2nd albums better than debut

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Thun wrote:
Combo7 wrote:
Thun wrote:If you bump Dare Iz A Darkside in it's entirety in 2011 you probably live a miserable life. Nobody above the age of 15 should find anything appealing about it.
...says one of Odd Future's most vocal supporters.
Actually, I'm one of Waka Flocka's most vocal supporters. My Odd Future support is limited to Earl and Tyler. And their albums have greater replay than all of Redman's discography. Not my fault, don't shoot the messenger.

Nicki Minaj is better than all of them, though.
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Blockhead wrote:Imani is unlistenable on Labcabin
Really? I thought that he killed it, for the most part.
I dunno. He's got some cringeworthy moments all over that shit. Maybe it's just me.

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Thun wrote:
Combo7 wrote:
Thun wrote:If you bump Dare Iz A Darkside in it's entirety in 2011 you probably live a miserable life. Nobody above the age of 15 should find anything appealing about it.
...says one of Odd Future's most vocal supporters.
Actually, I'm one of Waka Flocka's most vocal supporters. My Odd Future support is limited to Earl and Tyler. And their albums have greater replay than all of Redman's discography. Not my fault, don't shoot the messenger.

Nicki Minaj is better than all of them, though.
Earl doesn't even have an album.

Your opinion on Redman's discography notwithstanding, this is sheer hyperbole since we will have no idea of OFWGKTA replay value until hopefully...some point beyond now.

Nothing wrong with hyperbole though, do your thing.
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COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote: Earl doesn't even have an album.
am i missing a joke here
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drizzle wrote:
COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote: Earl doesn't even have an album.
am i missing a joke here
In the sense of a Long Playing record.


Yeah, I am old.
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hmmm an album of 10 tracks, i wonder if there has ever been one like that that nobody ever had a problem counting as a long player

i wonder if i'm forgetting one

probably a really really really obvious one that's also 10 tracks

is the sarcasm coming through thick enough here?
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drizzle wrote:hmmm an album of 10 tracks, i wonder if there has ever been one like that that nobody ever had a problem counting as a long player

i wonder if i'm forgetting one

probably a really really really obvious one that's also 10 tracks

is the sarcasm coming through thick enough here?
I have my issues with that "album" too but what I am talking about is running length and overall running time of album dedicated to actual music/songs.

Feel free to disagree but for me 25 minutes of total running time is not an album, especially if it contains numerous skits. I can understand a different perspective but how exactly is this a wild claim.

That other "album" is 40 minutes long.

I love the Earl record but when he drops a real album it will be his first, for me. I look at this record as an EP.
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we'll have to agree to disagree there because to me an album is more about what it does than how long it takes, and earl's accomplishes more in 25 mins than most do in an hour +
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drizzle wrote:we'll have to agree to disagree there because to me an album is more about what it does than how long it takes, and earl's accomplishes more in 25 mins than most do in an hour +
Taking that to it's logical extension, an album could be 5, 8, 10 minutes long.

That's fine, I just agree to disagree because at that point the term EP would lose all meaning, as would defnitions like song and album...at least for me.

We both appreciate Earl's record, clearly. I just do not think of it as an album and see no reason why I would need to see it that way, instead of as an EP. EP being a term that would seem tailor made to describe that particular record.
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COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:
Thun wrote:
Combo7 wrote:
Thun wrote:If you bump Dare Iz A Darkside in it's entirety in 2011 you probably live a miserable life. Nobody above the age of 15 should find anything appealing about it.
...says one of Odd Future's most vocal supporters.
Actually, I'm one of Waka Flocka's most vocal supporters. My Odd Future support is limited to Earl and Tyler. And their albums have greater replay than all of Redman's discography. Not my fault, don't shoot the messenger.

Nicki Minaj is better than all of them, though.
Earl doesn't even have an album.

Your opinion on Redman's discography notwithstanding, this is sheer hyperbole since we will have no idea of OFWGKTA replay value until hopefully...some point beyond now.

Nothing wrong with hyperbole though, do your thing.
What if I told you that Earl lived in Williamsburg and was considering doing a Long Player (no homo) with El-P?

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Thun wrote:
COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:
Thun wrote:
Combo7 wrote:
Thun wrote:If you bump Dare Iz A Darkside in it's entirety in 2011 you probably live a miserable life. Nobody above the age of 15 should find anything appealing about it.
...says one of Odd Future's most vocal supporters.
Actually, I'm one of Waka Flocka's most vocal supporters. My Odd Future support is limited to Earl and Tyler. And their albums have greater replay than all of Redman's discography. Not my fault, don't shoot the messenger.

Nicki Minaj is better than all of them, though.
Earl doesn't even have an album.

Your opinion on Redman's discography notwithstanding, this is sheer hyperbole since we will have no idea of OFWGKTA replay value until hopefully...some point beyond now.

Nothing wrong with hyperbole though, do your thing.
What if I told you that Earl lived in Williamsburg and was considering doing a Long Player (no homo) with El-P?
And then?
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COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:
Thun wrote:
COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:
Thun wrote:
Combo7 wrote: ...says one of Odd Future's most vocal supporters.
Actually, I'm one of Waka Flocka's most vocal supporters. My Odd Future support is limited to Earl and Tyler. And their albums have greater replay than all of Redman's discography. Not my fault, don't shoot the messenger.

Nicki Minaj is better than all of them, though.
Earl doesn't even have an album.

