I'm glad MC Hammer played out that corn MC Serch

unbelievable dickhead · Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:34 pm

any revisionist "hammer was great" asshole should be forced to listen to his discography every day for a week.

"what, he made moar monee than you evar will" fuck off.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:06 pm

Philaflava wrote:
the brow wrote:
Philaflava wrote:At one point, Hammer was the most connected man in the rap game.
What do you mean by this exactly? I'm not debating it, just curious.
Pretty much what Thun said. He had the greatest cover-up because he was a darling pop sensation and yet he had the coldest killers on his payroll. Nobody talked shit about Hammer, especially about his "mama."

Not sure if the search function would work but I know I've posted about the stories Davey D and I shared regarding Hammer. The amount of money he made after the U Can't Touch This shit was in-fucking-sane.

He wasn't J. Prince or Master P, but yeah, he had connections.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:09 pm

In the 80's, early 90's Hammer was the one. Prince was the man in Texas, but Hammer had shit in several states.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:10 pm

Philaflava wrote:In the 80's, early 90's Hammer was the one. Prince was the man in Texas, but Hammer had shit in several states.

LOL oh no, J.Prince is far more connected than anyone in rap. By far. J.Prince makes Suge Knight in his prime look like Paul Barman. Prince is on a different level. Master P is probably only one somewhat comparable.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:10 pm

Davey D: Let me go back to some of the more recent things that people have found you to be in the headlines for. One of the most prominent things was your decision to go on to Death Row. Tell us about your experience there, what has happened with Death Row.. And are you still with Death Row?

MC Hammer: Well, #1 my decision to be a part of the Death Row family came about because Suge Knight and I have a relationship that goes back all the way back to about 1987-88....Suge called me asked me would I like to join the family...

You don't think they met up for tea and krimpets do you?

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:16 pm

Philaflava wrote:
Davey D: Let me go back to some of the more recent things that people have found you to be in the headlines for. One of the most prominent things was your decision to go on to Death Row. Tell us about your experience there, what has happened with Death Row.. And are you still with Death Row?

MC Hammer: Well, #1 my decision to be a part of the Death Row family came about because Suge Knight and I have a relationship that goes back all the way back to about 1987-88....Suge called me asked me would I like to join the family...
You don't think they met up for tea and krimpets do you?

I understand that, and Suge Knight is nobody in comparison to J. Prince. I don't think you're comprehending what I'm saying. It's J. Prince, and nobody else is close. That nigga damn near had Master P banned from 3 states after that Pimp C incident.

"Only thing I'm afraid of is God and J. Prince" - Scarface

J. Prince had Al Gore step in to stop a DEA investigation against him. AL GORE.

For the past two days I have attended Congressional hearings on the Drug Enforcement Agency's (DEA) Investigation of Rap-A-Lot Records. While the hearings were called by Republican members of the House Committee on Government in an effort to provide evidence or to imply through innuendo that Rep. Maxine Waters and even Vice-President Al Gore intervened to slow or end a DEA investigation of James Prince, the head of Rap-A-Lot records, some of the most striking information revealed in the hearings was the extent to which the federal government had placed federal informants in not just Rap-A-Lot Records but throughout Houston's 5th Ward section.

The federal government, with the help of the Houston Police Department, infiltrated Houston's Fifth ward in a manner that can only be classified as military in nature. For at least 8 years, the DEA and Houston Police Department worked aggressively to form an intelligence network that would result in the conviction of James Prince and the shutting down of Rap-A-Lot records. It was also revealed in the hearings that the DEA has over 300 DEA agents in Houston alone and when combined with the Houston Police Department task force currently has over 400 people working the city in the "War on Drugs" effort.

Depending upon whose testimony you rely upon the DEA investigation of Rap-A Lot records began in early 1992 and possibly 1988 when two large cocaine busts were made. The DEA claims that since that time 20 arrests were made in connection with the investigation, with convictions ranging from drug use and sales to murder.

Tweak Da Leak · Post by **Tweak Da Leak** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:25 pm

J Prince got shooters everywhere

Hammer had some bloods in LA on the payroll

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:29 pm

Tweak Da Leak wrote:J Prince got shooters everywhere

Hammer had some bloods in LA on the payroll

Niggas don't understand, J. Prince is damn near Made Man status.

