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What's everybody using in here ?

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adobe audition.
shure ksm57.
mpc60.
emu 1212.
krk rokit5's (GREAT monitors for the price...seriously, y'all should cop.)
currently shitty behringer preamp/compressor...in 2 weeks, focusrite voicemaster pro, to be used as a multisource preamp/compressor and such.
electric guitar.
records.

on an unrelated subject, i think we need to start doing some production tip posts. i may drop one sometime today. peace y'all.
got more records than god.

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Hey, I've been using the Focusrite Compounder which come pretty cheap these days, but is subtle for the 2 track mixdown and also complements the AKG Solidtube for vocals, if not having the expensive mic pre-amp ( valve or not ). Actually it's doing very nice on a lot of things except drum, just not punchy enough, that's where I use a dbx 166Xl for.

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Post by citizen »

custom pc built with random stuff
audiophile usb
numark 1150 dd table
stanton smx 201 mixer
goldwave
reason 2.5
oxygen 8
panasonic stereo
sony mdrv300 headphones
ableton live

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MPC1000
JBL 1X Monitors
Alesis RS 150 Power Amp
Technic SL 1200
Korg Kaos Pad

Sound Forge 4.0
Fruityloops

Recordsssssssssssssssssssss

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Post by KaeoFLUX »

Nuendo 2
Sound Forge 7
Wave Lab 4
CD Architect 5
Ableton 3
Custom PC Dual 2.8 Gig Pent 4

Motu 2408 MKIII
Mackie d8b v5.0
Mackie HR824 Monitors
Avalon vt747sp
Shure KSM44
AKG c3000B
Alesis DEQ 30 rack eq
Tascam Dat

Tech 1200s
Vestax PMC17
Alesis Ion
Moog Source
Korg KP2 Kaoss Pad
Laptop
Gibson Guitars
Vintage Air Organ
Bass
Drum Kit
Lots of Vinyl

and shit

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Post by ayentee »

mpc 2000
vp 9000
vs 1880
audio technica 4050AT
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piece of shit computer
generic sound card
numark ttx1 turntable
numark dxm06 mixer
guitars
roland jx-305 synth that i never use
sound forge 6.0
fl studio 4

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Studio Hardware:
Event 20/20 Studio Monitors
CAD E-100 Condenser Microphone
Oktava 219 Condenser Microphone
Samason C01 Condenser Microphone
Behringer Shark DSP110 Microphone Pre-amp/Effects unit
Event EZ Bus Digital Mixer
Alesis QS 6.1 Expandable Synthesizer
Roland XP-50 Music Workstation
Yamaha DJX Sampling Keyboard
Yamaha Pacifica Electric Guitar
Yamaha C-40 Acoustic Guitar
Peavy Rage 158 Guitar Amp

Computer Hardware:
AMD Athlon XP 1600 Processor
ABIT KX7-333R Motherboard with RAID array
Creative 12x DVD Drive
Plextor 8/4/32x CDRW Drive
Khypermedia 48/24/48 CDRW Drive
Echo Gina24 Multi-track Soundcard
Soundblaster Platinum Soundcard w/ Live Drive
100MB Zip Drive

Computer Software:
Acid Pro 4.0
Cakewalk Sonar 3 Producer Edition
Cool Edit Pro 2.0
Cubase SX 2.0
FruityLoops 4
Sound Forge 5.0
Vegas Audio 2.0
Wavelab 3.0
Various DirectX Plugins
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Post by ayentee »

Remo the Great wrote:Studio Hardware:
Event 20/20 Studio Monitors
CAD E-100 Condenser Microphone
Oktava 219 Condenser Microphone
Samason C01 Condenser Microphone
Behringer Shark DSP110 Microphone Pre-amp/Effects unit
Event EZ Bus Digital Mixer
Alesis QS 6.1 Expandable Synthesizer
Roland XP-50 Music Workstation
Yamaha DJX Sampling Keyboard
Yamaha Pacifica Electric Guitar
Yamaha C-40 Acoustic Guitar
Peavy Rage 158 Guitar Amp

