What aspect of hip hop makes you the most ashamed?

ayentee · Post by **ayentee** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:59 pm

when da lench mob calls me a devil

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:09 pm

The fact that I still actively listen to it and buy CDs. The fact that I know who Kid Cudi or Bernard Dolan are. The fact that Pete Wentz would get serious rotation if he recorded a rap album. The fact that I am able to blog about anything Hip Hop related.

Money Gripp · Post by **Money Gripp** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:10 pm

^^^ I, too, am ashamed of my ongoing participation, however small and tangential, in a musical form that went from being one of the most interesting and progressive to one of the least interesting and regressive.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:11 pm

imagine how making it feels.
:shutter:

Money Gripp · Post by **Money Gripp** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:17 pm

Blockhead wrote:imagine how making it feels.
:shutter:

Do you ever start to make a song and then imagine some European wigger saying

"Fook youu, Dod, I em not going to serve compolsurry milli tary service. I em going to spend ze rest of my life immersing myself in the ennui and aesthetic of Amerrycan producer Blookhead!!!"

and then just go

?

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:20 pm

Money Gripp wrote:
Blockhead wrote:imagine how making it feels.
:shutter:
Do you ever start to make a song and then imagine some European wigger saying

"Fook youu, Dod, I em not going to serve compolsurry milli tary service. I em going to spend ze rest of my life immersing myself in the ennui and aesthetic of Amerrycan producer Blookhead!!!"

and then just go ?

not really but logging onto myspace and reading comments and messages makes me

on the regular.

The Aluminum Falcon · Post by **The Aluminum Falcon** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:21 pm

rappers don't try anymore, yet i continue to purchase albums.

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:34 pm

the general disrespect of women and "other" people makes me ashamed.

i'm glad that i ALMOST don't have to make excuses for myself when i say to someone who's like 50 years old "yeah, I'm into hip hop"

Money Gripp · Post by **Money Gripp** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:35 pm

The Aluminum Falcon wrote:rappers don't try anymore, yet i continue to purchase albums.

Okay, that's on you, buddy.

The last hip hop album I purchase was something Ghostface-related a couple years ago.

No one puts any effort in into their records anymore so my thinking is "why should I give you my money when I'm just gonna burn the best tracks and then toss the CD into oncoming traffic?"

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:36 pm

The people it attracts.

clark bent · Post by **clark bent** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:36 pm

that these cd's are still in my collection

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:41 pm

Philaflava wrote:The people it attracts.

THIS

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:34 pm

Philaflava wrote:The people it attracts.

i'd say this was hypocritical elitism of the worst sort if i didn't feel exactly the same way

Nathan Blaze · Post by **Nathan Blaze** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:37 pm

This thread.

Money Gripp · Post by **Money Gripp** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:49 pm

drizzle wrote:
Philaflava wrote:The people it attracts.
i'd say this was hypocritical elitism of the worst sort if i didn't feel exactly the same way

Pretty much.

And it's not elitism but I think in any music where authenticity is vital, there should be some sort of hierarchy/pecking order.

When people like senorhaha become the norm rather than the exception, you got a real fuckin' problem.

Reggie · Post by **Reggie** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:49 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:i'm glad that i ALMOST don't have to make excuses for myself when i say to someone who's like 50 years old "yeah, I'm into hip hop"

Thirty-two years old, everyone. These words were written by a thirty-two year old man.

ACTHEPD · Post by **ACTHEPD** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:50 pm

People who think that Supersonic was HipHop when they heard it ... people who think that biting/biters are HipHop ...

Reggie · Post by **Reggie** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:52 pm

ACTHEPD wrote:People who think that Supersonic was HipHop when they heard it ...

You mean the J.J. Fad song?

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:57 pm

Money Gripp wrote:
drizzle wrote:
Philaflava wrote:The people it attracts.
i'd say this was hypocritical elitism of the worst sort if i didn't feel exactly the same way
Pretty much.

And it's not elitism but I think in any music where authenticity is vital, there should be some sort of hierarchy/pecking order.

When people like senorhaha become the norm rather than the exception, you got a real fuckin' problem.

to clarify (and this is not a shot at mg or phila personally) i meant fans as much as the musicians themselves.

HomeSkillet · Post by **HomeSkillet** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:06 pm

thats pretty much it.

Money Gripp · Post by **Money Gripp** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:08 pm

drizzle wrote:
Money Gripp wrote:
drizzle wrote:
Philaflava wrote:The people it attracts.
i'd say this was hypocritical elitism of the worst sort if i didn't feel exactly the same way
Pretty much.