Suge Knight, Baby, Jimmy Henchmen etc...are all little kids in comparison. J. Prince runs the whole damn south, nearly, and other places too.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:30 pm

Look, whoever has the biggest pimp hand doesn't matter to me. Can we at least admit Hammer was nobody to be fucked with? I think Chump Change got some Prince stories.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:34 pm

Philaflava wrote:Look, whoever has the biggest pimp hand doesn't matter to me. Can we at least admit Hammer was nobody to be fucked with? I think Chump Change got some Prince stories.

I know, it's not a big deal, just making making a point about J. Prince. Cause Suge always had the name recognition, but is a nobody in comparison, just to give people an understanding the level Prince is at.

Hammer, had so much paper, he definitely isn't someone to war with if your paper isn't right, that's for sure. And we can all agree, we wish Hammer gave the OK on MC Serch.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:41 pm

Yeah I knew Suge wasn't anything close to J Prince. But I don't know if i can co-sign this.

Magneto wrote: And we can all agree, we wish Hammer gave the OK on MC Serch.

Illmatic, bro!

And guys like Hustle Crowe would be pissed as hell cause that would mean no Non Phixion either.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:43 pm

Philaflava wrote:Yeah I knew Suge wasn't anything close to J Prince. But I don't know if i can co-sign this.

Magneto wrote: And we can all agree, we wish Hammer gave the OK on MC Serch.
Illmatic, bro!

And guys like Hustle Crowe would be pissed as hell cause that would mean no Non Phixion either.

Illmatic was happening with or without MC Serch. That kinda talent was gonna shine through. Plus, Large Professor did a lot of the leg work.

step one · Post by **step one** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:05 am

That nigga damn near had Master P banned from 3 states after that Pimp C incident.

what happened?

I want Magento to start a blog breaking down all these stories/events/urban myths etc

odium-LSC · Post by **odium-LSC** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:49 am

step one wrote:
That nigga damn near had Master P banned from 3 states after that Pimp C incident.
what happened?

I want Magento to start a blog breaking down all these stories/events/urban myths etc

co-signed. isn't it about time for another "magneto tells hella insider stories about rap/crime shit" threads? i'm pretty sure it is.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:08 pm

Grandslam Magazine: so from having that outlook on things, did you ever come face to face with either hammer or vanilla ice?

Serch: the closest i came to hammer was when he put the hit out on us.

GS: that really did happen then?

Serch: oh yeah, that really happened. גreally happenedג is like the biggest understatement, it was beyond really happened. that **** is like as real as breathing air! ok, hereגs the whole thingג¦so we diss hammer, and hammer wasnגt really pissed about גgas face,ג he was really pissed about גcactus,ג when pete said גthe cactus turned hammerגs mother out.ג he took it as a straight diss to his mom, and we werenגt dissing his mom. we were putting a play on words with גturn this mother outג and the cactus turned this mother out--we turned him out, weגre just hotter. ok, he took it as a diss to his mom. so we get on a plane at that time, and weגre on our way to LA, and iגm with my then girl, now wife, chantelle, and peteגs with his girl roxanne, and daddy rich is with his girl, and weגre just like גoh my god, weגre going to cali, this is amazing.ג so weגre on the plane, and i got this whole story obviously from later in life, but this is how it went downג¦louis burrell--hammerגs brother--calls rush and talks to carmen ashhurst watson, who was the president of def jam at the time. and he says to her גis 3rd bass really coming to LA?ג and carmen says גyeahג and louis says גgood THEYגRE DEAD!ג and hung up the phone.so they basically had to figure out who was involved in what, and where, and how.

GS: and youגre on the plane oblivious to all of this?

Serch: yep. so they basically got five hours to clear this up before we land. they put a $60,000 hit out with one of the biggest gangs in LA, for any member who got to us, and could prove it--a huge amount of money. they contact mike conception, who at the time was doing that record גweגre all in the same gangג, and hammer had gotten mikeגs help. so russell simmons manages to get a hold of mike and says גlisten, this canגt go down, how do we stop this?ג and he says גitגs too late now, we canגt stop itג and russell is like גno, no, iגll do anything.ג so, mike finally says גlisten, i want to go to the american music awards, and i want to sit next to michael jackson, and then we wonגt kill them, weגll just break their legs, but youגll still be able to film them on tv from the waist up.ג this was his reasoning! russell says גno, you canגt shoot them at all,ג and finally thatגs the deal that they made. so russell calls donnie inner and tommy motola and he explains the situation, and if you check the seating plan for the american music awards from 1990ג¦.michael jackson next to mike conception. we get off the plane and weגre like גthis is cali!ג weגre amped, and the second we get off the plane, the guy that wound up being our security for four years--uncle mel--grabs us and is like גget in the van!!!!ג and is pushing us together with about 5 other bodyguards. now weגre thinking that weגre the beatles, weגre like גyo, they must be stopping fans from ripping our clothes off, weגre out of control!ג when we get in the van, weגre noticing strange things, like the windows are plexi glass, thereגs no way to open the doors, thereגs no handles. weגre thinking that weגre HUGE! we get in the van and weגre told that we have a whole floor booked at the hyatt and that we canגt have any guests, and weגre like גwhoa!גג¦we still donגt get it.