Computer Hardware:
AMD Athlon XP 1600 Processor
ABIT KX7-333R Motherboard with RAID array
Creative 12x DVD Drive
Plextor 8/4/32x CDRW Drive
Khypermedia 48/24/48 CDRW Drive
Echo Gina24 Multi-track Soundcard
Soundblaster Platinum Soundcard w/ Live Drive
100MB Zip Drive

Computer Software:
Acid Pro 4.0
Cakewalk Sonar 3 Producer Edition
Cool Edit Pro 2.0
Cubase SX 2.0
FruityLoops 4
Sound Forge 5.0
Vegas Audio 2.0
Wavelab 3.0
Various DirectX Plugins
hows acid workin for you?

im thinkin bout getting rid of my vp9000 and my mpc and just using acid
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Post by M:akai »

damn...most of y'all got more shit then i'll ever see, lol

mpc1k
pirated cooleditpro
stanton skII mixer
mediocre computer speakers
numark ttx deck
yamaha s90 synth
12 copies of peter frampton comes alive
and some other records

i haven't paid more then 250 for my records, and i got like 500-600 of em with only about half being crapulence

spring cleaning yard sale bargain bin or garbage bin shoppin

can i get an amen ?

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Post by Cryptic One »

Ensoniq ASR 10
61 Key Korg Triton Classic
Akai S950
Korg MS2000r
Ramsa DA7 digital 8 bus mixer
Blue Sky 2.1 monitor system w/ sub
Tech 12 & Vestax 06 pro
Mac g4
Digi 001 w/ PT LE
MOTU XpressXT
Shure KSM32
A couple of SM58's
Lexicon MPX500
Alesis Quadraverb
Korg Digital Delay
records, records, records & records

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Post by citizen »

didnt you used to have an mpc???

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ayentee wrote:
hows acid workin for you?

im thinkin bout getting rid of my vp9000 and my mpc and just using acid
I'd hold on to that VP 9000 it's a really dope machine... MPC, if it werks for you, i wouldnt necessarily change up my format.

Acid is great for me. I'ma a much more visual person when it comes to doing my music than even an MPC2kXL lets u be. I like seeing everything laid out on the screen and seeing exactly where and when its gonna hit. And the Chopper(tm) tool is phenomenal. I do shit in acid that I could never replicate on an MPC.

Actually, right now, Acid is the only thing I'm using to make beats. Right down to the drum loops (rocking breaks). Its for an all sample project I'm doing called dusted. which will hopefully drop around this time next year.
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Post by ayentee »

Remo the Great wrote:
ayentee wrote:
hows acid workin for you?

im thinkin bout getting rid of my vp9000 and my mpc and just using acid
I'd hold on to that VP 9000 it's a really dope machine... MPC, if it werks for you, i wouldnt necessarily change up my format.

Acid is great for me. I'ma a much more visual person when it comes to doing my music than even an MPC2kXL lets u be. I like seeing everything laid out on the screen and seeing exactly where and when its gonna hit. And the Chopper(tm) tool is phenomenal. I do shit in acid that I could never replicate on an MPC.

Actually, right now, Acid is the only thing I'm using to make beats. Right down to the drum loops (rocking breaks). Its for an all sample project I'm doing called dusted. which will hopefully drop around this time next year.
how does it handle atmospheric samples with not much in it, like just misty sounds or soft pads...does it transpose and stretch them well?

also, when youre chopping drums in acid.....do you have to start with a full loop and cut away at it? or can you grab open snares or horn stabs and use them effectively?
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Hardware

Akai MPC2000XL+8 out/ 32mb (2x)
Acces Virus B
Studio Electronics ATC-1( SEM, 303 )
Roland S750+RC100 remote controller
Roland JV1080+Techno & piano exp
Roland JV880 + Techno exp
Roland U110 + 8PCM
Roland Juno106
Roland TR505
Roland TR606
Novation Drumstation
Emu ESI2000+turbo
Emu ESI4000
Korg DW6000
Korg Polysix
ARP pro-DGX
Kawai 100F
Moog Prodigy (modded 2 desktop)
Yamaha DX100
Yamaha RY-10
Yamaha cs1x
Yamaha cs1x rack (DIY)
Yamaha Clavinova