And it's not elitism but I think in any music where authenticity is vital, there should be some sort of hierarchy/pecking order.

When people like senorhaha become the norm rather than the exception, you got a real fuckin' problem.
to clarify (and this is not a shot at mg or phila personally) i meant fans as much as the musicians themselves.

My attitude differs depending on the person.

If some 17 year-old kid is listening to La Coka Nostra and asks me if I like rap, I won't be a condescending dick and I'll try to talk to him about the "good shit" without being arrogant.

But I have no patience for some 25 and up cockend who still doesn't get it and probably never will. Fuck 'em.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:08 pm

the people who complain about it but yet are still fans

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:12 pm

drizzle wrote:
Money Gripp wrote:
drizzle wrote:
Philaflava wrote:The people it attracts.
i'd say this was hypocritical elitism of the worst sort if i didn't feel exactly the same way
Pretty much.

And it's not elitism but I think in any music where authenticity is vital, there should be some sort of hierarchy/pecking order.

When people like senorhaha become the norm rather than the exception, you got a real fuckin' problem.
to clarify (and this is not a shot at mg or phila personally) i meant fans as much as the musicians themselves.

I'm talking more about the fans. For instance, I'd never marry my wife is she was some hip-hop head all into Dipset or Wu-Tang. I don't really have friends who know much about hip-hop and I kinda like it. Not that I want everybody to be like me, but the typical hip hop head is a real douche bag.

The best kind of hip-hop fans are the ones who you'd never be able to tell were even into hip-hop. They don't go out of their way to prep the role of tweak an affected voice.

I think this is why I was always drawn to the type of folks who liked De La or ATCQ than those who liked Wu-Tang or Snoop Dogg.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:14 pm

ardamus wrote:the people who complain about it but yet are still fans

That's dumb. Do you like every movie Al Pacino is in? Do you watch ever Spike Lee movie and have to like it? Art is suppose to be judged.

ACTHEPD · Post by **ACTHEPD** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:20 pm

suckers who say "i dont buy music, i make it" ... guarantees their music sux ...

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:22 pm

Philaflava wrote:
ardamus wrote:the people who complain about it but yet are still fans
That's dumb. Do you like every movie Al Pacino is in? Do you watch ever Spike Lee movie and have to like it? Art is suppose to be judged.

Let me re-phrase before you hit me with another one of those dickhead fence-sitting jokes, another "he's like everything phrase", or another one of your commentary on my comments. People who complain way too fuckin' much; to the point, you don't even know if they fuck with it. You'd think by the way some people complain about the shit, they'd give up and stop being fans. Thats all I'm sayin'.......

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:23 pm

ardamus wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
ardamus wrote:the people who complain about it but yet are still fans
That's dumb. Do you like every movie Al Pacino is in? Do you watch ever Spike Lee movie and have to like it? Art is suppose to be judged.
Let me re-phrase before you hit me with another one of those dickhead fence-sitting jokes or another one of your commentary on my comments. People who complain way too fuckin' much. You'd think by the way some people complain about the shit, they'd give up and stop being fans. Thats all I'm sayin'.......

Ok, got it. You're talking about Money Gripp. Don't mind him, he just hates everything in life.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:24 pm

Philaflava wrote:
ardamus wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
ardamus wrote:the people who complain about it but yet are still fans
That's dumb. Do you like every movie Al Pacino is in? Do you watch ever Spike Lee movie and have to like it? Art is suppose to be judged.
Let me re-phrase before you hit me with another one of those dickhead fence-sitting jokes or another one of your commentary on my comments. People who complain way too fuckin' much. You'd think by the way some people complain about the shit, they'd give up and stop being fans. Thats all I'm sayin'.......
Ok, got it. You're talking about Money Gripp. Don't mind him, he just hates everything in life.

cool.

Money Gripp · Post by **Money Gripp** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:28 pm

Philaflava wrote:
ardamus wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
ardamus wrote:the people who complain about it but yet are still fans
That's dumb. Do you like every movie Al Pacino is in? Do you watch ever Spike Lee movie and have to like it? Art is suppose to be judged.
Let me re-phrase before you hit me with another one of those dickhead fence-sitting jokes or another one of your commentary on my comments. People who complain way too fuckin' much. You'd think by the way some people complain about the shit, they'd give up and stop being fans. Thats all I'm sayin'.......
Ok, got it. You're talking about Money Gripp. Don't mind him, he just hates everything in life.

I have high standards for everything, yo!!!