we get to the hotel, and as we get to the hotelג¦at the hotel iגm confronted by rakim, and im like גoh my god, rakim word upג and heגs like גyo dogs, whyגd you diss me?ג and im like גWHAT?ג and he says גyou dissed me in your record גsteppin to the a.m.ג and im like גwhat are you talking about?ג and he said גyou knew that we were suing MCA and you said the line גyou just a sucker seeking a settlementג¦ג and i said גno dog, the line is גyouגre just a stuntג¦seeking a settlementג i was talking about hoes. dog, i would never diss you, youגre my favorite emcee of all time!ג all of a sudden, this car comes by, and these bangers start coming out of it, throwing up gang signs, and uncle mel grabs me and im like גdonגt drag me away from my fansג and heגs like גwhat, are you stupid?ג and then for the first time he explained the hit out on us. you know what? the whole LA thingג¦i didnגt get it. i didnגt realize how deep it was, and i didnגt get it. im like גthis is nonsense.ג then, all of a sudden, this skinny dude comes in there, jheri curl dripping, and skinny as a rail, scarred up, just pure tats and scars, and uncle mel goes גare you pookie?ג and asks for i.d. and believe me, at this point, guns are drawn on this kid. he shows i.d. that heגs pookie, and itגs cool. me and pete are like גyo, whatגs the deal?ג mel tells me that this kid is going to be our liaison and heגs going to stay with us. pookie was a high lieutenant in one of these gangs, like second in command, and he had to roll with us the WHOLE time we were in LA.

im now thinking that this is b.s., and just say that i want to go to the mall to take my girl shopping. mel says no, but pookie is cool as long as heגs with us. i go in the van for my first time to the beverly center, and im walking around like im the king of LA. im still saying that the whole thing is just some b.s. and pookie is like גoh, itגs b.s.? ok, do me a favor, and go stand over there and take that elevator, you go and meet some fans thenג iגm like **** it, alright. so i go, and thereגs a couple of girls like גoh my god, itגs mc serch.ג but then, all of a sudden, im looking left and right, and im seeing all these dudes, and im like גoh ok, dudes are coming over too, itגs all goodג next thing i know, they all got bandanas pulled over their faces, and then they start to pull out right there in the mall. then i hear this whistle, loud as hell, and i see pookie, and heגs throwing up crazy signs and shouting גITגS ALL GOOD, ITגS OVERג then the bandanas come off and the guns put down, and these same guys start talking like גyo, we really like your records homes. word upג but meג¦im literally shook white, and only then did it hit me that it was real. it was really REALLY real. so this definitely put a dampener on our trip to cali!

http://board.rapmusic.com/7317420-post13.html

machine · Post by **machine** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:08 am

step one wrote:
That nigga damn near had Master P banned from 3 states after that Pimp C incident.
what happened?

I want Magento to start a blog breaking down all these stories/events/urban myths etc

Yeah please elaborate on this one. He got tied up in Master P's hotel room?

Galvatron78 · Post by **Galvatron78** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:47 am

J. Prince even did a "friendly cease and desist" with 3-6 Mafia and Prophet Posse back in 98' when they were dissing Tela and after that record nothing else was said. J.Prince had bootleggers of any Rap-A-Lot album whacked immediately, shut down guns in the face......all of that. So yeah pretty much what you hear about J Prince is very true.

Galvatron78 · Post by **Galvatron78** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:52 am

ehhh.....nevermind..

pen · Post by **pen** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:44 am

oh and j. prince loves drake.

take that.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:10 am

step one wrote:
That nigga damn near had Master P banned from 3 states after that Pimp C incident.
what happened?