Drums

Tama drumset: 22", 12", 13", 16",
Pearl Maple drumset: 20", 8", 10", 14",
Tama 14" 4.5" metal snare,
Mapex 14" 6.5" maple snare ,
Pearl 13" picolo snare ,
percussion stuff

FX

ADA delay
Digitech DSP 256
Digitech DHP-55
Drawmer Dual gate ds201
Lexicon MPX100 (x2)
Lexicon MPX200
Line 6 POD
Roland SRV-330
Roland SDE 1000

Compressors

DBX 166XL
Focusrite Compounder
LA 4x4
Symetrix comp

Recorders

Fostex D-160
Fostex D-90
Fostex D-16
Hammerfall digi 9652
Tascam DA-20
Sony es59

Consoles

Soundtracs 32/32/8/2 Project8
Yamah 01v
A&H mixwizard 16:2
Samick 820

A/D - D/A

MOTU 192 (2x)
Fostex VC8

Mic's

AKG (Solidtubes)
Neuman
Shoeps
Sennheiser
shure

other

Neutrik patchpay (4x)
Roland A-880 midi patcher
MOTU Unitor
Behringer Powerplay pro

Monitors

Genelec 1031a
Tannoy System 15 DMT II/OSC amp
B&W 602's / NAD amp

Cabinets

Fender Bassman 100 bass and guitar cabinet
Orange cabinet
Mesa Boogie cabinet
Vox AC30
Vox AC-1, but Im not shure. Quite a little amp.
Marshall JCM800
Marshall JCM900

Software

Logic 6 pro
Logic 4.2
Sounddiver
Recycle 2.0
FL 4.0c
Adaptec CDextract

PC's

G5 dual 2.5GHz/ 4Gb
Dell dimension P3 450mHz/ 256
Custom P2 350mHz/ 512

and herbs...

In the pipeline; additional Neutrik patchbays, sidstation with analog dual swoppable ladderfilters ( parallel/serial switching ) and some more DIY projects.

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Post by ayentee »

Formant wrote:Hardware

Akai MPC2000XL+8 out/ 32mb (2x)
Acces Virus B
Studio Electronics ATC-1( SEM, 303 )
Roland S750+RC100 remote controller
Roland JV1080+Techno & piano exp
Roland JV880 + Techno exp
Roland U110 + 8PCM
Roland Juno106
Roland TR505
Roland TR606
Novation Drumstation
Emu ESI2000+turbo
Emu ESI4000
Korg DW6000
Korg Polysix
ARP pro-DGX
Kawai 100F
Moog Prodigy (modded 2 desktop)
Yamaha DX100
Yamaha RY-10
Yamaha cs1x
Yamaha cs1x rack (DIY)
Yamaha Clavinova

Drums

Tama drumset: 22", 12", 13", 16",
Pearl Maple drumset: 20", 8", 10", 14",
Tama 14" 4.5" metal snare,
Mapex 14" 6.5" maple snare ,
Pearl 13" picolo snare ,
percussion stuff

FX

ADA delay
Digitech DSP 256
Digitech DHP-55
Drawmer Dual gate ds201
Lexicon MPX100 (x2)
Lexicon MPX200
Line 6 POD
Roland SRV-330
Roland SDE 1000

Compressors

DBX 166XL
Focusrite Compounder
LA 4x4
Symetrix comp

Recorders

Fostex D-160
Fostex D-90
Fostex D-16
Hammerfall digi 9652
Tascam DA-20
Sony es59

Consoles

Soundtracs 32/32/8/2 Project8
Yamah 01v
A&H mixwizard 16:2
Samick 820

A/D - D/A

MOTU 192 (2x)
Fostex VC8

Mic's

AKG (Solidtubes)
Neuman
Shoeps
Sennheiser
shure

other

Neutrik patchpay (4x)
Roland A-880 midi patcher
MOTU Unitor
Behringer Powerplay pro

