Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:21 am

Hayzoos wrote:But then again, I'm a 21 year old college kid.

Kid Cudi is dope.

EDIT: In fact, the only people I know that hate him are the miserable fucks on this site.

This really explains a lot.

Comedy Quaddafi · Post by **Comedy Quaddafi** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:24 am

RE: Kanye's new album. I like it a whole lot and it's already in heavy rotation with Devilz Rejectz 2. When you add the good GOOD Friday songs it amounts to 20 or so dope songs. That's worth being excited about IMO and who cares if he released some of the songs for free? I'm gonna download this album for free anyway. I don't know why anybody is downloading leaks to begin with, if this bothers you. It was apparent pretty early that some of these would be on the album.

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:35 am

It's hard to mess with the 10 best songs Kanye's put out or been featured on this year:

Start It Up
The Joy
Christian Dior Denim Flow
Devil in a New Dress
Power
Gorgeous
GOOD Friday (Big Sean-less edit)
All of the Lights
Blame Game
See Me Now

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:36 am

Has anyone put all of the good Friday songs into one file yet?

stype_ones · Post by **stype_ones** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:42 am

Thun wrote:Has anyone put all of the good Friday songs into one file yet?

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:04 pm

:Cue Thun:

One of my favorite things about some of Kanye's recent verses is when he does this thing where he raps like he's having an actual conversation with someone and uses the back and forth rhythms of his banter with an imaginary other to switch up his flow inside a verse, or to provide a respite from the flow that bookends the conversation. Maybe I don't listen to enough music, but there's not many rappers that I've heard do this, or maybe they do but they're not as adept at it.

Examples:

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"Now Marone (? someone's name that I can't make out) got Gidget, the other got Bridget
What's more tripped out dog is that they sisters
Nah, you aint listen, 'They black, they sistas'
They momma named them after white bitches"

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"She said, 'Hey 'Ye'
I said, 'Yes biiiiiitch'
'Damn I'm only asking you a question!'"

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:13 pm

Good point. He's been doing this obsessively for a while now, and it definitely adds an interesting dimension to his style.

I can think of rappers that build conversations into their raps but it's usually more announced, as if they are relating the details of a past conversation, not just breaking out into a soliloquy mid-song...

stype_ones · Post by **stype_ones** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:19 pm

G.O.O.D. Friday joints all zipped up.

http://www.mediafire.com/?n2ffddckn2kfiyf

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:24 pm

Word. There's a long history of people putting conversations into their rhymes, but not many people make them sound like actual, animated conversations as well as Kanye and not many people just drop them in mid-rhyme and use it as an occasion to switch up their flow.

He does it on this as well, to hilarious effect:

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"I ain't got it I'm coming after whoever who has it
I'm coming after...'Whoever! Who Has It?'
'You blowing up? That's good...fantastic.'"

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:43 pm

pradadon wrote:G.O.O.D. Friday joints all zipped up.

http://www.mediafire.com/?n2ffddckn2kfiyf

U DA MAN

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:44 pm

Iceman, you are incredible.

Captin Planit · Post by **Captin Planit** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:18 pm

I feel like this year has been a nice resurrection for Kanye the rapper.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:04 pm

just heard that Chain Heavy w/Talib Kweli and Consequence. Q-Tip on the beat. that shit should've been on the album.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:09 pm

cant stop playing dark fantasy. rza brought it.

WTF? how come premo is credited for "monster?"

Brougham33 · Post by **Brougham33** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:41 pm

Agreed, Dark Fantasy might be the album highlight.

I'm curious to see who beats him for Album of the Year at the Grammy's this time.

Captin Planit · Post by **Captin Planit** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:44 pm

Brougham33 wrote:I'm curious to see who beats him for Album of the Year at the Grammy's this time.

FlyLo, obv.

Stieflkater · Post by **Stieflkater** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:03 pm

Dope LP

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:32 pm

Interesting, if overdetermined take on Kanye's strange fascination with technology over the course of his career:

http://www.theawl.com/2010/11/understan ... ntasy-baby

Mindbender Futurama · Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:12 pm

Captin Planit wrote:I feel like this year has been a nice resurrection for Kanye the rapper.

it's nice to know that it's an actual rap/life comeback, not an overhyped letdown that only Kanye Stans believe is a comeback.

dude evolved into an interesting place.

and Jay-Z "started" the "conversational rap style", but Kanye's taking it funny places.

Kanye stay killin shit in da 10

EMCEE DARTH MALEK · Post by **EMCEE DARTH MALEK** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:14 pm

good looks pradadon. I have no idea why chain heavy isn't on the album, i like that beat better than any on the album except "dark fantasy".

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:28 pm

Remember when Kanye was carrying on about how this was going to be a "boom-bap" album?

GM Dizzy Skillespie · Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:36 pm

Thun wrote:Interesting, if overdetermined take on Kanye's strange fascination with technology over the course of his career:

http://www.theawl.com/2010/11/understan ... ntasy-baby

if kanye is giving this much thought to his career arc... I'm fucking bewildered by his genius.

but I do give props to this dude for tying it up in a nice, easily readable, intriguing little pacakge

GM Dizzy Skillespie · Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:46 pm

EMCEE DARTH MALEK wrote:I have no idea why chain heavy isn't on the album, i like that beat better than any on the album except "dark fantasy".

oh yeah?
well mr. executive producer... why don't you tell Kanye where "Chain Heavy" would fit best on the record?

also, please make a strong case to Mr. West as to why he his record, the latest magnum opus in his mind, needs a talib kweli verse.

mike eagle · Post by **mike eagle** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:00 am

album is pretty god damned good.

EMCEE DARTH MALEK · Post by **EMCEE DARTH MALEK** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:53 am

GM Dizzy Skillespie wrote:
EMCEE DARTH MALEK wrote:I have no idea why chain heavy isn't on the album, i like that beat better than any on the album except "dark fantasy".
oh yeah?
well mr. executive producer... why don't you tell Kanye where "Chain Heavy" would fit best on the record?

also, please make a strong case to Mr. West as to why he his record, the latest magnum opus in his mind, needs a talib kweli verse.

after monster
him n kweli are buds maybe you didnt know

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:45 am

I must have alien ear drums or something, cause the beat for "My Chain Heavy" sounds like ass to me and is nowhere near as dope as the beat on something like "All of the Lights," which sounds like you could stage a Space Shuttle launch to it.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:48 am

Icesickle wrote:I must have alien ear drums or something, cause the beat for "My Chain Heavy" sounds like ass to me and is nowhere near as dope as the beat on something like "All of the Lights," which sounds like you could stage a Space Shuttle launch to it.

Do you think maybe the approach of directly comparing a track like "Chain Heavy" to one that sounds like you could stage a Space Shuttle launch (on a planet ruled by sentient Hello Kitty? I guess?) to was a mistake?

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:53 am

LOL, but

.

There's nothing soft about that beat. Those drums are epic, bro.

Are we supposed to only compare beats with the same tempo now? They were done for the same artist; I don't see what the big deal is.

Comedy Quaddafi · Post by **Comedy Quaddafi** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:56 am

Hes never been better as a rapper IMO, whether his beats doesn't match up to earlier work is up for debate though, depending on what you like. What makes me happy about this, is that the tracks are so layered and evolving which makes the songs very durable - at least so far.

Comedy Quaddafi · Post by **Comedy Quaddafi** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:58 am

Also, am I bugging or did he sample the piano from Eyes Wide Shut on Runaway? Ice diggy?