I want Magento to start a blog breaking down all these stories/events/urban myths etc

Pimp C said in a song about Master P not paying him.

Master P didn't take kindly to this, so he had Pimp C kidnapped, and tied up in a Hotel Room.

Of course, J Prince found out, Master P got scared shitless, and there was a "known" ban on Master P from certain areas for a while after that incident.

There are plenty of stories, though. Like how Big Mike burned down the Rap-A-Lot offices lol.

MVRemix: What really happened that night Master P had Pimp C beat up in that hotel room?

Bun B: It's kind of hard to say because I wasn't really there. Yeah, you'd probably have to ask Pimp C or Master P about that.

MVRemix: Do you know what it was over?

Bun B: [Nonchalantly] People don't get along all the time. That's the way the world works sometimes, everybody's not meant to get along. You know? Sometimes these things get bigger than... These things happen.

http://www.mvremix.com/urban/interviews/bunb-ugk.shtml

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:37 am

J. Prince runs this rap shit and niggas don't recognize that.....

J-Serious · Post by **J-Serious** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:33 pm

who cares! Get a real job.

senorhaha · Post by **senorhaha** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:34 pm

now i wana hear about how big mike burned down the offices haha
big mike is something serious

step one · Post by **step one** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:41 pm

remember that thread a while back about ways to end Charles Hamilton's career?
maybe we just start a rumour that he dissed J Prince (and Hammer).

why did Big Mike burn the place up and was there any come back?
was he tryin to 'Smoke em and choke em' ? (sorry)

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:04 pm

senorhaha wrote:now i wana hear about how big mike burned down the offices haha
big mike is something serious

He wasn't getting paid from RAPALOT, so he Molotov cocktailed one of the Rap A Lot studios lol. Big Mike started doing sherm and was out of it for a minute. But that nigga is a real G. He was what he rapped about.

boogie shoes · Post by **boogie shoes** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:50 pm

Magneto wrote:
Philaflava wrote:Yeah I knew Suge wasn't anything close to J Prince. But I don't know if i can co-sign this.

Magneto wrote: And we can all agree, we wish Hammer gave the OK on MC Serch.
Illmatic, bro!

And guys like Hustle Crowe would be pissed as hell cause that would mean no Non Phixion either.
Illmatic was happening with or without MC Serch. That kinda talent was gonna shine through. Plus, Large Professor did a lot of the leg work.

No kidding Search was lucky to apart of what Nas was doing not the other way around.

While we are talking about Rappers who live it like they talk it.How about Just Ice sticking up people on the London tube and showing up on Americas Most Wanted.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:39 pm

step one wrote:remember that thread a while back about ways to end Charles Hamilton's career?

The latest I heard about that fag is that he hasn't been on Twitter in 3 weeks,
his album never dropped, and he may possibly have been dropped from Interscope.

I don't wish bad shit on anybody, but that kid didn't deserve the attention he was getting.

Galvatron78 · Post by **Galvatron78** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:48 pm

Magneto wrote:
senorhaha wrote:now i wana hear about how big mike burned down the offices haha
big mike is something serious
He wasn't getting paid from RAPALOT, so he Molotov cocktailed one of the Rap A Lot studios lol. Big Mike started doing sherm and was out of it for a minute. But that nigga is a real G. He was what he rapped about.

and he's a third degree black belt also.....no joke.

LameAim · Post by **LameAim** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:15 pm

odium-LSC wrote:
step one wrote:
That nigga damn near had Master P banned from 3 states after that Pimp C incident.
what happened?

I want Magento to start a blog breaking down all these stories/events/urban myths etc
co-signed. isn't it about time for another "magneto tells hella insider stories about rap/crime shit" threads? i'm pretty sure it is.

co-sizzler. BTW that MC Serch story about the hit Hammer had out is still awesome.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:04 am

odium-LSC wrote:
step one wrote:
That nigga damn near had Master P banned from 3 states after that Pimp C incident.
what happened?

I want Magento to start a blog breaking down all these stories/events/urban myths etc
co-signed. isn't it about time for another "magneto tells hella insider stories about rap/crime shit" threads? i'm pretty sure it is.

You know what, on some real live shit - Magneto, you really should do
that. I mean, I'm an older head and I don't know nearly half the stories
you do on real rap beefs. You can make it an angle on Steadybloggin' or
something like that. Like once a week, break down a crazy rap related
beef story. That would be really ill and appreciated.

cause I's drunk..