Elzhi doing a remake of Illmatic called Elmatic

RAZAH CUTZ · Post by **RAZAH CUTZ** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:27 am

you can listen a to snippets of "The World Is Yours" and "the Genesis" here:
http://fromthebaseline.com/hip-hop-blog ... c#JOSC_TOP

El got this shit soundin' correct....he'll do this project justice.....

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:18 am

i heard a few clips and then decided this is gonna be dope as fuck. at first i was a bit hesitant.

Dap · Post by **Dap** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:46 am

Philaflava wrote:i heard a few clips and then decided this is gonna be dope as fuck. at first i was a bit hesitant.

multsanta · Post by **multsanta** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:03 am

multsanta · Post by **multsanta** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:05 am

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:06 am

How about instead of this, Elzhi just concentrates and makes a really good album of his own, since he is probably capable of it?

step one · Post by **step one** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:17 am

Thun wrote:How about instead of this, Elzhi just concentrates and makes a really good album of his own, since he is probably capable of it?

exactly. Im not feeling all these 'tributes' that are dropping right now, especially to artists that are still alive and recording. I dont need to hear a homage to Primo or Joell Ortiz covering Hip Hop standards. Its just karaoke by another name.
its a sign of a lack of ideas and a way to get attention by attaching your name to something thats already popular, and although Im sure it wont sound bad, its not going to stand up to repeated listening cos in 6 months you're going to reach for Illmatic over a tribute to Illmatic every time.

Req · Post by **Req** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:21 am

no point, already been done to perfection

samdoom · Post by **samdoom** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:35 am

I can understand why some would prefer a new Elzhi album that isn't a tribute, but this seems to be a win-win for all involved. This will help Elzhi from a marketing standpoint since it will put him on the radar of a lot of people that usually wouldn't know about him, and it will still be quality music considering the instrumentals that will be used and the MC that's rapping to them. Elzhi dropped two good albums last year so I think this is just something to keep his name out there. In any case, I'm hyped for this.

Elzhi>>>>>

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:35 am

more lols in thread than expected

PopsUK · Post by **PopsUK** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:38 am

Elzhi is one of the best things about hiphop in 2009. I don't see the problem with him putting out this mixtape before his next full album which he is working on. It's not like he's putting out a shitty mixtape every week like some of the prominent MCs of the last few years.

Combo7 · Post by **Combo7** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:40 am

samdoom wrote:Elzhi dropped two good albums last year

What did he have besides The Preface?

samdoom · Post by **samdoom** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:43 am

Combo7 wrote:
samdoom wrote:Elzhi dropped two good albums last year

What did he have besides The Preface?

Euro-Pass

kimani · Post by **kimani** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:17 pm

Thun wrote:How about instead of this, Elzhi just concentrates and makes a really good album of his own, since he is probably capable of it?

For the most part I agree with people saying Elzi is good and has put out good albums and this project will be good, etc. but I have a suspicion that after the release of this cover album we will see a decrease in quality from his original work. And regardless of whether or not that happens, I want to hear something great from him in his own words before I hear him cover some stuff that is already obviously great; this is the type of project you do when you're a little older and too lazy to write your own great lyrics but still wish to remain relevant.

GUCCI CONDOMS · Post by **GUCCI CONDOMS** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:37 pm

upon first hearing this I cringed, but then I really thought about it and realized if anyone could pull this off it would be elzhi...I'll be checkin for this

Mindbender Futurama · Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:44 pm

Req wrote:no point, already been done to perfection

I THINK I JUST THREW UP IN MY MOUTH A LITTLE BIT

what do I keep telling you guys?

why are people not able to make their own full albums?

LACK OF ARTISTIC VISION.

I mean, after hearing a few of Cam'ron's songs that have leaked, don't you feel the hype has died down a bit? We been waiting years for KFC to return from the drubbing 50 Cent gave him... and now, after allll this anticipation, we get something called... 'Crime Pays'?

hell, at least 'Pray 4 Reign' and 'Hustler's P.O.M.E.' had a SLIGHT attempt at some kind of conceptuality, as flimsy thin the thoughts were.

jesus christ. I gotta get back to work now. blogs and music.

(peace to Elzhi though, still. The last of a dying breed. This album will be ILL [no pun intended :cookiecookie: ])

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:54 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
Req wrote:no point, already been done to perfection

I THINK I JUST THREW UP IN MY MOUTH A LITTLE BIT

No doubt. Shit is disgusting. And Elzhi? Really?

GM Dizzy Skillespie · Post by **GM Dizzy Skillespie** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:41 pm

bad idea or good idea... this is sounding dope as fuck.
Elzhi is killing those verses.

still I would rather hear Elzhi maybe hook up with a talented producer who could possibly create some beats with an illmatic feel to them or some shit, something a little more creative than just kicking verses over Illmatic beats.

i'm just spouting off ideas, this will be dope, but if dude has serious talent, he should challenge himself a little more I guess.

