasons A) They arbitrarily hate Lil' Wayne from the Hot Boyz days and have never grown up and realized that duke is actually one of the nicer emcees out right now B) They like Kanye's beats and pay no attention whatsoever to things like lyrics and delivery.

Or they think that Kayne's a pretty entertaining MC and that Wayne at best (plz see quoted lyrics above) just strings together slightly amusing one liners.

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:33 am

Dids wrote:
B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
The point is you have a whole bunch of people voting for Kanye in this thread for two reasons A) They arbitrarily hate Lil' Wayne from the Hot Boyz days and have never grown up and realized that duke is actually one of the nicer emcees out right now B) They like Kanye's beats and pay no attention whatsoever to things like lyrics and delivery.
Or they think that Kayne's a pretty entertaining MC and that Wayne at best (plz see quoted lyrics above) just strings together slightly amusing one liners.

That would fit under category B. Anybody who thinks Kanye is a pretty entertaining MC and Wayne just strings together slightly amusing one liners pays no attention to lyrics and delivery.

blastmaster · Post by **blastmaster** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:52 am

I can now tell you that Wayne sounds better over Kanye's beats than Kanye does.

Willie B · Post by **Willie B** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:00 pm

weezy has more forced similes and metaphors than the rawkus messageboard back in 96.
and this is why he has so much love on the internet. FINALLY someone in the mainstream who's "lyrically lyrical" but has "street cred".
sure his flow can be absolutely bonkers at times, but i still aint buying what he's selling.

craig · Post by **craig** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:05 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Dids wrote:
B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
The point is you have a whole bunch of people voting for Kanye in this thread for two reasons A) They arbitrarily hate Lil' Wayne from the Hot Boyz days and have never grown up and realized that duke is actually one of the nicer emcees out right now B) They like Kanye's beats and pay no attention whatsoever to things like lyrics and delivery.
Or they think that Kayne's a pretty entertaining MC and that Wayne at best (plz see quoted lyrics above) just strings together slightly amusing one liners.
That would fit under category B. Anybody who thinks Kanye is a pretty entertaining MC and Wayne just strings together slightly amusing one liners pays no attention to lyrics and delivery.

word. for all the people who voted for kanye, i have yet to see any of them post a kanye verse in this thread

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:35 pm

DudleyDawson wrote:weezy has more forced similes and metaphors than the rawkus messageboard back in 96.
and this is why he has so much love on the internet. FINALLY someone in the mainstream who's "lyrically lyrical" but has "street cred".
sure his flow can be absolutely bonkers at times, but i still aint buying what he's selling.