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This is something you can't understandThe Afronaut wrote:Aight. Last go round. Cypress Hill didnt do this?myself wrote:this is what I was thinking. I interpreted the topic as rappers who changed to go pop and failed to capture that audience ( while often alienating their existing fanbase). I wasn't thinking of rappers/groups that actually succeeded and blewup for an album or 2 and later dropped off.
Are the same people that bump their first 3 albums bumping their last 3?
so well playedThe Afronaut wrote:peanut butter wrote:This is something you can't understand
PEACE
his single went platinum so he didnt fail at going pop..he might not have the consistently strong buzz he should but his switch of style has benefited him greatly.GhostDog wrote:Does Wiz count? I haven't even bothered with the new record as read it's absolute trash because of his attempt at pop, but his mixtapes have been dope.
A Kid wrote:his single went platinum so he didnt fail at going pop..he might not have the consistently strong buzz he should but his switch of style has benefited him greatly.GhostDog wrote:Does Wiz count? I haven't even bothered with the new record as read it's absolute trash because of his attempt at pop, but his mixtapes have been dope.
he lost a lot of underground fansPhilaflava wrote:He did?GrimeyHippy wrote:Tyler, and lost his underground support in the process
Nobody gives a shit about being "underground" in 2011. Why would this rarely viewed video cost him fans?GrimeyHippy wrote:he lost a lot of underground fansPhilaflava wrote:He did?GrimeyHippy wrote:Tyler, and lost his underground support in the process
not just by releasing a shitty album after a lot of hype but then these comments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RYgaRsCH8E
Thun wrote:Nobody gives a shit about being "underground" in 2011. Why would this rarely viewed video cost him fans?GrimeyHippy wrote:he lost a lot of underground fansPhilaflava wrote:He did?GrimeyHippy wrote:Tyler, and lost his underground support in the process
not just by releasing a shitty album after a lot of hype but then these comments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RYgaRsCH8E
Kid That's Lifeless wrote:Dude's first commercial release moved like 50k first week. Also, he has a few songs that I would consider in the running for track of the year, so his music definitely doesn't suck. People who care about underground fanbases are fucking losers.
GrimeyHippy wrote:Kid That's Lifeless wrote:Dude's first commercial release moved like 50k first week. Also, he has a few songs that I would consider in the running for track of the year, so his music definitely doesn't suck. People who care about underground fanbases are fucking losers.
I'm sure he does care about his fanbase, he's just a sarcastic faggot
He sold albums off hype and because the average rap fan is a retarded white girl, album is garbage
Yonkers is a good track, there's a couple more I remember liking, but a few good tracks isn't a good album, and it certainly isn't going pop. 50k? lol, he went aluminum. all in all album is garbage - unlistenableKid That's Lifeless wrote:GrimeyHippy wrote:Kid That's Lifeless wrote:Dude's first commercial release moved like 50k first week. Also, he has a few songs that I would consider in the running for track of the year, so his music definitely doesn't suck. People who care about underground fanbases are fucking losers.
I'm sure he does care about his fanbase, he's just a sarcastic faggot
He sold albums off hype and because the average rap fan is a retarded white girl, album is garbage
How many spins have you given it? Probably none. It isn't a classic or anywhere close, but if you're calling tracks like Yonkers, She, Tron Cat, Nightmare, Sandwitches garbage, you're an idiot.
Then why bring him up in this thread in the first place? Did he make a decision to completely flip his style to sell records? He made an album that is completely unplayable on pretty much every mass media format. That's not going pop/selling out/whatever, that's damn good marketing.GrimeyHippy wrote:Yonkers is a good track, there's a couple more I remember liking, but a few good tracks isn't a good album, and it certainly isn't going pop. 50k? lol, he went aluminum. all in all album is garbage - unlistenableKid That's Lifeless wrote:GrimeyHippy wrote:Kid That's Lifeless wrote:Dude's first commercial release moved like 50k first week. Also, he has a few songs that I would consider in the running for track of the year, so his music definitely doesn't suck. People who care about underground fanbases are fucking losers.