Monitors

Genelec 1031a
Tannoy System 15 DMT II/OSC amp
B&W 602's / NAD amp

Cabinets

Fender Bassman 100 bass and guitar cabinet
Orange cabinet
Mesa Boogie cabinet
Vox AC30
Vox AC-1, but Im not shure. Quite a little amp.
Marshall JCM800
Marshall JCM900

Software

Logic 6 pro
Logic 4.2
Sounddiver
Recycle 2.0
FL 4.0c
Adaptec CDextract

PC's

G5 dual 2.5GHz/ 4Gb
Dell dimension P3 450mHz/ 256
Custom P2 350mHz/ 512

and herbs...

In the pipeline; additional Neutrik patchbays, sidstation with analog dual swoppable ladderfilters ( parallel/serial switching ) and some more DIY projects.
this is about 200 g's worth of gear...im assuming either you make loot as an engineer or you are renting this spot?
lyricist/beat-maker/gamer/hermit

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Post by Cryptic One »

citizen wrote:didnt you used to have an mpc???
not sure if you are asking me, but yes I used to have an MPC

bought one i think in 2000, sold it in 2002

why did i sell it? (i might catch flack for this)

I think the MPC2000 series is the most overated sampling workstation in the history of the hip hop world (at least the SP1200 has a sonic character). Specially when you use other samplers that have a ton more features, and more character. There was nothing on the MPC i couldnt do easily with my asr, but there were a billion things I could do with the ASR that I couldnt do with the MPC. I only bought it to get something new in my setup to change the way I work to take me in a new direction with the beats, but in the end I found that I work better & faster on other samplers. Not to mention I would always hit walls with the MPC, where I would know what I want to do with something, and it just wasnt possible.

Learning curve on the asr is higher, but i dont mind learning if I can do what I want to in the end. I dont discount people who use the MPC, because obviously its not the tool, but the user that makes a difference. But regardless, the MPC is a stripped down sampler missing a ton of features that I personally dont wish to live without. The sequencer is basically its only saving grace, and it still isnt all that different than the competition. People hail the MPC's swing, another feature I dont see a big deal about, because I create swing with my drums the old fashion way, playing them til i get it right, or playing them til I get it close, and edit each MIDI note or quantizing til I get it right. There is no swing or quantize feature that can effectivly replicate a human playing the drums.

So i sold the MPC and got the Triton, which has its flaws, but I prefer it BY FAR over the MPC as a sampling/sequencing workstation. Most people I tell all this assume i just prefer keys, and I do (they are more expressive, and playing chords on pads is just stupid)... but that is not why i prefer the asr and triton over the MPC... they are just better sampling engines with more useful features

alot of people love the MPC for its simplicity, which is fine... just not for me when I had been using an ASR for 6 years before I got an MPC.

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Post by Formant »

@Ayentee

I dunno if it's 200G's, not all has been bought new, there's a good part of the list being just vintage stuff which were relatively cheap and some stuff we got for free and some aint even on the list. I don't engineer because I'd rather spend the time making/mixing my own stuff, the studio itself is a collabo with 2 mates who are dedicated to engineering, recording, production ( & composing ) and managing bands, they runn the studio.

@ Cryptic one
I think the MPC2000 series is the most overated sampling workstation
It is, it's also the most underrated sequencer/workstations ever made but noobs always make the assumption it is a good sampler based on the fashionable status it has ( peeps better learn to read specs ). It's a mpc with a S2000 in it, and it works pretty good for a percussion biased workstation but it doesn't really compare to anything, I mean, a cheap ass ESI2000 will sound a lot better and then we're still talking budget samplers, seriously, the sequencer makes the mpc appealing. Dont be mistaken by this, if you're really looking for a everything-in-one-box solution then look into a MV8000 or MPC4K, or a Triton indeed.
So i sold the MPC and got the Triton, which has its flaws, but I prefer it BY FAR over the MPC as a sampling/sequencing workstation. Most people I tell all this assume i just prefer keys, and I do (they are more expressive, and playing chords on pads is just stupid)... but that is not why i prefer the asr and triton over the MPC... they are just better sampling engines with more useful features
You can hook up a keyboard and use it as a masterboard on the mpc, you dont have to play chords on the pads hehehe noob.

