vordul was slept on

Haitian Jack · Post by **Haitian Jack** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:21 pm

snowstorms got me breakin out the cold vein. vorudul wuz killin them on this album but all aneone talks about is vast an elp. on sum of these joints vordul is just blackin out forreal. then i put on mega graffiti and the album is hardbody. how did duke get so little props?

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:25 pm

i never understood it, his performance on vein dwarf's vast's. i think that vast made a bigger impact on first listen but that effect lessened with each new listen while vordul went the other way, you could miss it at first because vast's punchlines and shit but the more you listen the more you realize vordul did something really special.

Voss · Post by **Voss** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:27 pm

Agreed.
I like them both, but I have grown to prefer Vordul on that album, because like Alaska said, some of the shit he said and the way he phrased it pops out at you in time, whereas Vast just kinda busts his nut (pause?) with his lines and rolls over to go to sleep.
They both killed that album tho.

I always thought Vordul's solo work was underrated. Yung Havoks and Megagraphitti both get play from me, still.

Haitian Jack · Post by **Haitian Jack** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:37 pm

both those solos are tuff. never again is one of vorduls top 5 tracks to me and mega graffiti has the title track, ak47, opiom scripts, in the mirror, learn, stay conscious wit the old fast style he had. imani is bugged too

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:40 pm

yo alaska, can you confirm that large parts of vorduls verse's on "cold vein" were initially half written and half off the dome?
i remember hearing this and being

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also, i agree with pretty much every sentiment in this thread. Dude was crazy talented. if only he had a little more focus , he coulda been on of the illest.

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:44 pm

i know there was a lot of verses that went that route. I dont remember which ones and how much of what was what but after recording for years with vordul I know that was his steez. he used to have a lot of the verse done and then freestyle the rest.

Haitian Jack · Post by **Haitian Jack** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:48 pm

ALASKA wrote:i know there was a lot of verses that went that route. I dont remember which ones and how much of what was what but after recording for years with vordul I know that was his steez. he used to have a lot of the verse done and then freestyle the rest.

thats wild but u can hear it on shit like when he is just like yo i dont got an endpiece.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:48 pm

ALASKA wrote:i know there was a lot of verses that went that route. I dont remember which ones and how much of what was what but after recording for years with vordul I know that was his steez. he used to have a lot of the verse done and then freestyle the rest.

word. i thought so. particularly on "ox out the cage".

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:53 pm

vermillion · Post by **vermillion** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:53 pm

Agreed. There are plenty of tracks on The Cold Vein where Vordul spits better than Vast, but both were great. I think Vordul has much better solo albums than Vast as well. I don't think Vordul was any better or any worse than Vast on The Cold Vein, but he didn't get much credit..

AWAE · Post by **AWAE** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:26 pm

vorduls flow>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

battlecatmeowstab212 · Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:33 pm

I think Vordul's solo stuff is better because he never got as bad as Vast's worst moments.

As for Cold Vein, I think (particularly with the mixing of the vocals) the whole hiding his greatness was intentional. With Vast you have such a distinct, powerful voice that just cuts through the production perfectly, but Vordul's softer presence and great performance really gave the album its replay value.

Vlad Analogue · Post by **Vlad Analogue** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:36 pm

yah, vordul was the truth. I'm wondering if Kev Beecham has tape of the night Can Ox came through WNUR (I think Breeze Evahflowin' was making yet another appearance). I distinctly remember Vordul MURDERING his frees. He seriously blacked out. I will donate money to a Hatian charity for said audio.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:47 pm

Vlad Analogue wrote:yah, vordul was the truth. I'm wondering if Kev Beecham has tape of the night Can Ox came through WNUR (I think Breeze Evahflowin' was making yet another appearance). I distinctly remember Vordul MURDERING his frees. He seriously blacked out. I will donate money to a Hatian charity for said audio.

i bet you he has it. go ask in the TROY forum. he drops jewels like that over there pretty regularly.

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:54 pm

Was listening to Cold Vein yesterday and thought the same thing. Also was thinking about which albums from the nerd rap era have held up over time. Cold Vein definitely has.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:32 pm

Vordul MURDERS "B-Boy Alpha." Believe it.

Lid · Post by **Lid** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:49 pm

Vordul is one of my favorite MC's/ and he most def bodies Cold Vein, his jawns on b-boy alpha, metal gear, pigeons and scream phoenix are crazy

Haitian Jack · Post by **Haitian Jack** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:44 pm

and nobody even said camoflage which is dope too. threds like this make it even funnyer that he still is talked about like a third wheel and his albums dont sell half of vasts. i liked vasts last album tho and i think both of they last albums are the best they put out since cv

Dusty Fingers · Post by **Dusty Fingers** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:56 pm

im honest to a fault and its my fault im that honest

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:57 pm

Dusty Fingers wrote:im honest to a fault and its my fault im that honest

Hair of the Dog · Post by **Hair of the Dog** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:00 pm

i think the two complemented each other very well. Never really got into any of the solo albums, but most likely due to a lack of effort. Vordul has talent for sure. Vast minus Vordul (or El-P beats) is god awful though....

Haitian Jack · Post by **Haitian Jack** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:00 pm

wats the best ox song since cv? ak47? in tha mirror? life's ill pt2? cosmos? adamantium? they still sound good together i know that

vermillion · Post by **vermillion** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:05 pm

He also murders these tracks that weren't on The Cold Vein. He snaps on Metal Gear..

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vermillion · Post by **vermillion** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:09 pm

Haitian Jack wrote:wats the best ox song since cv? ak47? in tha mirror? life's ill pt2? cosmos? adamantium? they still sound good together i know that

Can you post links to those tracks, besides AK47.

Haitian Jack · Post by **Haitian Jack** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:09 pm

vermillion wrote:He also murders these tracks that weren't on The Cold Vein. He snaps on Metal Gear..

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planet of the eat is the rite answer thanks. so now that jux is over is el gunna let us here the whole song?

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:11 pm

jesus...he kills metal gear. I forgot about that verse.

aeokq · Post by **aeokq** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:14 pm

I've always wondered about that 'Revolution of Yung Havoks' album. I remember I was at Tower Records several years ago when it was closing down and had seven bucks in my pocket and was gonna get that but went with Supastition- Chain Letters instead. I'll have to cop that soon. I thought 'Megagraphitti' was cool, but could've been much better. That first track "Stay Conscious" is damn dope.

I think what battlecatmeow said about the difference in Vast's and Vordul's voices is very true. Vast has a distinct voice and loud delivery, whereas Vordul is more refined and mellow. He almost sounds more contemplative. The lyrics on 'The Cold Vein' are really on another level, as are the beats of course. Classic and one of the best albums of the decade.

truthaddict · Post by **truthaddict** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:17 pm

When I first heard Cold Vein, Vast's voice stood out way more, but once they started putting out solo albums, Vordul's have way more replay value. The Revolution Of Yung Havoks has bangers front to back.

PopeyeJones · Post by **PopeyeJones** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:19 pm

truthaddict wrote:When I first heard Cold Vein, Vast's voice stood out way more, but once they started putting out solo albums, Vordul's have way more replay value. The Revolution Of Yung Havoks has bangers front to back.

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panty_inspector · Post by **panty_inspector** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:27 pm

vordul was one of the best during that whole time...super underrated spitter as well as wind who was super sick

but its cool because now ny got bekay, the brown bag allstars and folk&stress