I'm sure he does care about his fanbase, he's just a sarcastic faggot
He sold albums off hype and because the average rap fan is a retarded white girl, album is garbage
How many spins have you given it? Probably none. It isn't a classic or anywhere close, but if you're calling tracks like Yonkers, She, Tron Cat, Nightmare, Sandwitches garbage, you're an idiot.
because there probably is a lot truth in what he said in that interview. He says I didn't get into this to be underground and all that shit, I hate that shitKid That's Lifeless wrote:Then why bring him up in this thread in the first place? Did he make a decision to completely flip his style to sell records? He made an album that is completely unplayable on pretty much every mass media format. That's not going pop/selling out/whatever, that's damn good marketing.GrimeyHippy wrote:Yonkers is a good track, there's a couple more I remember liking, but a few good tracks isn't a good album, and it certainly isn't going pop. 50k? lol, he went aluminum. all in all album is garbage - unlistenableKid That's Lifeless wrote:GrimeyHippy wrote:Kid That's Lifeless wrote:Dude's first commercial release moved like 50k first week. Also, he has a few songs that I would consider in the running for track of the year, so his music definitely doesn't suck. People who care about underground fanbases are fucking losers.
I'm sure he does care about his fanbase, he's just a sarcastic faggot
He sold albums off hype and because the average rap fan is a retarded white girl, album is garbage
How many spins have you given it? Probably none. It isn't a classic or anywhere close, but if you're calling tracks like Yonkers, She, Tron Cat, Nightmare, Sandwitches garbage, you're an idiot.
i took that as him meaning he wants to eat steak, not ramen noodlesGrimeyHippy wrote:because there probably is a lot truth in what he said in that interview. He says I didn't get into this to be underground and all that shit, I hate that shitKid That's Lifeless wrote:Then why bring him up in this thread in the first place? Did he make a decision to completely flip his style to sell records? He made an album that is completely unplayable on pretty much every mass media format. That's not going pop/selling out/whatever, that's damn good marketing.GrimeyHippy wrote:Yonkers is a good track, there's a couple more I remember liking, but a few good tracks isn't a good album, and it certainly isn't going pop. 50k? lol, he went aluminum. all in all album is garbage - unlistenableKid That's Lifeless wrote:GrimeyHippy wrote:
I'm sure he does care about his fanbase, he's just a sarcastic faggot
He sold albums off hype and because the average rap fan is a retarded white girl, album is garbage
How many spins have you given it? Probably none. It isn't a classic or anywhere close, but if you're calling tracks like Yonkers, She, Tron Cat, Nightmare, Sandwitches garbage, you're an idiot.
which means he wants to go pop
if you want to go pop and sell 50k and the the majority of people who hear your record wont buy it or wouldn't buy it again that's "flopping"
Are you retarded?GrimeyHippy wrote:Thun wrote:Nobody gives a shit about being "underground" in 2011. Why would this rarely viewed video cost him fans?GrimeyHippy wrote:he lost a lot of underground fansPhilaflava wrote:He did?GrimeyHippy wrote:Tyler, and lost his underground support in the process
not just by releasing a shitty album after a lot of hype but then these comments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RYgaRsCH8E
because all his interviews and music are on the same sarcastic faggot ass tip
he's a lame gimmick
I'm a hipster but I hate hipsters
I'm underground but I hate underground
yeah we get it dude, your mind works in mysterious ways that's too clever for the average person, your music still sucks
also the title of the thread is "artists that wanted to go pop but flopped", if you haven't noticed not many people are buying his album, so if he doesn't really like the underground I guess he's SOL for now
Thun wrote:Are you retarded?GrimeyHippy wrote:Thun wrote:Nobody gives a shit about being "underground" in 2011. Why would this rarely viewed video cost him fans?GrimeyHippy wrote:he lost a lot of underground fansPhilaflava wrote: He did?
not just by releasing a shitty album after a lot of hype but then these comments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RYgaRsCH8E
because all his interviews and music are on the same sarcastic faggot ass tip
he's a lame gimmick
I'm a hipster but I hate hipsters
I'm underground but I hate underground
yeah we get it dude, your mind works in mysterious ways that's too clever for the average person, your music still sucks
also the title of the thread is "artists that wanted to go pop but flopped", if you haven't noticed not many people are buying his album, so if he doesn't really like the underground I guess he's SOL for now