J-Serious · Post by **J-Serious** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:54 pm

what the point?

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:08 pm

J-Serious wrote:what the point?

To jumpstart his career. Outside of a few message boards and the Fat Beats store Elzhi isn't even on the radar and to my knowledge he's been making music for close to a decade now.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:18 pm

Philaflava wrote:
J-Serious wrote:what the point?
To jumpstart his career. Outside of a few message boards and the Fat Beats store Elzhi isn't even on the radar and to my knowledge he's been making music for close to a decade now.

So the rationale behind the bland idea is a bland gimmick? Is this like the beginning of a wave of pre-mortem tribute albums?

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:22 pm

Employee wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
J-Serious wrote:what the point?
To jumpstart his career. Outside of a few message boards and the Fat Beats store Elzhi isn't even on the radar and to my knowledge he's been making music for close to a decade now.
So the rationale behind the bland idea is a bland gimmick? Is this like the beginning of a wave of pre-mortem tribute albums?

You're asking me the rationale behind this? Ask 9th Wonder, Dangermouse, Kno, Focus, most blog rappers or anyone who's ever done this since 2002. It ain't nothing new but to say it doesn't create a little buzz is ridiculous. Elzhi is one of the best rappers out now (IMO) and he's covering the greatest album of all-time. Contrived? Sure. Will it do more for him than say the last Slum Village album or his CD-R albums and Fat Beats release only debut? You know it!

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:29 pm

Philaflava wrote:
Employee wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
J-Serious wrote:what the point?
To jumpstart his career. Outside of a few message boards and the Fat Beats store Elzhi isn't even on the radar and to my knowledge he's been making music for close to a decade now.
So the rationale behind the bland idea is a bland gimmick? Is this like the beginning of a wave of pre-mortem tribute albums?
You're asking me the rationale behind this? Ask 9th Wonder, Dangermouse, Kno, Focus, most blog rappers or anyone who's ever done this since 2002. It ain't nothing new but to say it doesn't create a little buzz is ridiculous. Elzhi is one of the best rappers out now (IMO) and he's covering the greatest album of all-time. Contrived? Sure. Will it do more for him than say the last Slum Village album or his CD-R albums and Fat Beats release only debut? You know it!

agreed on many levels.

there have been a LOT more blasphemous ideas conceived in hip hop history. that Dame Dash re-imagining of Reasonable Doubt that had no :jayz: involvement , for starters...

Elzhi has been doing hip hop long enough that he knows how to not dishonor Gnozzear Jones's debut

GUCCI CONDOMS · Post by **GUCCI CONDOMS** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:57 pm

Philaflava wrote:
J-Serious wrote:what the point?
To jumpstart his career. Outside of a few message boards and the Fat Beats store Elzhi isn't even on the radar and to my knowledge he's been making music for close to a decade now.

but like he did a song with kanye west dude

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:59 pm

Race Car Bed Sleeping Rapist Virgin wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
J-Serious wrote:what the point?
To jumpstart his career. Outside of a few message boards and the Fat Beats store Elzhi isn't even on the radar and to my knowledge he's been making music for close to a decade now.

but like he did a song with kanye west dude

which one? i aint never hurd it.

Elzhi is one of those guys who is WAY too smart for his own good.

I know them when i see them

Req · Post by **Req** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:03 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
Race Car Bed Sleeping Rapist Virgin wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
J-Serious wrote:what the point?
To jumpstart his career. Outside of a few message boards and the Fat Beats store Elzhi isn't even on the radar and to my knowledge he's been making music for close to a decade now.

but like he did a song with kanye west dude
which one? i aint never hurd it.

lol, yes you have

GUCCI CONDOMS · Post by **GUCCI CONDOMS** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:42 pm

Req wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
Race Car Bed Sleeping Rapist Virgin wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
J-Serious wrote:what the point?
To jumpstart his career. Outside of a few message boards and the Fat Beats store Elzhi isn't even on the radar and to my knowledge he's been making music for close to a decade now.

but like he did a song with kanye west dude
which one? i aint never hurd it.
lol, yes you have

yea man u heard it shit was on 106 and park on a regular basis

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:44 pm

Req wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
Race Car Bed Sleeping Rapist Virgin wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
J-Serious wrote:what the point?
To jumpstart his career. Outside of a few message boards and the Fat Beats store Elzhi isn't even on the radar and to my knowledge he's been making music for close to a decade now.

but like he did a song with kanye west dude
which one? i aint never hurd it.
lol, yes you have

lol not a good sign if you can't even remember it

btw, i'm in the "bit hesitant at first" stage. i guess this thread will be revisited when the shit is actually completed/released

sneed · Post by **sneed** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:53 pm

this is stupid. Just make your own shit. All the work was basically already laid out for him, the beats, the rhyme style and flow. It's like a paint by numbers or the Gus Van Sant version of Psycho.

max prime · Post by **max prime** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:19 am

my theory is that while Elzhi is dope. but everyone one is jelous of illmatic beats. i know i am