Dont blame the tools man, they do what they need to do.

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Post by Cryptic One »

Formant wrote: You can hook up a keyboard and use it as a masterboard on the mpc, you dont have to play chords on the pads hehehe noob.

Dont blame the tools man, they do what they need to do.
umm i know this believe me, ive been using midi for over a decade ever since i had an s-950, roland keyboard, a roland r-8 and an alesis mmt8

missed my point, no one is blaming the tools, just pointing out the overlooked flaws in the MPC... and no specs could ever tell you how something will work for you in practical use

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Post by ayentee »

what is a noob?
lyricist/beat-maker/gamer/hermit

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Post by Employee »

Formant wrote: if you're really looking for a everything-in-one-box solution then look into a MV8000 or MPC4K, or a Triton indeed.
There's nothing that these machines can do for you that a solid DAW wouldn't be able to do for much less out of pocket.

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Post by KaeoFLUX »

Formant wrote:Hardware

Roland Juno106

Korg Polysix

Moog Prodigy (modded 2 desktop)

Yamaha Clavinova

Genelec 1031a

Orange cabinet
Nice!

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Post by Formant »

It's an old clavinova and sounds horrible, not even GM worthy. It does make a great masterboard ( weighted keys ), hook up the mpc and record the scores, ez.

The moog I bought for a 35 bucks because the casing was missing and no power supply but with the scanned keyboard. So without a case I figured I could modify it to shape it like a blownup Virus. It's also getting a complete midifit so I can CC# most of the parameters like q, reso etc, actually, any knob and slider through midi. Im expanding it with more C/V gates and triggers.

The Juno is probably the best synth for any starter, cheap too and makes a great masterboard ( nice keys ).

The ones I like best rightnow are probably the Kawai F100 monophonic, some really sick and warm basses.

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Employee wrote:
Formant wrote: if you're really looking for a everything-in-one-box solution then look into a MV8000 or MPC4K, or a Triton indeed.
There's nothing that these machines can do for you that a solid DAW wouldn't be able to do for much less out of pocket.
Yes, for me it provides more intuitive control during pre-production and Im pretty good on logic but when talking drums or a bit of samplism then you should have more hands-on programming than a daw. I also cant really compare the two anyway, I use daw mainly for editing, recording or mixing audio and the bits of score writing but then Im talking using mouse and keyboard which dont make up for drumpads and keys. On the other hand, I dont own a MPC4k or MV8K so I can really judge but I can see the benefit of having them when taking only pre-production in mind. It's like make a beat on fruity or one of them machines, you get the same thing done but the mpc/mv will just give you more chances of creating that human feel breakbeat than you could program on a DAW, even with a MPD16.

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Post by M:akai »

granted, i haven't heard ^your^ jungle trip-hop or whatever it is you originally make...
but the hiphop i peeped isn't up to par with the exorbitant amount of equipment you have :?

if i had that kinda setup....

i wouldn't stop masterbating for a long time

:!:

pz

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Post by Formant »

True, most of the beats on the nymkillz page never got anywhere near finished except for a few which definitly got more attention. Pretty much tracks or loops I didnt bother finishing and wont, nothing to pose with really so I naturally dont bsp. Except for maybe 2 beats made with a bit of hardware, every beat in there was made and mixed " mastered " on P3/450/128 with a 16 bit soundcard and it's pretty much the best I can crank out of it. So yeah, it wont match the gearlist and not what you call up to industry spec but I dont limit myself by saying that I make beats with just a mpc or whatever, I use whatever I get my hands on just to keep it interesting.