Your opinion on Redman's discography notwithstanding, this is sheer hyperbole since we will have no idea of OFWGKTA replay value until hopefully...some point beyond now.

Nothing wrong with hyperbole though, do your thing.
What if I told you that Earl lived in Williamsburg and was considering doing a Long Player (no homo) with El-P?
And then?
He'd be top 10 of all time?

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Thun wrote:
COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:
Thun wrote:
COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:
Thun wrote: Actually, I'm one of Waka Flocka's most vocal supporters. My Odd Future support is limited to Earl and Tyler. And their albums have greater replay than all of Redman's discography. Not my fault, don't shoot the messenger.

Nicki Minaj is better than all of them, though.
Earl doesn't even have an album.

Your opinion on Redman's discography notwithstanding, this is sheer hyperbole since we will have no idea of OFWGKTA replay value until hopefully...some point beyond now.

Nothing wrong with hyperbole though, do your thing.
What if I told you that Earl lived in Williamsburg and was considering doing a Long Player (no homo) with El-P?
And then?
He'd be top 10 of all time?
Maybe if you substitute Ratatat for EL-P, yeah, I can almost see it...
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LOL @ Labcabin being better than Bizarre Ride. Labcabin is dope, but it ain't near Bizarre Ride, not even close.

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Blockhead wrote:
Roy Johnson wrote:
Blockhead wrote:Imani is unlistenable on Labcabin
Really? I thought that he killed it, for the most part.
I dunno. He's got some cringeworthy moments all over that shit. Maybe it's just me.
His verse on "Splattitorium" is definitely cringeworthy. That track should have been an outtake, but they probably had their hearts set on including a follow-up to "Pack The Pipe".
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Thun wrote:. Same reason most Boot Camp Click shit sounds crappy in my old age.
:larry:

the mind tricks the body, the body thinks the mind's crazy...


how old are you?
BCC, particularly Enta Da Stage and Da Shinin' keep getting better and better.
to a point where I think that early beatminerz sound might be one of my all-time favorite eras in hip hop.

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GM Dizzy Skillespie wrote:
Thun wrote:. Same reason most Boot Camp Click shit sounds crappy in my old age.
:larry:

the mind tricks the body, the body thinks the mind's crazy...


how old are you?
BCC, particularly Enta Da Stage and Da Shinin' keep getting better and better.
to a point where I think that early beatminerz sound might be one of my all-time favorite eras in hip hop.
This.

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GM Dizzy Skillespie wrote:
Thun wrote:. Same reason most Boot Camp Click shit sounds crappy in my old age.
:larry:

the mind tricks the body, the body thinks the mind's crazy...


how old are you?
BCC, particularly Enta Da Stage and Da Shinin' keep getting better and better.
to a point where I think that early beatminerz sound might be one of my all-time favorite eras in hip hop.
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Cypress Hill- Black Sunday..and Typical Cats- Civil Service for my nerd pick.

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my world 2.0
masters of the universe
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sure it's already been said but- resurrection
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debut's better than follow up:

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I dunno....I think it's almost pretty even stevens at the end of the day, there's a lota debut's better than follow ups and vice versa.

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siLLy KiD wrote:creepin on ah come up
If you meant to say E. 1999 Eternal, then hell yes.

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siLLy KiD wrote:straight up sewaside
I could probably buy into this

EDIT: Thoughts on Runaway Slave vs Goodfellas?

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Doc_Holliday wrote:
siLLy KiD wrote:straight up sewaside
I could probably buy into this

EDIT: Thoughts on Runaway Slave vs Goodfellas?
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Doc_Holliday wrote: EDIT: Thoughts on Runaway Slave vs Goodfellas?
Runaway slave>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Blockhead wrote:
Doc_Holliday wrote: EDIT: Thoughts on Runaway Slave vs Goodfellas?
Runaway slave>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yeah, it's not even close.

Goodfellas is pretty great, though. At least, it's a dope album to play while driving at night and I'm pretty sure that's all they were aiming for. Runaway Slaves is their masterpiece, though, it's a hugely ambitious and ultimately very satisfying listen.

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RS easily. Production on Goodfellas is pretty outstanding though.

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Thun wrote:
Blockhead wrote:
Doc_Holliday wrote: EDIT: Thoughts on Runaway Slave vs Goodfellas?
Runaway slave>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yeah, it's not even close.

Goodfellas is pretty great, though. At least, it's a dope album to play while driving at night and I'm pretty sure that's all they were aiming for. Runaway Slaves is their masterpiece, though, it's a hugely ambitious and ultimately very satisfying listen.
This pretty much sums it up for me. It's amazing to me how dope both albums are, but for completely different reasons. Runaway Slave is easily better overall, but Goodfellas definitely captures that blunted, late-night, '95 vibe

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The Afronaut wrote:
siLLy KiD wrote:creepin on ah come up
If you meant to say E. 1999 Eternal, then hell yes.
i mean...yah I like e 1999 better....but that's technically their 3rd album, they put out that faces of death jawn first...

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Homer Simpson wrote:Cypress Hill- Black Sunday..and Typical Cats- Civil Service for my nerd pick.
Black Sunday<Cypress Hill
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Re: 2nd albums better than debut

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the fuck? naaaaaw. naw. naw. no.

the only one i can even see an argument for is pac only cuz the best songs on niggaz were better than the best songs on 2pacalypse, but still, as an album....

naw.

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