Im definitly not a genre dedicated producer, I just like to produce whatever my gear enables me to and considering my preference for vintage gear it's logical to be electronica based, but so is/was hiphop. To me hiphop doesnt have to be all that primo or stoup, a little bit of industrial electronica flavor wont hurt and hopefully gives a somewhat progressive result.

I have to say that I wont be so eager to upload a finished beat, not affraid it would get ripped or getting bad comments but it's not my way of selling yourself and not the best way to protect your music. But if you want an idea of what comes out this setup you can check out some tracks in pre-production phase, that is if you can bare the commercial content of the tracks hehe, I think die hard hiphop fanatics will have problems digesting this material since there's no hiphoptrack on that page, so approach it objectively.

Then again, if want to know how each track used what gear or what kind of sequencing then just ask.

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Post by Employee »

Formant wrote:
Employee wrote:
Formant wrote: if you're really looking for a everything-in-one-box solution then look into a MV8000 or MPC4K, or a Triton indeed.
There's nothing that these machines can do for you that a solid DAW wouldn't be able to do for much less out of pocket.
Yes, for me it provides more intuitive control during pre-production and Im pretty good on logic but when talking drums or a bit of samplism then you should have more hands-on programming than a daw. I also cant really compare the two anyway, I use daw mainly for editing, recording or mixing audio and the bits of score writing but then Im talking using mouse and keyboard which dont make up for drumpads and keys. On the other hand, I dont own a MPC4k or MV8K so I can really judge but I can see the benefit of having them when taking only pre-production in mind. It's like make a beat on fruity or one of them machines, you get the same thing done but the mpc/mv will just give you more chances of creating that human feel breakbeat than you could program on a DAW, even with a MPD16.
A MIDI keyboard and an MPD-16 are more than ample to provide a beat with any "human feel" that you want.

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At my home setup "pre-production"
hardware : Mac G4 1.42, Motu 2408 MKIII, Motu Midi Express XT, Behringer powerplay headphone amp, ART TPS II pre, Furman Power conditioner, Event TR8 tuned reference monitors, Korg Karma, Fender P bass and Squir Strat, & various guitar pedals. About to add a hardware sampler of some kind.

Software: Motu Digital Performer 4, Spark, Audacity, Reason 2.5, Recycle 2.1

At the "commercial" studio.
Hardware: Custom PC, Mac G5, Motu 896, Tascam US-2400, Roland Fantom S, Roland MC-909, various guitars, Yamaha EMX5000-20 20-Channel Powered Mixer, Genelec Monitors, AKG Solid Tube Condenser Mic, R0DE K2 Variable-Pattern Tube Mic, Audio-Technica AT4033, ect.

Software: Nuendo, Pro Tools, Digital Performer4, Reason, Recycle, Bias Peak, ect ect.

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ayentee wrote: how does it handle atmospheric samples with not much in it, like just misty sounds or soft pads...does it transpose and stretch them well?

also, when youre chopping drums in acid.....do you have to start with a full loop and cut away at it? or can you grab open snares or horn stabs and use them effectively?
it's transposing and stretchin features work very well. At least for me. Atmospheric samples/pads? Umm... to be honest dont really use them much in acid. All that type of shit I've always added once I taken my samples and set em up in Sonar. And those were usually coming off my midi gear. So i really dont know. From my experience, I'd assume it handles those types of loops pretty well... I've used it on all different type of instrument loops and it does pretty good with all of em, but I do reccomend plain ol good and thorough sample editing in something like Cool Edit or soundforge before you plop shit down into acid. The less u have to have acid do, the smoother the playback will be, but it is a workhorse so u can use it like one. Just make sure you've got a really good processor with a large amount of memory if you're gonna transforming shit all over the place.

As for the drum question, you dont have to start with a loop, u can use single hits, but i will never in my life program a drum loop from scratch in acid. Never. Too tedious. Especially if you want to realistic swing on them. I' start wit breaks, and use different combinations of the hits in the breaks to get what i want.

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